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Anyone want to hear a summary of the Aerospace talks I attended today? Here are the topics, I can give a condensed version any one of interest. Optical detection of turbulent boundary layer superstructures Particle Erosion on Hypersonic Vehicles Conceptual Analysis of Anti-Drone Drone High-Lift Device for Short Take-Off on a Drone Non-equilibrium Radiation Calculation for Earth Re-Entry New Mathematically Consistent Turbulence Modeling Formalism
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Beer4TheBeerGod posted:Free flight, not rails. This is hilarious, so much of the sperg defense was based upon the space combat being On-Rails.
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ManofManyAliases posted:What do you mean come from? 115 million raised from crowdfunding. Likely a similar (ok - let's say even half that) amount of private investment; any number of grants for small businesses (hence some of the smaller entities still in existence) and tax incentives in different states and countries. Do you think the money coming in is spent immediately? Ok - there are four studios and the bulk of the employees are located in Europe. Even guessing (LOL no access to financials!) that the monthly burn rate is approx 3 mil/mo and speculating that this was the case for the past 18 months ( I say 18 because the ramp up to 300 employees occurred during this time), that's $54 million. Given my other variables, they then should have (or utilized) up to $150mil more. I'm confident that they're doing fine for the time being. Others have already tackled the (un)likelihood of CR ever getting $50 million from private investors, so I'll just talk about the tax incentives bit as it relates to the crowd-funded portion (and any grants... yes, these are considered taxable earnings too). You are being somewhat naive in the way you describe tax incentives and how they help CIG. Don't get me wrong, they do help (see Ubisoft Montreal), but tax incentives do not supplement the $115 million, only allow CIG to use more of it. It means that, of the potloads of money they have received which *must* be declared as income (since they aren't a religion... yet), they get to claim reliefs or deductions against taxes otherwise owed. It means that CIG get to claim relief against specific expenses (e.g. R&D) to reduce their reported gross earnings, or claim credits against the tax owing on their gross earnings to reduce their overall tax bill. It is NOT a form of income. In fact, if it isn't spent (on deductible expenses!) immediately that's possibly even worse... because now it is straight profit way in excess of deductible expenses, which means a proportionally greater tax bill for the year in which it is received. Most calculations I have seen made by goons don't even try to take into account the taxes that CIG is (presumably) reporting and remitting to IRS, HMRC and BZSt each year. The number of corporations around the world that CIG has maintained are quite evidently a series of shells placed to keep the various tax agencies from taking a big chunk out of their core funds, but that money is still a liability against whatever they have earned each year and as the saying goes, the only certainties in life are death and taxes. It will be found eventually, and there will be a chunk taken from it. So they don't have $115 million from backers. Depending on how creative their accounting is, they likely owe a moderate-to-significant portion of that to various tax offices around the world. Going by the latest accounts reported in the UK, they've not even started paying the taxes they owe there yet for a period in which development ramped up, so likely we haven't seen the splash that will cause yet. As someone who once co-ran a *small* UK business (three people), these amounts can be surprisingly painful... sanctimoniousqfd fucked around with this message at 00:43 on Jun 15, 2016 |
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Jun 15, 2016 00:25
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Beer4TheBeerGod posted:Free flight, not rails. Why would you trust the lying liars at a big publisher? What have they done to earn your trust?
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Jun 15, 2016 00:25
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trucutru posted:Why would you trust the lying liars at a big publisher? What have they done to earn your trust? Make actual games that you can play right now for 60$ or less, for one.
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Jun 15, 2016 00:29
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Sankis posted:i want that AMD letter to be real and to get leaked more than i want to continue breathing Could you hold your breath for one of Chris' 1000 page rants?
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Jun 15, 2016 00:32
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illectro posted:Sure, I suspect there are people who feel that getting a $250 spaceship from CIG is in the same level as getting $250 in cash. The value perception of Internet spaceships is very much in the eye of the beholder. Love your channel. Long time subscriber! That out of the way, it's logical to assume that CIG isn't going to be trying to break into the video market yet because they have nothing to actually show that's worth two cents. They do, however, have the concept of a game that has everything for sale. The only way to sell that is through words and a few doctored pictures, not videos of people trying to play it (Major Tom has that covered!) So even though you haven't been approached yet, it's more likely because your type of market (actual gameplay) is so far outside of their current scope there is literally no use in even really breaching the topic.
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Jun 15, 2016 00:32
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Sperglord posted:Anyone want to hear a summary of the Aerospace talks I attended today? Here are the topics, I can give a condensed version any one of interest. That one.
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Jun 15, 2016 00:38
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trucutru posted:Why would you trust the lying liars at a big publisher? What have they done to earn your trust? More than Chris Roberts ever has.
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Jun 15, 2016 00:39
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Sperglord posted:That's a more charitable view of CIG than I'd give them. I think the story sounds authentic and, if true went like this.
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Jun 15, 2016 00:40
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ManofManyAliases posted:Have fun with that. I've got a meeting to attend soon anyway. Ive got 99 problems but a death march aint one. My goondolences.
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Jun 15, 2016 00:46
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Beer4TheBeerGod posted:More than Chris Roberts ever has. But... big publishers!
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Jun 15, 2016 00:46
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Its hilarious than in the time cig announced their partnership with madcatz both thrustmaster and saitek have advertised new, more functional hotas than saiteks aborted cig concept .
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Jun 15, 2016 00:48
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Sperglord posted:Anyone want to hear a summary of the Aerospace talks I attended today? Here are the topics, I can give a condensed version any one of interest. Hello friend there are several threads I read that would be very interested in effort posts from you.
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Jun 15, 2016 00:48
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TTerrible posted:Hello friend there are several threads I read that would be very interested in effort posts from you. Which ones? I can effort post elsewhere too. Though, I won't talk about what I'm actually working on. Particle Erosion on Hypersonic Vehicles Beer4TheBeerGod posted:That one. Ooph, you had to pick the talk by a Chinese author, whose English was lacking... But it is an interesting topic, so I will look up the conference paper and summarize. I'll come back in a few minutes to with a write-up. Also, look forward to an Effort Post later on about the space combat in SQ42 versus Infinite Warfare.
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Jun 15, 2016 00:57
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Sperglord posted:Anyone want to hear a summary of the Aerospace talks I attended today? Here are the topics, I can give a condensed version any one of interest. Quantum Analysis to Determine Caloric Intake For Director of Ships This gets my vote.
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Jun 15, 2016 00:57
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So ideate posted this on discord.. It looks like CIG made it to E3 afterall.. https://twitter.com/SandiGardiner/status/742853960927563776
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Jun 15, 2016 00:59
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Inkel posted:So ideate posted this on discord.. But...why? That's bad form to show up to a venue you bailed on.
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Jun 15, 2016 01:02
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Meridian posted:But...why? That's bad form to show up to a venue you bailed on. Everything CIG does is bad form.
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Jun 15, 2016 01:04
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Colostomy Bag posted:Quantum Analysis to Determine Caloric Intake For Director of Ships I think in this case, we can safely say we're at least operating in the classical limit. However, the question is if the value is approaching a general relativistic limit. Do we have to consider space-time curvature in calculating the mass of food? Possibly, I leave it to others to continue this investigation. Perhaps MoMA can walk down the hallway and weigh the Director of Spaceship's food.
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Jun 15, 2016 01:04
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So they didn't go, but went anyway. Makes sense.
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Jun 15, 2016 01:04
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Sperglord posted:Which ones? I can effort post elsewhere too. Though, I won't talk about what I'm actually working on. Aeronautical Insanity: The last time I took a poo poo at Mach 0.8, I got locked out AIRPOWER/Cold War Thread: There is a Bear in the Woods These are pro-click threads for aviation/military history nerds.
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Jun 15, 2016 01:04
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Optimal Mixing of a Hairy Roberts Under Extreme Negative-G Conditions
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Jun 15, 2016 01:05
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Meridian posted:But...why? That's bad form to show up to a venue you bailed on. That is ridiculously insulting by CIG. Bail out on an E3 presentation with a major corporate partner, then go there and take promotional talks anyway.
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Jun 15, 2016 01:05
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But it's so close!
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Jun 15, 2016 01:06
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TTerrible posted:Aeronautical Insanity: The last time I took a poo poo at Mach 0.8, I got locked out Thanks!
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Jun 15, 2016 01:08
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Sperglord posted:I think in this case, we can safely say we're at least operating in the classical limit. However, the question is if the value is approaching a general relativistic limit. Do we have to consider space-time curvature in calculating the mass of food? Possibly, I leave it to others to continue this investigation. Perhaps MoMA can walk down the hallway and weigh the Director of Spaceship's food. How would one know? As you approach the mass of food time would slow down. Anyways, just post with with the stuff you've heard. Nerd inside likes to hear it.
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Jun 15, 2016 01:09
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Ash1138 posted:that amd thing can't be real I want to believe
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Jun 15, 2016 01:09
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Maybe Sandi is at E3 tracking down a drunken AMD employee for telling stories.
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Jun 15, 2016 01:10
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The_Groove posted:Optimal Mixing of a Hairy Roberts Under Extreme Negative-G Conditions Analysis of the Improbable Odds of Derek Smart Having Nothing to Argue About
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Jun 15, 2016 01:12
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Inkel posted:So ideate posted this on discord.. amazing
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Jun 15, 2016 01:14
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I desperately want the AMD story to be real and for someone from their team to see her selfie-ing it up on the convention floor. What a bunch of absolute assholes.
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Jun 15, 2016 01:14
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skaboomizzy posted:I desperately want the AMD story to be real and for someone from their team to see her selfie-ing it up on the convention floor. Perhaps someone here who knows AMD people can make it happen 
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Jun 15, 2016 01:15
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I forget, why is Chris too busy?
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Jun 15, 2016 01:15
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Inkel posted:So ideate posted this on discord.. That's Our VP of Marketing!
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Jun 15, 2016 01:16
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Inkel posted:So ideate posted this on discord.. Star Citizen - Is this real life?
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Jun 15, 2016 01:18
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Sperglord posted:Thanks! There are some great domain experts in there. A lot of pilots. One guy who designs rotary wing stuff for a living, a V-22 pilot etc.
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Jun 15, 2016 01:20
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A Neurotic Jew posted:That's Our VP of Marketing! It's E3, who gives a gently caress.
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Jun 15, 2016 01:20
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Inkel posted:So ideate posted this on discord.. Are they purposely taking the piss now or what?
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Lladre posted:I forget, why is Chris too busy? Because there is no gameplay to show, but they can't say that.
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