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Coldblooded, Harold
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Jun 15, 2016 03:17
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Spergatory posted:Elias knew it, man. He saw it from the very beginning. He and Finch, they were just two sides of the same coin. Game recognize game.
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Jun 15, 2016 03:18
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This ep is astonishingly good in every way.
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Jun 15, 2016 03:24
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So if in alternate no-Machine universe, if Shaw is still getting relevant numbers from a source that is never wrong, this is just leading up to the revelation that the original Samaritan was never scrapped, right?
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Jun 15, 2016 03:25
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raditts posted:So if in alternate no-Machine universe, if Shaw is still getting relevant numbers from a source that is never wrong, this is just leading up to the revelation that the original Samaritan was never scrapped, right? Seems pretty obvious, yeah
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Jun 15, 2016 03:26
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raditts posted:So if in alternate no-Machine universe, if Shaw is still getting relevant numbers from a source that is never wrong, this is just leading up to the revelation that the original Samaritan was never scrapped, right? Well, Samaritan was developed by Harold's friend, right? And in that episode he mentioned that he was working on a product to sell to the government, but they suddenly lost interest, as in another competitor beat him to it (the Machine). Harold doesn't create the Machine, no one is standing in the way of the man who created Samaritan.
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Jun 15, 2016 03:47
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FUSCO WITH YET ANOTHER LIFE SAVING TRICK CONTINUES TO BE UNBELIEVABLE BADASS
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Jun 15, 2016 03:53
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Wait really?
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Jun 15, 2016 03:58
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Greer's death was unsatisfying. I get that he is a true believer and it was fine that Samaritan killed him, but the way they did it was just so meh and kinda stupid. Especially since it failed to kill Harold too.
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Jun 15, 2016 03:59
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I liked that he died first because he old
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Jun 15, 2016 04:00
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Huh I did not expect that.
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Jun 15, 2016 04:00
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Regy Rusty posted:I liked that he died first because he old
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Jun 15, 2016 04:01
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Hollismason posted:Huh I did not expect that. Yeah, I was expecting him to change his mind and unlock Root's upgrades to the machine instead.
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Jun 15, 2016 04:01
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Greer died as he lived, running his goddamn mouth until he ran out of oxygen.
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Jun 15, 2016 04:02
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I'm assuming the password is Harold's real last name.
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Jun 15, 2016 04:16
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I kind of liked the way he went out.
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Jun 15, 2016 04:16
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Zaggitz posted:I'm assuming the password is Harold's real last name. That's what I assumed too. But that's not the name of a bird, is it?
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Jun 15, 2016 04:18
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Echophonic posted:Greer died as he lived, running his goddamn mouth until he ran out of oxygen. lol raditts posted:That's what I assumed too. But that's not the name of a bird, is it? What did Harold even say there? I couldn't make it out?
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Jun 15, 2016 04:20
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Rad Lieutenant posted:lol I believe he said Dashwood
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Jun 15, 2016 04:24
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raditts posted:That's what I assumed too. But that's not the name of a bird, is it? He started doing bird names to honor his dad who had Alzheimer and bird watched with him. There was no reason to think his true last name would be a bird name.
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Jun 15, 2016 04:26
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pik_d posted:Yeah, I was expecting him to change his mind and unlock Root's upgrades to the machine instead. Maybe that was part of it? Or upgrade to allow the Machine to take out Samaritan in a real fight in the NSA. Digital Jedi posted:I believe he said Dashwood Google says it's the last name of the main character in Sense and Sensibility which Shaw was reading earlier.
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Jun 15, 2016 04:26
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monster on a stick posted:Google says it's the last name of the main character in Sense and Sensibility which Shaw was reading earlier. It's also the book Harold proposed to Grace with, meaning he was TELLING HER HIS REAL NAME WITHOUT HER KNOWING AAAAA THIS SHOW.
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Jun 15, 2016 04:57
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I love that Carter still took down HR.
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Jun 15, 2016 05:10
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That whole conversation also shows The Machine knew the password, which means Greer was wrong about Harold. I really have no idea where we go from here.
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Jun 15, 2016 05:11
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That was such a low budget episode, and yet it was so good. Why they hell are CBS such dicks?
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Jun 15, 2016 05:12
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WarLocke posted:<-- Avatar doesn't lie. 
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Jun 15, 2016 05:14
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I was a bit bummed they couldn't get Taraji Henson back for a short cameo in this episode.  Otherwise, great ep, though.
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Jun 15, 2016 05:28
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It seems like they only realized the season was cancelled about half way through. Maybe Blackwall shows up next episode and does a thing, but so far Root could have been killed by the black guy that wasn't in True Detective and it wouldn't have mattered one bit. Samaritan is in every device, the only way to wipe it out is to EMP everything and have people design circuits from scratch, and hope they don't say "hey this microcode looks more than adequate for our purposes" and it's actually Samaritan.
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Jun 15, 2016 05:57
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My assumption is that both ASIs will be struggling to defend themselves against the virus, and then Harold will release the Machine from it's shackles so it can attack Samaritan while they're equally weakened. Then, with all ethical constraints removed, The Machine re-ereeree-examines it's priorities, and draws new conclusions.
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Jun 15, 2016 06:11
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Or the two ASIs in the Faraday cage in the subway will rebuild.
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Jun 15, 2016 06:26
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The ASIs will merge and call themselves Skynet.
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Jun 15, 2016 06:35
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Okay, stream of consciousness post on episode: You're gonna destroy the internet. Been there, done that. I'm glad that ICE-9 is being referenced as proper. I sold the world, only I sold it for a dollar. Oh man what if lifes for everyone. CARTER IS ALIVE WHAT THE poo poo. Fusco done got his life wrecked. Greer's number! Crew going to Ft Mead. FINCH WITH A GODDAMN TRANQ GUN. HENRY loving PECK CALLBACK! GONNA GET MURDERED BY SHAW! AND HER PARTNER IS ALIVE! I can't get over the level of detail they've gone through for the callbacks. Also is the Machine only Root-Talking to Finch? I wonder what it's goal is for bringing in Reese and Shaw? Emergency Evac for Finch? Stopping him? OH poo poo IS HE DOING IT. HE'S DOING IT. ICE-9.EXE Goddamn! BROTHER GODDAMN MUZONE! OH NO FUSCO Greer sends chills up my goddamn spine with every loving word. Samaritan wants a partner! Is it Samaritan the one who wants to merge? HOLY poo poo GREER. loving DEDICATION. A bit unnecessary, but valid nonetheless! Your machine saved you Harold! Will you still kill it? John with no Machine  Harold run! Give the machine the password and leg it, let hte machine decide. YES FINCH DO IT. BUY BACK THE GODDAMN WORLD. FUSCO NO! FUSCO YES! FUSCO NO! Ms. Groves for Samaritan!?!?!? OH NO BAD CODE. Dashwood? E: Am I gonna have to read Sense and Sensibility now? I'm not keen on Jane Austin. I also don't want to stop my Iain M Banks Culture marathon. E2: Also I'm pretty sure this isn't the first time Fusco had a get shot fakeout. I'm pretty sure, way back in like S2/3 there's an episode where Fusco gets shot, everyone panics, and he's just like "You think i'm too stupid to wear a vest when I work with you guys?" Also, Fusco getting shot was a great, nice, sudden bit of violence. They just go from talking to Fusco getting shot, and it's loving great. Also, to the guy who was just getting caught up last page: You're not the only one the Machine has brought to literal tears. Especially before she really started talking. S4 Finale especially. SpookyLizard fucked around with this message at 06:59 on Jun 15, 2016 |
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Jun 15, 2016 06:47
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I thought Fusco was gonna be a boss and show that he broke his thumbs to get out of handcuffs again. Fusco still continues to be a boss, though. Reese's alt history was pretty goddamn  though.
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Jun 15, 2016 07:10
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If Finch dies, i hope he lives on in the machine, where Finch meets Grace at dinner, her being Nathan's wife's friend
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Jun 15, 2016 07:20
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Yeah the impression I got from Reese alternative history was that he drank himself to death.
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Jun 15, 2016 07:22
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Hollismason posted:Yeah the impression I got from Reese alternative history was that he drank himself to death. Sounded to me like he threw himself off a bridge or something.
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Jun 15, 2016 07:25
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ShakeZula posted:Sounded to me like he threw himself off a bridge or something. Reese was on his way to off himself when he got picked up by Finch as it was.
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Jun 15, 2016 07:27
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SpookyLizard posted:E: Am I gonna have to read Sense and Sensibility now? I'm not keen on Jane Austin. I also don't want to stop my Iain M Banks Culture marathon. Nah all that matters is that the protag of it has the same last name as Harold which keys into the significance of why he gave Grace Sense and Sensibility when he proposed.
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Jun 15, 2016 07:27
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Hollismason posted:Yeah the impression I got from Reese alternative history was that he drank himself to death. He fell into a depression and threw himself off a bridge. The Machine says his body was pulled out of the East River and then dumped in a numbered grave because he was a John Doe. e: Beaten, several times over
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Jun 15, 2016 07:29
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In The pilot script iirc is Reese standing in front of a body of water about to jump before he decides not tonight and then goes on the subway that leads to him meeting Finch and Carter. Make of that what you will with how he ended up in the altverse.
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Jun 15, 2016 07:35
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