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If you want a good idea of how a Genji can move vertically watch some of Seagull's videos sometime. Dude hardly ever touches the floor, and if there is a McCree on the other side it's amazingly lucky how he never ever encounters him. Almost as if a backflipping ninja who can triple jump and wall climb can avoid a dude who moves like he's soiled his britches. e: Disclaimer I'm not even that good with Genji and would rather not play him most of the time, but virtually every single problem area where you're ever likely to encounter McCree there's at least 2 alternative routes around that Genji can take. I can't help but feel that most of these "X gets shut down by Y" things would become less apparent if you actually play as Y for a while and see how X can often run circles around you. Rush Limbo fucked around with this message at 16:23 on Jun 17, 2016 |
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QuantaStarFire posted:My question is: Why is Flashbang a stun at all? Why not just white out vision like every other video game ever? At least then it can either be used defensively so he can pull out of a bad engagement or use it to mindgame people; get flankers to blow their "Oh poo poo" buttons using FTH, then follow up with the flashbang and get them while they can't loving see anything. Because mobility (traps/snares/ice as well as dash/sprint) and damage mitigation play a much larger role in this game than other games? E: Ddraig posted:If you want a good idea of how a Genji can move vertically watch some of Seagull's videos sometime. Dude hardly ever touches the floor, and if there is a McCree on the other side it's amazingly lucky how he never ever encounters him. This is a great example. Genji is designed to be elusive and bouncy as hell in the horizontal and vertical planes (tracer being almost exclusively horizontally mobile since her blink doesn't go up or down) and with the way his throwing stars work he doesnt have to stay close to anyone unless he pops his ult. Sure he's dangerous up close as well as at range but McCree has a hard counter in the flashbang and the wise "low-HP highly mobile character" archetype stays outside flash range unless they know it's on cooldown and/or have the drop on an injured McCree. FAUXTON fucked around with this message at 16:20 on Jun 17, 2016 |
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Jun 17, 2016 16:15
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Thor-Stryker posted:Toblerone: Biker skins pale in comparison to mother loving pirates. Is there any demographic of gamer that thinks bikers are cool?
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Jun 17, 2016 16:17
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gnome7 posted:But two Zaryas are even better than one Zarya! Yeah, a coordinated two Zarya push is scary as hell.
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Jun 17, 2016 16:21
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I know someone whose favourite game besides wow is the lost and damned, and favourite tv series is sons of anarchy also, I haven't got any gold skins for torb but I'd probably go for the biker one personally
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Jun 17, 2016 16:22
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MY ABACUS! posted:Is there any demographic of gamer that thinks bikers are cool? The skin looks cool as hell, but not as cool as the pirate one because pirate beats out biker any day of the week. e: One thing the Biker skins do have over the Pirate ones is that the turret will gain a star motif.
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Jun 17, 2016 16:25
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personally i want a torbjorn skin with even more ikea jokes like when he builds a turret he talks about all the spare parts he has lying around
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Jun 17, 2016 16:26
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MY ABACUS! posted:Is there any demographic of gamer that thinks bikers are cool? why do you hate full throttle
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FAUXTON posted:This is a great example. Genji is designed to be elusive and bouncy as hell in the horizontal and vertical planes (tracer being almost exclusively horizontally mobile since her blink doesn't go up or down) and with the way his throwing stars work he doesnt have to stay close to anyone unless he pops his ult. Sure he's dangerous up close as well as at range but McCree has a hard counter in the flashbang and the wise "low-HP highly mobile character" archetype stays outside flash range unless they know it's on cooldown and/or have the drop on an injured McCree. It's too bad that map design and the existence of Widowmaker tends to ultimately funnel Genji into cramped areas and chokepoints.
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MY ABACUS! posted:Is there any demographic of gamer that thinks bikers are cool? you must not have played road rash
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mid life crisis torbjorn is cool but i really wish there were a skin called BattleBjorn.
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Jun 17, 2016 16:33
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Zoness posted:mid life crisis torbjorn is cool but i really wish there were a skin called BattleBjorn. It would have a heads-up display that would impair your view with awesome unneeded feedback clutter.
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Jun 17, 2016 16:37
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This is too good not to share. Or not to repost if someone shared already.      
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I can also play Baba O'Riley on the Dorado bells, I've realized.
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I think Zenyatta might be my favorite hero to play, but in quick play the number of times that I actually get to play him correctly is so small it's painful. I love his play style of sitting just behind the main fight, patching allies up where possible and making prime targets hurt with discord orbs while launching pinpoint accurate harassment is just the right combo of frantic that I enjoy, and his ult for actually pushing an objective or coming in to save the day is so rewarding, but pubs are so god drat useless that most of the time I feel like a free kill for the enemies that walk straight through the fight untouched and dump their load in my flimsy metallic rear end.
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PotatoManJack posted:I think Zenyatta might be my favorite hero to play, but in quick play the number of times that I actually get to play him correctly is so small it's painful. Yeah I love to play Zenyatta a good character that I'm good at and agree that pubs are the only thing holding me back from greatness.
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Jun 17, 2016 16:55
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Can you seriously not gift this game to someone? Jesus, that's amazingly inept.
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Jun 17, 2016 17:00
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You gotta buy blizz bucks from Amazon and then give the codes to your friend.
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PotatoManJack posted:I think Zenyatta might be my favorite hero to play, but in quick play the number of times that I actually get to play him correctly is so small it's painful. Then touch them. You're a glass cannon semi-sniper DPS character who, incidentally, heals folk with a reactive ult and a fire-and-forget harmony orb. If you're quick on E--which you should be--Zen can damage race any tank except a fully charged Zarya. If people are walking straight through fights untouched then you share some of the blame for not changing your priorities quickly enough to the dude running at you.
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The best feeling as Zenyatta is getting a Rein down to a sliver of health and kicking him when he puts his shield up. 
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Willie Tomg posted:Then touch them. You're a glass cannon semi-sniper DPS character who, incidentally, heals folk with a reactive ult and a fire-and-forget harmony orb. If you're quick on E--which you should be--Zen can damage race any tank except a fully charged Zarya. If people are walking straight through fights untouched then you share some of the blame for not changing your priorities quickly enough to the dude running at you. Not sure if you mean with your team helping but Zenyatta definitely can't solo the tanks. If Winston jumps on you you're dead in less than 3 seconds, Roadhog right click will kill you in one, Reinhardt in 2 swings etc
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Just had a 5 gold game on Numbani attack. My team went Reaper, Tracer, Genji, Hanzo, Widowmaker. I picked Zarya and wandered outside the spawn for a few seconds, then decided that wasn't going to work so I walked back in and picked Soldier: 76. I carried our inept team. The Genji did switch to Symmetra, though. On offense. Her first two teleporters were helpful, but I was not able to carry our team to the final victory. Discovering that the Sym's third teleporter lead off a cliff in the final seconds of the game was the cherry on top.
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I never used Whole Hog while Zarya is Going For The Tovlesteen because I didnt want to knock them out of it my whole life has apparently been a lie
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Soothing Vapors posted:I never used Whole Hog while Zarya is Going For The Tovlesteen because I didnt want to knock them out of it Please shoot into the Tovlesteen. Everyone, when you hear your friendly Zarya telling you to fire at will, fire at will. This is a chance to wipe the other team, not a chance to fall back and leave Zarya alone on the bloody point. /edit: also, let your friendly Zarya know when you have ult up. She'll line them up, you'll get POTG.
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Edmond Dantes posted:Please shoot into the Tovlesteen. in my experience, it's generally a chance to make like one hanzo or something very sad
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Manatee Cannon posted:in my experience, it's generally a chance to make like one hanzo or something very sad *Results may vary
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Edmond Dantes posted:Please shoot into the Tovlesteen. There's a tick under people's names in the score board if they have ult. You know the most frustrating thing in the world? Seeing people with all their ults up waiting for Zarya to use hers. It really doesn't work like that, folks. If you're waiting for that perfect opportunity you're probably going to be playing not-aggressively and if you don't play aggressively Zarya can't do her work and if Zarya can't do her work then you have loving wasted them. Use ults when appropriate. Don't save them up for that big play or it will never come.
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So Widowmaker having a silent ult is on purpose, right?
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Grapplejack posted:So Widowmaker having a silent ult is on purpose, right? It's not silent, you can hear a French phrase, it's not too loud though. I don't remember the phrase
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Ddraig posted:There's a tick under people's names in the score board if they have ult. I don't mean saving it but if you announce it, it's easier than tabbing every few seconds to see the ult status of your team. Zarya's ult charges slowly so I'm usually a bit more careful when to use it, but if I know I have a charged Pharah behind me I'll be more likely to use it.
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please put an indicator for players to show when they have just moved out of guardian angel line of sight it is infuriating on some maps also people who don't switch off symmetra after point A might be ok but people who switch TO a second symmetra on the last point on payload probably deserve some special kind of hell Zoness fucked around with this message at 18:21 on Jun 17, 2016 |
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Grapplejack posted:So Widowmaker having a silent ult is on purpose, right? It's not silent, but the audio queue has a greatly decreased radius compared to, say, Deadeye. The main reason it's relatively quiet is that it would otherwise lead to a weird situation where activating Infra-Sight would actually decrease Widowmaker's effectiveness, because everyone would play super cautiously, jump after they rounded every corner, hide behind a Reinhardt shield, or just flat-out not poke their heads out of spawn until 15s have passed.
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Shy posted:It's not silent, you can hear a French phrase, it's not too loud though. I don't remember the phrase something something a mon regarde
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Edmond Dantes posted:Please shoot into the Tovlesteen. I just assumed the knockback would be stronger than the Tovlesteen for some reason. I always shoot it at least! Ddraig posted:There's a tick under people's names in the score board if they have ult. well, no. you are garbage. I am not ulting for you
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Soothing Vapors posted:well, no. you are garbage. I am not ulting for you not ulting for a player who is poorly positioned is probably the best feeling as mercy sometimes I spam my ult status as I choose not to ult them, although the point of that really is to say, maybe if you die somewhere useful, we can actually get something done
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These are probably the ones you want to watch out for as they may not be apparant due to the limited nature and them not having incredibly flashy effects if you're not in the immediate area: Hero: Friendly/Enemy Widowmaker: No-one can hide from my sights/Personne n'échappe à mon regard Reaper: Clearing the Area/DIE DIE DIE Soldier 76: Tactical Visor activated/I've got you in my sights Zarya: Fire at Will/I'm going for the Tobelstein (actually Ogon’ po gotovnosti but it will never not be this) McCree: Step right up/It's High Noon If you hear the first one, it's friendly, and you should probably support them by not blocking them with an ice wall or blocking off possible escapes or shielding them or whatever. e: Important note for Mei, if you hear "Step Right Up", "Tactical visor activated" or "Clearing the Area" and you have an ice wall up, drop it immediately. There's a greater than zero chance it might be hurting more than it's helping and if it's down you at least have an even footing. Rush Limbo fucked around with this message at 18:26 on Jun 17, 2016 |
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Zoness posted:sometimes I spam my ult status as I choose not to ult them, although the point of that really is to say, maybe if you die somewhere useful, we can actually get something done
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Practicing mercy in pubs is a good way to really get creative with guardian angel, but it's hard not to be passive aggressive with some players. It's like really amazing how much common sense some people lack, especially with regards to health packs. Like if you are not under fire and you are being healed maybe leave the health pack there so your mercy charges her ult faster and has something to fall back on when she's under pressure, just spitballing ideas here. I think mercy might be the single hero I have the most and least fun playing, sometimes at the same time. Zoness fucked around with this message at 18:34 on Jun 17, 2016 |
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Vermain posted:It's not silent, but the audio queue has a greatly decreased radius compared to, say, Deadeye. The main reason it's relatively quiet is that it would otherwise lead to a weird situation where activating Infra-Sight would actually decrease Widowmaker's effectiveness, because everyone would play super cautiously, jump after they rounded every corner, hide behind a Reinhardt shield, or just flat-out not poke their heads out of spawn until 15s have passed. Being able to stop enemy momentum by hitting q sounds very effective, I don't know what you're talking about.
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Zoness posted:Practicing mercy in pubs is a good way to really get creative with guardian angel, but it's hard not to be passive aggressive with some players. It's like really amazing how much common sense some people lack, especially with regards to health packs. i love health packs so much
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