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Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


I've been thinking of retiring 4 of my 1080p monitors lately and going with one big 4K monitor to take their place. So I guess this post is slightly obsolete tech related.

As I am a cheap bastard and don't like spending much money, but wanting good quality stuff I tried with my supplier reps for 'staff pricing' etc - the screen I want is $1400 RRP here in Australia. I can get it for maybe $1000 through their discounts. I'm too cheap for THAT poo poo!

I have legitimate access to this brands complete spare parts database at work and free reign to order whatever I want for myself at my employers cost price. So I decide to price up every single spare part on the exploded view diagrams and required 'test gear' to program EDID into the processor board etc. What does this cost me (plus a few hours in putting them all together)? $650 for a leading brand 43in 4K monitor!

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KozmoNaut
Apr 23, 2008

Happiness is a warm
Turbo Plasma Rifle


Add the 4K monitor, but keep the 1080p ones as well.

One can never have too many monitors, I only have 3 at work right now :(

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


KozmoNaut posted:

Add the 4K monitor, but keep the 1080p ones as well.

One can never have too many monitors, I only have 3 at work right now :(

Don't tempt me, I run 7 monitors now as it is! This is 5 on main system and 2 for Raspberry PIs.

Collateral Damage
Jun 13, 2009

Humphreys posted:

I've been thinking of retiring 4 of my 1080p monitors lately and going with one big 4K monitor to take their place. So I guess this post is slightly obsolete tech related.
1080p computer monitors were always obsolete and failed. 1920x1200 supremacy.

Pilsner
Nov 23, 2002

Collateral Damage posted:

1080p computer monitors were always obsolete and failed. 1920x1200 supremacy.
Amen brother; gently caress 16:9 for computer screens.

old bean factory
Nov 18, 2006

Will ya close the fucking doors?!
I just reanimated an old Samsung monitor with busted caps, and forgot it was in 16:10. Look at all those extra pixels! If it had an IPS panel like my current monitor, I'd totally use it again.

champagne posting
Apr 5, 2006

YOU ARE A BRAIN
IN A BUNKER

Pilsner posted:

Amen brother; gently caress 16:9 for computer screens.

Good luck finding a decent laptop with 16:10 that's not branded Apple.

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

Boiled Water posted:

Good luck finding a decent laptop with 16:10 that's not branded Apple.

Laptops aren't real computers anyway.

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


Jerry Cotton posted:

Laptops aren't real computers anyway.

Unless it's a Panasonic Toughbook. Those are built for actual field work not as a cordless facebook reader. :colbert:

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS

Humphreys posted:

Unless it's a Panasonic Toughbook. Those are built for actual field work not as a cordless facebook reader. :colbert:

Do you drive an SUV to the supermarket?

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


Platystemon posted:

Do you drive an SUV to the supermarket?

gently caress no, honestly I couldn't see myself ever wanting or buying an SUV. Kids need to get to school? Buy them a bike. I legitimately used a Toughbook for many years in the mining industry, that's all.

Code Jockey
Jan 24, 2006

69420 basic bytes free

Humphreys posted:

Don't tempt me, I run 7 monitors now as it is! This is 5 on main system and 2 for Raspberry PIs.

Good man. The only thing I miss about my last job was my 5 monitors [one big 4k, two 1440x900, two 1280x1024]. It took up my entire desk, which was two regular desks put together in an L shape, and it was awesome. I would've put on two more with a DisplayLink USB adapter I had, but ehh, never got around to it.

I would do it at home, but my main monitor is a 37" 1080p TV, and it takes up all of my desk. I might go for a slightly smaller 4k at some point, but this one works really well for playing games and watching things, kind of sucks for programming/whatever though due to the lack of pixels vs. enormous size.

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


Code Jockey posted:

Good man. The only thing I miss about my last job was my 5 monitors [one big 4k, two 1440x900, two 1280x1024]. It took up my entire desk, which was two regular desks put together in an L shape, and it was awesome. I would've put on two more with a DisplayLink USB adapter I had, but ehh, never got around to it.

I would do it at home, but my main monitor is a 37" 1080p TV, and it takes up all of my desk. I might go for a slightly smaller 4k at some point, but this one works really well for playing games and watching things, kind of sucks for programming/whatever though due to the lack of pixels vs. enormous size.

In my job I run one monitor. It's hell. My boss is happy for me to have more - it's up to IT to allocate it to my workstation. If I work from home through RDP it's annoying. Two days ago I had a day off (6 days a week for me) and someone kept loving with my mouse locally. Oh I wish for a serious IT department.

champagne posting
Apr 5, 2006

YOU ARE A BRAIN
IN A BUNKER

Humphreys posted:

In my job I run one monitor. It's hell. My boss is happy for me to have more - it's up to IT to allocate it to my workstation. If I work from home through RDP it's annoying. Two days ago I had a day off (6 days a week for me) and someone kept loving with my mouse locally. Oh I wish for a serious IT department.

Terrible tip: Take your mouse with you when you leave the office.

sarcastx
Feb 26, 2005



Humphreys posted:

In my job I run one monitor. It's hell. My boss is happy for me to have more - it's up to IT to allocate it to my workstation. If I work from home through RDP it's annoying. Two days ago I had a day off (6 days a week for me) and someone kept loving with my mouse locally. Oh I wish for a serious IT department.

When I used to work from home and RDP into my work machine, I would use the RDP executable from "Run" followed by the flags for the size of my home multi-monitor setup.
In my case, it would be mstsc /v:<worsktationID> /w:3800 /h:1000 for two 1920x1080 monitors. There are also flags you can specify to send your "Winkey" and other presses right to the machine you're connecting that I forgot - you may want those since this is technically running in a window. Then you just drag the RDP window to cover both your displays. Leave a little overlap or Windows won't show the whole thing and keeps trying to resize it down to one screen.

It's super klugey, but as far as I know, this is the only way to remotely connect to a Windows server using RDP and have use of multiple monitors.

edit:
As I was typing this, I was thinking to myself "I never actually did try to find a better way than this" and since I administer Windows servers from the "Run" menu all the time and never launch the RDP gui, I never bothered looking for any options.

Lo and behold:


or the "/span" flag if you use the command line

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Code Jockey
Jan 24, 2006

69420 basic bytes free

Humphreys posted:

In my job I run one monitor. It's hell. My boss is happy for me to have more - it's up to IT to allocate it to my workstation. If I work from home through RDP it's annoying. Two days ago I had a day off (6 days a week for me) and someone kept loving with my mouse locally. Oh I wish for a serious IT department.

My idiot boss whined about my setup as I was getting it to work, that it wasn't a good use of time [conflicts, Windows having seizures, it took maybe half a day to make it calm down], but I am WAY more efficient that way. One monitor for Outlook, since I used to get mail constantly, two for Visual Studio, one for SQL Management Studio, one for a web browser. Worked great.

I'm back to one now and it sucks, but I'm just working on architecture plans for a new system, so one window at a time is fine. When I get to programming though, I'm throwing on the displaylink adapter. :P


sarcastx posted:


Lo and behold:


or the "/span" flag if you use the command line

The single best thing to happen to Windows in a very long time. Having all three of my home monitors available when I remoted in before was amazing.

well why not
Feb 10, 2009




You know how a few years ago, we crossed the threshold for SSDs being really, really worth it? Like, if you bought a computer with no SSD since 2012, you're blowing it?

We're currently at that moment for 1440p/4k monitors.

ColHannibal
Sep 17, 2007

well why not posted:

You know how a few years ago, we crossed the threshold for SSDs being really, really worth it? Like, if you bought a computer with no SSD since 2012, you're blowing it?

We're currently at that moment for 1440 monitors.

The Sicilian
Sep 3, 2006

by Smythe

well why not posted:

You know how a few years ago, we crossed the threshold for SSDs being really, really worth it? Like, if you bought a computer with no SSD since 2012, you're blowing it?

We're currently at that moment for 1440p/4k monitors.

Truth.

DicktheCat
Feb 15, 2011

Asking cause y'all would know: is Windows 7 thread fodder yet?

Should I just give in to Windows 10? I hate it, I don't want it, but I don't wanna be left behind. :ohdear:


E: I keep going back and forth on it. I saw a game that required it the other day and got spooked.

GWBBQ
Jan 2, 2005


DicktheCat posted:

Asking cause y'all would know: is Windows 7 thread fodder yet?

Should I just give in to Windows 10? I hate it, I don't want it, but I don't wanna be left behind. :ohdear:


E: I keep going back and forth on it. I saw a game that required it the other day and got spooked.
Microsoft will continue security updates for consumers until next January, so you'll want to switch before then.

ColHannibal
Sep 17, 2007
Just upgrade, follow the guides to disable to automatic updates and it's just like Windows 7.

DicktheCat
Feb 15, 2011

Thenks for the advice! I appreciate it!

dont be mean to me
May 2, 2007

I'm interplanetary, bitch
Let's go to Mars


ColHannibal posted:

Just upgrade

Do this.

quote:

follow the guides to disable to automatic updates and it's just like Windows 7.

Really? We're doing this now? If you're that freaked out about broken patches like it's the days of XP or something then it's time to stop using Windows altogether.

GOTTA STAY FAI
Mar 24, 2005

~no glitter in the gutter~
~no twilight galaxy~
College Slice
Hold up--like two months ago, I got roasted by goons for asking the same question about a machine that wasn't even mine (I was helping a friend rehab a machine she'd "lost" the charger to and had since replaced).

What the gently caress has changed since then? Is EDGETM now not just a rebranded Internet Explorer? Does Win10 now not share your loving WEP key with anyone nearby, out-of-the-box? Has it stopped using your bandwidth to provide updates to strangers whose machines happen to be within your WiFi range? Do you now not have to dig for ages through myriad menus to disable every privacy-compromising option that is enabled by default? Do auto-updates now not put a bunch of poo poo you don't want on your computer when you're not looking or when you specifically have said not to more than once?

I don't mean to be overly combative here but holy poo poo to go from "dude no" to "definitely do it" all of a sudden means I've got something wrong or y'all motherfuckers are actually Windows 10 stealing goons' logins

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Samizdata
May 14, 2007

DicktheCat posted:

Thenks for the advice! I appreciate it!

I haven't regretted it. Although I did a clean install.

Caedus
Sep 11, 2007

It's good to have a sense of scale.



GOTTA STAY FAI posted:

Hold up--like two months ago, I got roasted by goons for asking the same question about a machine that wasn't even mine (I was helping a friend rehab a machine she'd "lost" the charger to and had since replaced).

What the gently caress has changed since then? Is EDGETM now not just a rebranded Internet Explorer? Does Win10 now not share your loving WEP key with anyone nearby, out-of-the-box? Has it stopped using your bandwidth to provide updates to strangers whose machines happen to be within your WiFi range? Do you now not have to dig for ages through myriad menus to disable every privacy-compromising option that is enabled by default? Do auto-updates now not put a bunch of poo poo you don't want on your computer when you're not looking or when you specifically have said not to more than once?

I don't mean to be overly combative here but holy poo poo to go from "dude no" to "definitely do it" all of a sudden means I've got something wrong or y'all motherfuckers are actually Windows 10 stealing goons' logins

Seriously, this! I've been ignoring the upgrade for months because goons were so vocal about the privacy stuff. I figured if I needed to jump through that many hoops to make it Windows 7-ish, I'd just stick it out with 7 for as long as I could. Has any of this changed? It's kind of a baffling turn-around in opinion from everything else I've read up to now.

Tunicate
May 15, 2012

Sir Unimaginative posted:

Really? We're doing this now? If you're that freaked out about broken patches like it's the days of XP or something then it's time to stop using Windows altogether.

yes because having microsoft silently install a new OS and take closing the window as consent doesn't set a bad precedent about how they'll use the ability to force updates onto your computer

Gromit
Aug 15, 2000

I am an oppressed White Male, Asian women wont serve me! Save me Campbell Newman!!!!!!!
I won't go from Win 7 to 10 on my main PC but not because I'm scared of change. My 7 install works nicely, and when I did the upgrade to 10 it would hard lock several times a day with no error report, whether I was in a game or just at the desktop. I tried doing a fresh 10 install and it exhibited the same behaviour. Went back to 7 and it's all fine again.
I guess there is just something in my hardware that 10 hates. When I replace the system I'll go to 10, but not on this box.

Karasu Tengu
Feb 16, 2011

Humble Tengu Newspaper Reporter

GOTTA STAY FAI posted:

Does Win10 now not share your loving WEP key with anyone nearby, out-of-the-box? Has it stopped using your bandwidth to provide updates to strangers whose machines happen to be within your WiFi range?


The rest of it still stands and you probably should care since your phone and tablet and everything else does it too, but these never happened. Wifi sense only shares keys with people you specifically say it can share with, and if you don't use a Microsoft account that's linked to your Facebook then it doesn't have a list to populate anyway. The windows update sharing just shares windows updates via local network to computers you own and are logged into with a MS account.

Toast Museum
Dec 3, 2005

30% Iron Chef
Wi-Fi Sense is going away anyway. Not enough people used it to justify continued development. I thought it was kind of a neat idea, in principle.

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS
I hear you like digital dashboards:




1984 Lincoln Continental Mark VII

ColHannibal
Sep 17, 2007

Sir Unimaginative posted:

Do this.


Really? We're doing this now? If you're that freaked out about broken patches like it's the days of XP or something then it's time to stop using Windows altogether.

Im just tired of uninstalling my programs.

Code Jockey
Jan 24, 2006

69420 basic bytes free

Platystemon posted:

I hear you like digital dashboards:




1984 Lincoln Continental Mark VII

loving amazing. My dad didn't have this exactly [no trip computer controls, but those gauges for sure] but just looking at this - especially in that red and wood trim - made me immediately nostalgic.

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS
I like how it has all those trip log features, but they couldn't spring for another digit on the odometer. Maybe that says something about their confidence in the car’s quality.

If there’s a way to bring up a tachometer, I can’t find it.

I’m not sure what’s up with the big knob on the stereo. I couldn’t find a manual for the stereo, but I did find one for the Trip Minder™ (PDF). Anyway, when I pull on the knob, the sound gets loud and distorted. Maybe it’s supposed to boost the bass?

That seems a little strange on what I consider a grandma car, but it is from the ’80s.

dont be mean to me
May 2, 2007

I'm interplanetary, bitch
Let's go to Mars


Tunicate posted:

yes because having microsoft silently install a new OS and take closing the window as consent doesn't set a bad precedent about how they'll use the ability to force updates onto your computer

It's their OS. It's been their OS for thirty years. You just can't deny it anymore. And as a bonus that stuff is in 7 and 8.1 now and they can just re-add the relevant patches to get them out of your hidden updates list pretty much whenever they think to do so.

No, people do not remember to patch manually every month, because normal people do not work that way, and not patching is how we get Windows XP again.

If this is a problem for you, why are you still using Windows.

DicktheCat
Feb 15, 2011

Cold, bruh.

ColHannibal
Sep 17, 2007

Sir Unimaginative posted:

It's their OS. It's been their OS for thirty years. You just can't deny it anymore. And as a bonus that stuff is in 7 and 8.1 now and they can just re-add the relevant patches to get them out of your hidden updates list pretty much whenever they think to do so.

No, people do not remember to patch manually every month, because normal people do not work that way, and not patching is how we get Windows XP again.

If this is a problem for you, why are you still using Windows.

The problem is it ops into everything and also uninstalls your programs if it deems them incompatible.

Cat Hatter
Oct 24, 2006

Hatters gonna hat.

ColHannibal posted:

The problem is it ops into everything and also uninstalls your programs if it deems them incompatible.

I've never had Windows 10 uninstall any of my stuff, and all the data mining stuff got ported to Windows 7 and 8 but instead of giving you an automatically checked box there just isn't any way to turn it off (at least not without dicking around in the registry).

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champagne posting
Apr 5, 2006

YOU ARE A BRAIN
IN A BUNKER

Is it the anonymous statistics of crashes and things that constitutes spying on you?

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