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I like that Microsoft managed to gently caress up 10 so badly, that a loving iconic feature of Windows, the start menu, is broken enough to need a dedicated troubleshooter. It's been working fine since Windows 95. The most you ever had to do was restart explorer.exe. Did they fire all the good developers or what? HalloKitty fucked around with this message at 15:07 on Jun 22, 2016 |
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MS did fire their Windows QA team a while ago. That might've done it.
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Last Chance posted:MS did fire their Windows QA team a while ago. That might've done it. This plus management hell, I bet.
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xamphear posted:Yeah, with SSD speeds these days, the tool might as well just initiate a reboot. Shouldn't take longer than a minute! Hell, they could just have the OS restart on it's own every so often to make sure. oh..
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New fast ring build today. Recently relevant itc:quote:We fixed an issue where a focus box was sometimes visible when launching the Start menu, resulting in type to search not working. Guess I was right when I said Factor Mystic posted:The next time you hit start and type and nothing happens, pause and observe the situation. Is there an accessibility focus rectangle present? I have noticed this a couple times (outline around hamburger menu, for instance). In this case, keyboard input isn't going to search, it's going to the accessibility system. Clicking into empty space on the tiles area typically puts keyboard focus back into it so you can type and search.
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Jun 22, 2016 17:37
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http://betanews.com/2016/06/22/windows-10-insider-preview-build-14371/ New build details. Included is an "Activation Troubleshooter" that will fix activation issues if you replace hardware.
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GreenNight posted:http://betanews.com/2016/06/22/windows-10-insider-preview-build-14371/ "You’ll also be able to link a Microsoft account (MSA) to the activation digital license starting with this build." Cool.
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Slow ring updated to "14366.rs1_release.160610-1700" I'm assuming some time after the 10th. "Surprise! This reboot is actually going to take 30 minutes!" Oh well, works fine.
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Doctor_Fruitbat posted:We're moving to Windows 10 laptops at work that I'll need to set up, and while I can probably get the start menu amended by our IT department for future OS images, it would be a massive time saver for now if I can manually customise the start menu to a standard template without having to delete or add every individual tile, is that possible? Is there a file or folder that I can just copy over? Here's another fun thing to deal with - the Start Menu layout doesn't roam by design. Also there doesn't appear to be any policy to change the default homepage and search provider in Edge.
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Jun 22, 2016 23:13
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Factor Mystic posted:New fast ring build today. Recently relevant itc: I wonder if they fixed calc.exe, too. I've had issues alt-tabbing back to it and having the hamburger selected instead. its a loving calculator, let me type digits!
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necrotic posted:I wonder if they fixed calc.exe, too. I've had issues alt-tabbing back to it and having the hamburger selected instead. its a loving calculator, let me type digits! Should be fixed.
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WattsvilleBlues posted:Should be fixed. Thank gently caress. I use calc way too much and it was getting very frustrating.
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dissss posted:Also there doesn't appear to be any policy to change the default homepage and search provider in Edge.
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necrotic posted:Thank gently caress. I use calc way too much and it was getting very frustrating. You could get a different calc app, if you don't care about a touch-friendly UI. Someone ported the Windows 7 calc.exe to Windows 10. http://winaero.com/blog/get-calculator-from-windows-8-and-windows-7-in-windows-10/ It is absolutely insane that there is even a demand for a third-party calc app. It doesn't even have extra features. It's literally the Windows 7 calc.
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Last Chance posted:MS did fire their Windows QA team a while ago. That might've done it. my favorite thing that I'm dealing with right now is not being able to get into safe mode because you have to be able to boot the pc to enable it windows 10 is just so advanced that you can't press f8 anymore
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plushpuffin posted:You could get a different calc app, if you don't care about a touch-friendly UI. Someone ported the Windows 7 calc.exe to Windows 10. Not really. The nicety of the 7 program is that you could nestle it in a corner and not lose much of your main application while doing math on the side. The 8/10 calls are twice-plus the screen area and makes it harder to just have a drat floating calculator. While working on something else. I kill my phones battery now because on a laptop screen I simply can't sacrifice a full third of the screen real estate for a calculator.
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Arsten posted:Not really. The nicety of the 7 program is that you could nestle it in a corner and not lose much of your main application while doing math on the side. The 8/10 calls are twice-plus the screen area and makes it harder to just have a drat floating calculator. While working on something else. I kill my phones battery now because on a laptop screen I simply can't sacrifice a full third of the screen real estate for a calculator. I think you misunderstood me. The demand is justified, because Microsoft still hasn't walked back enough on the touch-first UI from Windows 8. It's just insane that these built-in metro apps are so unpolished, yet have replaced perfectly functional, faster, and better-behaved Windows forms applications.
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At this point I just want Vulkan to take over so I can switch to Linux.
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BiohazrD posted:my favorite thing that I'm dealing with right now is not being able to get into safe mode because you have to be able to boot the pc to enable it after a time (i think three) unsuccessful boots you will get the menu to choose safe mode. And that is because people actually prefer fast boot times. PerrineClostermann posted:At this point I just want Vulkan to take over so I can switch to Linux. that won't magically make games appear on linux.
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Nor will it help with timely bugfixes for games on Linux.
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Jun 23, 2016 12:11
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Never said it would, but it would definitely help.
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PerrineClostermann posted:Never said it would, but it would definitely help. Not as long as game devs keep using DirectX.
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plushpuffin posted:I think you misunderstood me. The demand is justified, because Microsoft still hasn't walked back enough on the touch-first UI from Windows 8. It's just insane that these built-in metro apps are so unpolished, yet have replaced perfectly functional, faster, and better-behaved Windows forms applications. I...agree? I was saying that it wasn't "insane" that there was the demand because of the huge drawbacks of the new calculator.
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Arsten posted:I...agree? I was saying that it wasn't "insane" that there was the demand because of the huge drawbacks of the new calculator. OK, sorry. I was confused by the "not really" at the beginning of your post. I thought you were contradicting me. We both agree that MS hosed up a simple utility. I was just saying that it's "insane" that they would gently caress it up so badly that there would even be a demand for a replacement for the built-in utility. plushpuffin fucked around with this message at 16:31 on Jun 23, 2016 |
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plushpuffin posted:OK, sorry. I was confused by the "not really" at the beginning of your post. I thought you were contradicting me. We both agree that MS hosed up a simple utility. I was just saying that it's "insane" that they would gently caress it up so badly that there would even be a demand for a replacement for the built-in utility. My bad. Also, if you are going to get anywhere in IT, learn to read minds. 
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necrotic posted:Not as long as game devs keep using DirectX. Well, yes. This is why in my original post I wanted Vulkan to take over. Was that unclear somehow
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Cross-posting from the Vive thread, but is anyone else on the Windows 10 Fast Ring v14367 having hardlock issues when they try to play anything? After a few weeks of no VR I fired up my Vive tonight only to discover that games I had no problem with in the past are now hardlocking my system after about a minute of game time. All of my hardware drivers are up to date, my entire Vive setup has up-to-date firmware, and my PC's fully updated. And by hardlock I mean the Vive image freezes, the monitor image freezes, the keyboard and mouse are unresponsive, and the audio will screech a single note for a few seconds before playing the last 10 seconds on a loop. I have to force the PC off and then bring it up before I can use it again. At first I thought it was Altspace VR's fault, but then BigRoom did the same thing so now I'm suspecting the latest Windows Fast Ring is the culprit. I'm seriously considering wiping and reinstalling with non-pre-release Windows just for some stability.
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PerrineClostermann posted:Well, yes. This is why in my original post I wanted Vulkan to take over. nobody actually reads posts anymore, it's more important to be Right
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HalloKitty posted:I like that Microsoft managed to gently caress up 10 so badly, that a loving iconic feature of Windows, the start menu, is broken enough to need a dedicated troubleshooter. It's been working fine since Windows 95. The most you ever had to do was restart explorer.exe. I'm guessing you never used Windows 8? Anyway I read about the 7/29 upgrade and went to this thread to do research and welp.
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WattsvilleBlues posted:Is there a way to increase the size of the text in the File Explorer toolbar area? Anyone? This makes me 
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So, will they stop nagging if I don't upgrade by next week? And is there a way to generate win10 keys from win7 keys without having win7 installed, for future updates?
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Ika posted:So, will they stop nagging if I don't upgrade by next week? LOL hell no, I'm banking on them staying the course only now holding your system hostage after installation pending credit card information or rolling back to 7/8.
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Ika posted:And is there a way to generate win10 keys from win7 keys without having win7 installed, for future updates? No. You must upgrade if you want your hardware to be able to use it for free. Otherwise you're going to have t just buy Windows 10.
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Ika posted:So, will they stop nagging if I don't upgrade by next week? And is there a way to generate win10 keys from win7 keys without having win7 installed, for future updates? Next week? I think the offer expires at the end of July, not June.
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The date is right there in the thread title, guys.
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fishmech posted:No. You must upgrade if you want your hardware to be able to use it for free. Otherwise you're going to have t just buy Windows 10. Right now a person can install Windows 10 fresh and use an applicable Windows 7 key to activate. At least that's what I did on my MacBook Pro so unless it's something special to Bootcamp/Mac installations which seems unlikely.
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SourKraut posted:Right now a person can install Windows 10 fresh and use an applicable Windows 7 key to activate. At least that's what I did on my MacBook Pro so unless it's something special to Bootcamp/Mac installations which seems unlikely. Yeah, he worded it a little weird. He's saying you can't take a Windows 7 key and somehow turn it into a Windows 10 key that will activate after July 29th by itself. There's no key conversion process beyond using it for an installation before the end date.
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I rolled back from the latest fast ring build so quickly I didn't even notice if they fixed calc selecting the hamburger menu when loading. Lol. Thanks for breaking flash guys, especially for somehow managing to break it inside of chrome and Firefox in addition to edge. At least rolling back didn't gently caress the store apps. This time. Though I have to admit, replacing the whole windows folder method of updates is getting smoother over time.
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They need to better promote the fact that there's a setting to have Windows do the first time setup ("your files are where you left them") that you normally have to wait for when you log in after an upgrade automatically in the background after the upgrade without waiting for your log in. I don't mind upgrades nearly as much without the unexpected several minute wait when I log in.
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