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This game has got to take place in pre-flood Hyrule in the Wind Waker timeline, right? - Hyrule has been mostly destroyed by Ganon. - Hyrule castle is sealed away ftom the rest of Hyrule. - Koroks are farting about. - Slightly similar art styles. - The Hyrule landscape straight-up looks like it did in Wind Waker, minus the spire-like mountains. If this is true, will this game end with the flooding of Hyrule? Or perhaps it doesn't and we get another prong on the timeline.
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Jellymouth posted:This game has got to take place in pre-flood Hyrule in the Wind Waker timeline, right? A lot of people were thinking it was post-drain rather than pre-flood. My personal wild guess was that this Link was a stasis'd Windwaker Link all grown up (since the voice mentions he needs to be Hyrule's light "again" implying it's a previous hero). Though that would raise the question about what happened to New Hyrule. Pre-flood is possible, I guess, but I'm skeptical of any Zelda ending as a tragedy. It's just not the way the series works. I guess LA was sort of a tragedy? But that game is also a weird tonally different sequel like MM.
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Jun 24, 2016 19:06
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BotW is a merger of all three timelines.
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Jellymouth posted:This game has got to take place in pre-flood Hyrule in the Wind Waker timeline, right? This is gonna be the timeline where Link came out of stasis in time to kick Calamity Ganon's rear end and thereby eliminate the need for the goddesses the flood the world. It explains a lot about how Wind Waker Link was just some shmuck who had to dredge his triforce up from the sea floor in chunks, instead of just being reincarnated with it; the previous Link was still in cryostasis at the bottom of the ocean. Zelda timeline is gonna be an asterisk with Skyward Sword in the dead center by the time Nintendo runs out of steam 
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Jun 24, 2016 19:09
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This is the "Groose wins the Skyloft Academy race" timeline.
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Jun 24, 2016 19:15
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Jonas Albrecht posted:BotW is a merger of all three timelines. Give me Crisis on Infinite Hyrules.
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Jun 24, 2016 19:17
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Jsor posted:This is the "Groose wins the Skyloft Academy race" timeline. Detective No. 27 posted:Give me Crisis on Infinite Hyrules. You guys are just describing Hyrule Warriors 2, now with playable Groose.
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Jun 24, 2016 19:19
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Jonas Albrecht posted:BotW is a merger of all three timelines. Welcome to Best of the Worst, we watch three of the worst Zelda timelines and determine which one is the Best of the Worst
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Jun 24, 2016 19:48
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This game has me pretty excited for some Zelda action, but I haven't actually played a Zelda game since Links Awakening! My roomate has a WiiU. Is the Twilight Princess HD thing worth it?
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Jun 24, 2016 20:18
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OB_Juan posted:This game has me pretty excited for some Zelda action, but I haven't actually played a Zelda game since Links Awakening! It might be? Twilight Princess is a weird animal. I think it's likely you'll like it just fine if it's your first time through. It has really neat dungeons, and a lot of really charming side-characters. The prologue/tutorial is like enormously long, though, and seems to turn a lot of people off of the game.
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Jun 24, 2016 20:20
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This game is giving me Phantom Pain vibes, and while I don't think anything too bad will be left on the cutting-room floor, I wonder how the hell are they going to follow up after the open-world concept? Could this be like a sendoff game?
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Jun 24, 2016 20:31
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OB_Juan posted:This game has me pretty excited for some Zelda action, but I haven't actually played a Zelda game since Links Awakening! Yes. TP is good and the HD version cuts out a few annoying bits.
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Jun 24, 2016 20:38
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deadly_pudding posted:It might be? Twilight Princess is a weird animal. I think it's likely you'll like it just fine if it's your first time through. It has really neat dungeons, and a lot of really charming side-characters. The prologue/tutorial is like enormously long, though, and seems to turn a lot of people off of the game. SeANMcBAY posted:Yes. TP is good and the HD version cuts out a few annoying bits. Prologues/Tutorials normally don't bother me. I do prefer fewer annoying bits. Also, I kinda think the amiibo thing is neat. Ordered!
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Inspector Gesicht posted:This game is giving me Phantom Pain vibes, and while I don't think anything too bad will be left on the cutting-room floor, I wonder how the hell are they going to follow up after the open-world concept? Could this be like a sendoff game? It'll follow the nostalgic cycle pattern. The next game will be the most ambitious sidescroller ever. In twenty years, we'll get to the Skyward Sword nostalgia. They will make the biggest open world game every, 1000x bigger than Breath of the Wild, but you won't get to explore any of it and be railroaded on a set straight path.
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Inspector Gesicht posted:This game is giving me Phantom Pain vibes, and while I don't think anything too bad will be left on the cutting-room floor, I wonder how the hell are they going to follow up after the open-world concept? Could this be like a sendoff game? I don't know, man. Mario went to capital-S Space for the Galaxy series and after the fact I kinda felt like they painted themselves into a corner with that move. But then they came out with 3D world and it turns out the answer to "where you go from space" is "back the way you came." So, probably just a return to form, but better.
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Jun 24, 2016 20:43
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I think, depending on how BOTW actually turns out, the best option might be to do a semi-sequel with the same assets, like OOT to MM, to put off the time and cost of redeveloping all this poo poo again. A Majora's Mask style sequel could focus on depth rather than breadth and have this rugged do-anything survivalist Link with his vast arsenal of tricks put into a somewhat smaller and focused world filled with people on a Majora's Mask-style schedule and routine.
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Jun 24, 2016 21:05
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Acne Rain posted:Welcome to Best of the Worst, we watch three of the worst Zelda timelines and determine which one is the Best of the Worst Ganon's evil plan for this one is to merge the timelines, causing Hyrule to have portals to the dark world, be covered in twilight, and be flooded at the same time as reality upon reality crashes together. Link, being a robot, must visit all of these crisis realities and defeat their corresponding (now corrupt) Links to capture their souls and reinforce himself with them so that he has the Link-soul power to reassemble the Triforce and defeat meta-Ganon, who is an entity composed of every Ganon incarnation fused together. Once it's all over, Hyrule is in a semi-permanent state of temporal and dimensional flux, and Zelda realizes her family is dead and ascends the throne as transient space queen. Hire me Nintendo.
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BurntCornMuffin posted:Ganon's evil plan for this one is to merge the timelines, causing Hyrule to have portals to the dark world, be covered in twilight, and be flooded at the same time as reality upon reality crashes together. Link, being a robot, must visit all of these crisis realities and defeat their corresponding (now corrupt) Links to capture their souls and reinforce himself with them so that he has the Link-soul power to reassemble the Triforce and defeat meta-Ganon, who is an entity composed of every Ganon incarnation fused together. Once it's all over, Hyrule is in a semi-permanent state of temporal and dimensional flux, and Zelda realizes her family is dead and ascends the throne as transient space queen. This, but unironically. I want a scene where all the Ganons fuse together, and start to turn back into Demise, only to have Ganondorf, the universe's most headstrong motherfuck, just kind of eat Demise from inside and turn back into some kind of ridiculous ur-Ganon.
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Zelda Boom.
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OB_Juan posted:This game has me pretty excited for some Zelda action, but I haven't actually played a Zelda game since Links Awakening! I would say no, but the dog makes it worth it. Regardless if you enjoy TPHD or not get Wind Waker HD afterwards for even better Zelda adventuring.
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Jun 24, 2016 21:33
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Twilight Princess is great and you should play it
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Jun 24, 2016 21:36
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Hedrigall posted:Someone overlaid the map with the one on the gamepad screen from the first gameplay reveal ages ago. This map is giving me Zelda 1 vibes with the position of the ocean on the east/southeast coasts and that lake conspicuously placed in the middle south area. Could just be a coincidence though, I dunno. I like the theory that it's post-flood WW Hyrule. I haven't been this excited about a new Zelda game in years, holy poo poo.
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Jun 24, 2016 21:52
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I really hope there's a swimming mechanic even close to the one in Majora's Mask.
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Harrow posted:What's interesting is that this one is a return to form--just one that's a very long time coming. In a lot of ways, BotW probably represents what they wish they could've done with Zelda in the first place. Speaking of which, I think I heard a rumor that it's a remake of the original Zelda. And another rumor that it's in the "Ganon Wins" timeline. But enough about that, I wonder if they'll bring the hook/clawshot back? It could be fun.
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Jun 24, 2016 22:01
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They will never stop making Zelda, and that brings me much comfort.
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Exclusive Screenshot Proves New Zelda Takes Place Post-Windwaker:
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Ammat The Ankh posted:Exclusive Screenshot Proves New Zelda Takes Place Post-Windwaker: Majestic.
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ArmyOfMidgets posted:I would say no, but the dog makes it worth it. Regardless if you enjoy TPHD or not get Wind Waker HD afterwards for even better Zelda adventuring. Charlie Bobson posted:Twilight Princess is great and you should play it Well, I already ordered it, so I may as well play it. I watched some friends play through Wind Waker HD. It was good. Wasn't sold on the art style at first, but the facial expressions owned owned owned. We also played a LOT of Hyrule Warriors, which kinda half-counts. Will report back after playing some.
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OB_Juan posted:Well, I already ordered it, so I may as well play it. I watched some friends play through Wind Waker HD. It was good. Wasn't sold on the art style at first, but the facial expressions owned owned owned. We also played a LOT of Hyrule Warriors, which kinda half-counts. That's the entirety of public opinion on Windwaker's art style prerelease. "Oh that looks so bad and cartoony" until you see it in action and fall in love.
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Ammat The Ankh posted:Exclusive Screenshot Proves New Zelda Takes Place Post-Windwaker: I want this to be a real game. A Link has to pull the Master Sword to defeat what he thinks is the Big Bad, but by pulling the Master Sword he actually summons/revives/whatevers Ganon, who makes things worse. (People would probably hate it as a "super long intro/prologue" but I think the bait/switch and everything being Links fault and now he has to fix it would be cool)
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Jsor posted:A lot of people were thinking it was post-drain rather than pre-flood. My personal wild guess was that this Link was a stasis'd Windwaker Link all grown up (since the voice mentions he needs to be Hyrule's light "again" implying it's a previous hero). Though that would raise the question about what happened to New Hyrule. My stab at this is that it's actually the furthest along in the timeline on the path that got us the first two NES games. That this one takes place a century or two after Adventure of Link. My justification for this is that LoZ and AoL take place in a Hyrule that is pretty clearly in serious decline. Like, on the way out as a civilization decline.
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Arcon posted:I want this to be a real game. A Link has to pull the Master Sword to defeat what he thinks is the Big Bad, but by pulling the Master Sword he actually summons/revives/whatevers Ganon, who makes things worse. (People would probably hate it as a "super long intro/prologue" but I think the bait/switch and everything being Links fault and now he has to fix it would be cool) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qt1NBnq35xY&t=304s
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Arcon posted:I want this to be a real game. A Link has to pull the Master Sword to defeat what he thinks is the Big Bad, but by pulling the Master Sword he actually summons/revives/whatevers Ganon, who makes things worse. (People would probably hate it as a "super long intro/prologue" but I think the bait/switch and everything being Links fault and now he has to fix it would be cool) I realize that there are plenty of real-world limitations that prevented them from even trying to attempt something like this, but this would have been perfect in the Oracle pairs. Defeat the big bad of one game, which somehow revives Ganon, and then move on to the other game in your quest to stop him.
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Well yeah, that let Ganondorf do more stuff, but he was already a present threat and given enough time could still screw with Hyrule pretty bad quiggy posted:I realize that there are plenty of real-world limitations that prevented them from even trying to attempt something like this, but this would have been perfect in the Oracle pairs. Defeat the big bad of one game, which somehow revives Ganon, and then move on to the other game in your quest to stop him. Yeah something like this would be cool. They could probably do something like that now, given how that last Fire Emblem had its storyline broken up into 2 cart versions and a 3rd DLC-style thing. Arcon fucked around with this message at 23:38 on Jun 24, 2016 |
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Jonas Albrecht posted:BotW is a merger of all three timelines. Turn A Zelda
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Ammat The Ankh posted:Exclusive Screenshot Proves New Zelda Takes Place Post-Windwaker: Heeeeeere's Ganon!! Also I think it's funny that so much fanart for this has Link running around in his undershorts.
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Arcon posted:I want this to be a real game. A Link has to pull the Master Sword to defeat what he thinks is the Big Bad, but by pulling the Master Sword he actually summons/revives/whatevers Ganon, who makes things worse. (People would probably hate it as a "super long intro/prologue" but I think the bait/switch and everything being Links fault and now he has to fix it would be cool) this is exactly what happens in ocarina
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Arcon posted:I want this to be a real game. A Link has to pull the Master Sword to defeat what he thinks is the Big Bad, but by pulling the Master Sword he actually summons/revives/whatevers Ganon, who makes things worse. (People would probably hate it as a "super long intro/prologue" but I think the bait/switch and everything being Links fault and now he has to fix it would be cool) This is exactly what happens in Hyrule Warriors. The Master Sword is the final seal on Ganondorf's "spirit," which is freed once Link pulls it to fight the invading sorceress.
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romanowski posted:this is exactly what happens in ocarina Conversely, this makes it very likely to happen in a future Zelda game. The whole "three dungeons, major twist that creates new goal, rest of the game" structure has been a staple since LttP after all, right?
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