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TheBlandName
Feb 5, 2012

AbrahamLincolnLog posted:

Mentioned Project Zomboid in another thread, was told to come check out this game.

Holy poo poo this is awesome.

Though the OP states that Glass Jaw is one of the better perks to take for a beginner, but it seems that my head takes the most damage of all my body parts in a physical fight, and so far having that lower HP there has gotten me killed once. Am I missing something?

That part of the OP has always been bad info that's been mis-communicated from the good info that (at least once upon a time): if you're not taking any other negative traits NOR boosting your strength, glass jaw + 3 points of strength makes your character generally better in exchange for like -3 head HP or something like that.

Note how incredibly specific that situation is.

EDIT: Still, it's a situation that came up a lot in new players' builds.

TheBlandName fucked around with this message at 05:06 on Jun 25, 2016

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Shalebridge Cradle
Apr 23, 2008


What happens when you go over the limit of bionics in a slot? I have 112/80 in my torso right now and I don't see any negative effects. Also I don't really want to uninstall anything so I just hope its nothing.

Mzbundifund
Nov 5, 2011

I'm afraid so.

AbrahamLincolnLog posted:

Just found a car that was already running, just sitting in a parking lot. Had a few bottles of gas with me, filled it up, and stole the fucker.

Was there an NPC near by I should have looked for, or do some cars just spawn turned on?

You made a good move and got a free car. The thing about Cataclysm is the apocalypse happened literally yesterday which is why the fridges are full of perishables and some abandoned cars are still running.

Shalebridge Cradle posted:

What happens when you go over the limit of bionics in a slot? I have 112/80 in my torso right now and I don't see any negative effects. Also I don't really want to uninstall anything so I just hope its nothing.

I'm a few versions behind since I don't like to update mid-save file, so keep that in mind when I say I think they're still experimenting with bionic limits and right now it's just a vestigial UI feature that has no gameplay effects.

goatsestretchgoals
Jun 4, 2011

The Lone Badger posted:

It works, you just have to throw something heavy.

I threw a 1911 at it (already had a better gun), those are fairly heavy.

goatsestretchgoals
Jun 4, 2011

Shalebridge Cradle posted:

What happens when you go over the limit of bionics in a slot? I have 112/80 in my torso right now and I don't see any negative effects. Also I don't really want to uninstall anything so I just hope its nothing.

The limit isn't implemented yet as of past couple days, so that display was just informational.

Turtlicious
Sep 17, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
what was the last experimental that had refill working also would you guys like a new guide or is someone working on I was thinking of maintaining a G Did that good could comment / add too

goatsestretchgoals
Jun 4, 2011

Turtlicious posted:

what was the last experimental that had refill working also would you guys like a new guide or is someone working on I was thinking of maintaining a G Did that good could comment / add too

only if you type the guide from your phone

Telsa Cola
Aug 19, 2011

No... this is all wrong... this whole operation has just gone completely sidewaysface

Turtlicious posted:

what was the last experimental that had refill working also would you guys like a new guide or is someone working on I was thinking of maintaining a G Did that good could comment / add too

Are we sure refill is not working? I picked up ab experimental maybe 4 days ago and it works just fine.

Inexplicable Humblebrag
Sep 20, 2003

same

but if you find a car with a dead battery why not take the battery out and replace it with a battery from a car that has charge

once you find enough gas, providing your alternator's + battery's not too damaged, you can just idle the car overnight and fill up on juice easy.

if your alternator and battery are yellow, you should always pop them out and replace them, as it requires less mechanics to switch out than it does to repair. also, always go for truck rather than car alts/batts, the extra capacity and charge rate more than makes up for the slight fuel inefficiency and speed decrease of your vehicle

megalodong
Mar 11, 2008

Are npcs a good thing to enable now? i'm on whatever's the latest build as of like 2 days ago. There's a lot of conflicting info out there about them and a lot of it sounds like it's fairly outdated.

The Lone Badger
Sep 24, 2007

Static NPCs ok. Do not turn on dynamic NPCs.

megalodong
Mar 11, 2008

The Lone Badger posted:

Static NPCs ok. Do not turn on dynamic NPCs.

Thanks.

Also why are there furry recipes showing up.

nftyw
Dec 27, 2006

It is a game... where you will put your life on the line.
Lipstick Apathy
Someone is a furry and the devs don't care enough to remove it I guess. I'm pretty sure there are mods that you can enable to remove those things when generating the world, as it stands you can just ignore them and chop up any wolf suits into rags and burn them. Or if you want to brave the icy cold, maybe even put one on (gasp how horrifying!) because they are, well, very warm, thick, full body suits.

Inexplicable Humblebrag
Sep 20, 2003

nftyw posted:

maybe even put one on (gasp how horrifying!)

furry spotted

Tiler Kiwi
Feb 26, 2011
you can also mutate into a fox-wolf-cat hybrid or some poo poo

tooterfish
Jul 13, 2013

Telsa Cola posted:

Are we sure refill is not working? I picked up ab experimental maybe 4 days ago and it works just fine.
Funnily enough, it broke about three days ago.

They've been unfucking and cleaning up a lot of the vehicle construction code, some things were just overlooked (integrated toolset could no longer be used to weld cars for a while either).

goatsestretchgoals
Jun 4, 2011

DOWN JACKET FETISH posted:

same

but if you find a car with a dead battery why not take the battery out and replace it with a battery from a car that has charge

once you find enough gas, providing your alternator's + battery's not too damaged, you can just idle the car overnight and fill up on juice easy.

if your alternator and battery are yellow, you should always pop them out and replace them, as it requires less mechanics to switch out than it does to repair. also, always go for truck rather than car alts/batts, the extra capacity and charge rate more than makes up for the slight fuel inefficiency and speed decrease of your vehicle

Or go for both, you can stack truck/car/motorcycle batteries in any tile, and storage battery in any tile that doesn't have a tank.

E: And also truck/car/motorcycle alternators on any non-electric engine, I assume 7.5kW alternator works the same but haven't found one in a supercar game yet.

goatsestretchgoals fucked around with this message at 17:07 on Jun 25, 2016

Angry Diplomat
Nov 7, 2009

Winner of the TSR Memorial Award for Excellence In Grogging
Modifying an expanded SWAT truck with an enhanced electric engine (and later on, two of them), armoured monster truck tires, as many upgraded solar panels as I could fit, and 3-4 batteries on every non-edge tile allowed me to create a solar-powered behemoth helltank with effectively infinite energy. This thing could simultaneously run a pair of laser cannons, multiple internal charging stations, dual enhanced electric engines, a bunch of floodlights, and every type of onboard workshop 24 hours a day for an entire winter - all while hauling around and regularly repairing tons upon tons of extremely heavily armoured survivorbus stacked to the roof with crafting materials, gold bars, stacks of money, guns, porn, vibrators, and drugs - without losing more than 2-3% of its total charge at most.

What I'm saying is that creating a self-sustaining, all-purpose combination tank/RV is how you win this game, and battery stacking is an important part of that.

Coolguye
Jul 6, 2011

Required by his programming!

AbrahamLincolnLog posted:

Mentioned Project Zomboid in another thread, was told to come check out this game.

Holy poo poo this is awesome.
welcome, brother, it is good to have you with us.

palamedes
Mar 9, 2008

Angry Diplomat posted:

What I'm saying is that creating a self-sustaining, all-purpose combination tank/RV is how you win this game, and battery stacking is an important part of that.

I've never had trouble getting by with just storage batteries. A storage battery has around 13x the capacity of car battery + motorbike battery in current experimental. That's like 90% of the capacity in a battery stacked vehicle.

This will probably still hold truish when they get around to rebalancing storage batteries. A quick look at modern storage batteries says you get 5x or 6x the kWh of a car battery at around 4x the weight. So adding car and motorbike batteries will give you something like 20% extra capacity. Nice, but not vital.

goatsestretchgoals
Jun 4, 2011

Phoneposting but as of a couple months ago it was 15k motorcycle, 35k(?) car, 50k truck, and 100k storage. So you can almost double per-tile capacity by stacking motorcycle/car/truck batteries. This was more important to my game style because my go to supercar is 5x7, with 14 of those tiles as bumpers.

Sage Grimm
Feb 18, 2013

Let's go explorin' little dude!
What, you never do dangerous power-slides? That's a shame.

palamedes
Mar 9, 2008

bitcoin bastard posted:

Phoneposting but as of a couple months ago it was 15k motorcycle, 35k(?) car, 50k truck, and 100k storage. So you can almost double per-tile capacity by stacking motorcycle/car/truck batteries. This was more important to my game style because my go to supercar is 5x7, with 14 of those tiles as bumpers.

There have been a lot of rebalances and migrations since then. https://github.com/CleverRaven/Cataclysm-DDA/commit/a0f75d284192a2fe20dffe25f287f119c8827b10 on March 11 changed those comparison rates, then a bunch of stuff in https://github.com/CleverRaven/Cataclysm-DDA/commits/1d5027547d204632bb51d1090b6715fb383f9a43/data/json/items/vehicle/battery.json messed with it some more.

But yeah stacking gets more useful if you're constrained on space. I rarely am but that's a killdozer design decision on my part.

Telsa Cola
Aug 19, 2011

No... this is all wrong... this whole operation has just gone completely sidewaysface
Finding a perfect condition light tank in my starting town has been the best thing ever. I need to find something to test the 120mm cannon on.

Roobanguy
May 31, 2011

so can you die from not sleeping for like 5 days because you drank around 30 cups of atomic coffee, other than the obvious radiation poisoning? i kinda don't want to lose this character cause i had a real good start by finding an atomic coffee maker and lamp, along with a working motorcycle.

Shalebridge Cradle
Apr 23, 2008


Roobanguy posted:

so can you die from not sleeping for like 5 days because you drank around 30 cups of atomic coffee, other than the obvious radiation poisoning? i kinda don't want to lose this character cause i had a real good start by finding an atomic coffee maker and lamp, along with a working motorcycle.

I don't think so. If you're really tired the game usually just just forces you to fall asleep.

That can obviously happen at a very inopportune time though.

goatsestretchgoals
Jun 4, 2011

Shalebridge Cradle posted:

I don't think so. If you're really tired the game usually just just forces you to fall asleep.

That can obviously happen at a very inopportune time though.

Not sure about atomic coffee but I caught some disease where the pain/coughing prevented me from sleeping and I spent an entire season sleeping for 30m at a time until I passed out and slept for 4 hours.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

bitcoin bastard posted:

Not sure about atomic coffee but I caught some disease where the pain/coughing prevented me from sleeping and I spent an entire season sleeping for 30m at a time until I passed out and slept for 4 hours.

This is stupid but I believe what wakes you up when you cough is actually the noise it makes.

So if you dose yourself with painkillers and put some earplugs in you should be able to sleep better.

Synthbuttrange
May 6, 2007

Tiler Kiwi posted:

you can also mutate into a fox-wolf-cat hybrid or some poo poo

Yes but if you do that you cannot put on a furry suit.

It is quite the pickle.

goatsestretchgoals
Jun 4, 2011

OwlFancier posted:

This is stupid but I believe what wakes you up when you cough is actually the noise it makes.

So if you dose yourself with painkillers and put some earplugs in you should be able to sleep better.

TBH it makes sense, I've kept myself awake coughing before, that said once I got to what I would consider 'Dead Tired' ingame status, I was out for 12 hours.

e:

SynthOrange posted:

Yes but if you do that you cannot put on a furry suit.

It is quite the pickle.

If you already have cat ears in the post apocalypse, do you really need a Tumblr convention to confirm your life decisions?

fake edit part deux: Now I want a mutagen support group NPC spawn.

bitcoinbastard, just put down the gas tank filled with mutagen, life gets better
*chugs mutagen, gets improved night vision*
drat straight

goatsestretchgoals fucked around with this message at 09:11 on Jun 26, 2016

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

bitcoin bastard posted:

TBH it makes sense, I've kept myself awake coughing before, that said once I got to what I would consider 'Dead Tired' ingame status, I was out for 12 hours.

Yeah but I assume that what kept you up wasn't the noise of the coughing, rather than the fact that your chest is heaving.

If you put a pair of ear defenders on it wouldn't alleviate the symptoms of a cough.

goatsestretchgoals
Jun 4, 2011

OwlFancier posted:

Yeah but I assume that what kept you up wasn't the noise of the coughing, rather than the fact that your chest is heaving.

If you put a pair of ear defenders on it wouldn't alleviate the symptoms of a cough.

True but on a truly poo poo cold you eventually just end up passing the gently caress out because you're really really tired.

Dead tired is accurate but the inability to sleep is not.

E: Leaving this here because multiple levels of common cold is what got us the current vitamin system. Please don't.

goatsestretchgoals fucked around with this message at 12:42 on Jun 26, 2016

tooterfish
Jul 13, 2013

SynthOrange posted:

Yes but if you do that you cannot put on a furry suit.

It is quite the pickle.
They should leave furry suits in, but give them the filthy tag.

Jay-Zeus
Jan 5, 2004
I don't believe it!
Fun Shoe
Anyone else experiencing issues with the scraps of metal not stacking? It looks like charges now, I can't repair my weapons. Also if you move partial piles/charges using the advanced inventory, you lose the remaining bunch.

Edit: Appears to only be an issue with the awl spear. Has anyone repaired this weapon?

Jay-Zeus fucked around with this message at 16:10 on Jun 26, 2016

Marenghi
Oct 16, 2008

Don't trust the liberals,
they will betray you

bitcoin bastard posted:

Not sure about atomic coffee but I caught some disease where the pain/coughing prevented me from sleeping and I spent an entire season sleeping for 30m at a time until I passed out and slept for 4 hours.

If it's like the standard cold you could get in the game then drowsy cough syrup will let you sleep longer than 30 minutes. Mix with alcohol if needed.

palamedes
Mar 9, 2008

Roobanguy posted:

so can you die from not sleeping for like 5 days because you drank around 30 cups of atomic coffee, other than the obvious radiation poisoning? i kinda don't want to lose this character cause i had a real good start by finding an atomic coffee maker and lamp, along with a working motorcycle.

Sleeplessness won't kill you, but atomic coffee is powerful enough to be an overdose risk. I think chugging 4 or 5 of them at once will give you a stimulant heart attack.

Mister Bates
Aug 4, 2010
I started as a Black Belt with decent strength and karate, then almost immediately found a zweihander. Would it be better for me to keep using unarmed (with the 8 melee/8 unarmed skill I started with), or use this ridiculously-damaging sword (with 8 melee but zero weapon-specific skill)?

Sage Grimm
Feb 18, 2013

Let's go explorin' little dude!
Do you want to be a Highlander or a Karatemans? Since both are good enough options to survive the apocalypse, it's only your "story" that makes a difference.

Artificer
Apr 8, 2010

You're going to try ponies and you're. Going. To. LOVE. ME!!
Baseballing zombies across the screen with the Zwei is fun.

But jackie channing your way across a crowd is nice too.

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Michaellaneous
Oct 30, 2013

If I finish reading a skillbook and it says "You learned everything you can", but a bunch of recipes are still grey.
Do I have to read it longer?

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