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Moatillata posted:Also a second question for those of you who played the previous shine game - what was the name of the scum? Was it the feds or was it another outfit? Yes. As in they were both present, we had two scum teams.
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##vote Li DawnyLi Dawny posted:Making one post for my finishing catching up, how did you post so much while I slept? Anyway, I'm always down for an Adahn lynch, and this case is pretty enticing, because I've played as scum with him and he buckles down on previous statements like they're law when there's pressure on him...and that's what I see right now. LD, in order: (a) puts out Adahn as a scum read (b) agrees with ANarc that Infi (!) / Adahn (?) is a town slapfight (c) questions why there are so many votes out without cases (while excusing Infi for it) then.. Li Dawny posted:Okay, we need to all figure out who we are/are not willing to vote today because I'm having genuine concern over if we're going to get a lynch in today. (d) without making any cases, frets that we might not get a lynch before deadline (e) moves to Glowku with a sort of resignation LD - what's your read on Adahn right now? If you thought he was acting consistent with his scum game, why didn't you case him instead of moving to Glowku?
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# ? Jun 27, 2016 22:47 |
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VivaNova posted:Best votes: Infin, AR, AA, MG. As much as I don't want Viva to be scum , I feel like this like of thinking is suspicious, like Viva was acknowledging that Infi was scummy but trying to dissuade people from voting for him. Viva - is AA still your strongest read?
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# ? Jun 27, 2016 22:58 |
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Murmur Twin posted:##vote Li Dawny I didn't case Adahn because there weren't even enough active players to pull off a lynch on Adahn, so what was the point? So that today you could say that I supported Infi's arguments so I must be his scumbro? I know that's what you're reaching for with my early votes comment, when I only excused Infi from it because of his living on the other side of the globe. And after all the crap that went down last night I'm not sure on Adahn anymore, would Infi bus a scumbro like that, or maybe one of them (Adahn/Infi) is 3p, because any line of thought concerning Infi and Adahn is WIFOM af. Adahn on his own is behaving pretty scummy, or was yesterday (day 1), but I can only meta argue that and the last time I did Adahn was rather rude, so I won't do it again.
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# ? Jun 27, 2016 22:59 |
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Anomalous Amalgam posted:##vote ANarc This is such an OMGUS. Me and TQ both think you're scum. TQ unvotes and now you vote me. Oh please. If you actually think I'm scum, make a case. Btw I don't believe your shine role claim. Since roles are in the OP it's really easy to just claim whatever you want, and if you are scum, you can obviously say you cleared someone because you guys know who isn't scum.
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# ? Jun 27, 2016 23:01 |
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well wouldnt someone be able to cc that because id presume that somebody would choose the cop role
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# ? Jun 27, 2016 23:04 |
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Li Dawny posted:I didn't case Adahn because there weren't even enough active players to pull off a lynch on Adahn, so what was the point? So that today you could say that I supported Infi's arguments so I must be his scumbro? I know that's what you're reaching for with my early votes comment, when I only excused Infi from it because of his living on the other side of the globe. And after all the crap that went down last night I'm not sure on Adahn anymore, would Infi bus a scumbro like that, or maybe one of them (Adahn/Infi) is 3p, because any line of thought concerning Infi and Adahn is WIFOM af. Adahn on his own is behaving pretty scummy, or was yesterday (day 1), but I can only meta argue that and the last time I did Adahn was rather rude, so I won't do it again. Fair enough, is there anyone you think is particularly suspicious at this point in time?
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# ? Jun 27, 2016 23:05 |
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In Shine 1, Jimson came off as really scummy to me (by posting a ton) and ended up being town. This game he seems way more reserved. I can't believe I'm arguing that Jimson might be scum because he's not acting as scummy as he usually does, but it's on my mind so I figured I'd put it out there.
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# ? Jun 27, 2016 23:08 |
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flerp posted:well wouldnt someone be able to cc that because id presume that somebody would choose the cop role why would a cop cc here
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# ? Jun 27, 2016 23:10 |
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to kill a scumbo fake claiming cop????
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# ? Jun 27, 2016 23:11 |
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I think more than one person can have the same shine role. Either that or someone in this thread is lying.
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# ? Jun 27, 2016 23:15 |
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yeah i just had that thought but idk
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# ? Jun 27, 2016 23:16 |
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Moatillata posted:You guys are slapfighting and it's boring. Quid were you loved on the first day? Is anyone loved today? I was not. Dunno what happened with that, since Glowku flipped town.
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# ? Jun 27, 2016 23:16 |
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Only I'm actually a cop and crumbed it twice. Start of the game and before glowku claimed in case he was scum pushing a cop gambit.
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# ? Jun 27, 2016 23:17 |
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I'm seriously getting scum vibes from you ANarc, its more of a meta read admittedly. Same for TQ.
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# ? Jun 27, 2016 23:17 |
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Anomalous Amalgam posted:I'm seriously getting scum vibes from you ANarc, its more of a meta read admittedly. Same for TQ. Can you go into more detail?
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# ? Jun 27, 2016 23:19 |
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been out of commission today but i've kept up with the thread Anomalous Amalgam posted:I don't see any reason to not post this and I can't say much else until tonight busy work day filled with problems. this is suspicious, it feels like a planned attempt to use a shine cop claim to ameliorate the heat he built up with his arguments also i doubt there is more than one shine cop, at least a cop that uses shine to use that power, on the outfit side of things, so i would believe a cc
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# ? Jun 27, 2016 23:19 |
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Like I said, im fine dying. Im out of shine. Flying leatherman investigated outfit-aligned. Kill me and im good with it, because you scum will get scrutinized because of it.
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# ? Jun 27, 2016 23:23 |
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AnonymousNarcotics posted:I think more than one person can have the same shine role. Either that or someone in this thread is lying. this is basically the thing I am thinking of right now and the reason why I don't think a counterclaim in a setup with the shine variable is necessarily good
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# ? Jun 27, 2016 23:24 |
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Anomalous Amalgam posted:Like I said, im fine dying. you really shouldnt be
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# ? Jun 27, 2016 23:25 |
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flerp posted:you really shouldnt be He shouldn't be what? Fine dying or out of shine?
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# ? Jun 27, 2016 23:29 |
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flerp posted:you really shouldnt be Here's my reasoning. Could be another town cop given lottery format. Even if there isn't I confirmed at least one town It would be silly to keep me alive now that I'm outed because I would either need a a brewer and a doctor to follow me for me to be viable by night 3, when there are probably better candidates. And all that is provided the doctor has shine and there are town brewers left. so my confirmation by death if it comes to it will help town id scum that are pretty brazenly scum imo.
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# ? Jun 27, 2016 23:30 |
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AnonymousNarcotics posted:I think more than one person can have the same shine role. Either that or someone in this thread is lying. My guess is that there can be more than one brewer. I would imagine the other roles are one per.
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# ? Jun 27, 2016 23:37 |
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This feels again like a whole ton of setup spec and not a lot of scumhunting. I know I am guilty of contributing to this and have done jack poo poo to scum hunt personally, but we're basically letting scum sit around saying nothing.
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# ? Jun 27, 2016 23:57 |
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Quidnose posted:This feels again like a whole ton of setup spec and not a lot of scumhunting. I know I am guilty of contributing to this and have done jack poo poo to scum hunt personally, but we're basically letting scum sit around saying nothing. Peep my case on LD and let me know what you think?
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# ? Jun 28, 2016 00:00 |
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Quidnose posted:This feels again like a whole ton of setup spec and not a lot of scumhunting. I know I am guilty of contributing to this and have done jack poo poo to scum hunt personally, but we're basically letting scum sit around saying nothing. I agree, but I think we have hammered the same people over and over. I tend to believe AAs claim and I doubt that Adahn is scum. MMT has thrown some opinions out but nothing has gained traction. I was actually gonna call you out for your lack of scum hunting bc in previous games you have been so much more on it. Actually, this is deja vu all over again: Quidnose posted:I really think we should be scumhunting instead of blindly following lists of people who's alignments we do not know. This post reeks of capitalizing on this distraction and going after a whole bunch of chaindunks without taking any responsibility for doing so. Would vote FL. Also, this amount of low effort doesn't seem like you: Quidnose posted:Why did Glowku get all those votes in the beginning? Can someone remind me I don't feel like reading back Also one more question, who did you pick for your n0 friend-o? Quidnose posted:My pick breadcrumbed being loved so I think that did do it. Not sure what to make of Adahn announcing that to thread, that feels fairly town. Scum would have just left that alone until we thought we had hammered and hand't, most likely.
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# ? Jun 28, 2016 00:08 |
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Like I said earlier. I was going to case Quid hard today based on his play. But he's absolutely town this game so going after him is pointless.
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# ? Jun 28, 2016 00:12 |
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Adahn1986 posted:Like I said earlier. I was going to case Quid hard today based on his play. I'm just trying to get him t Yeah but maybe light a fire and get him to start quidnosing it up esp since he's not gonna last the night
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# ? Jun 28, 2016 00:14 |
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I'm re reading dongs now since he and JakeP are the only confirmed town we have to go on. He hits on TQ a little bit too (in-between pot shots at adahn). Also rereading reckless night vig it seems to me that if you target outfit it backfires and kills you instead. Leaving outfit alive. So my guess would be scum nk dongs, dongs has his assassin/strongman/Sammy the bull kill inf and then JakeP tries to nk quid who comes back outfit And backfires. Taking this logical leap (since looking at JakeP's posts it's pretty obv he thinks quid is scum) would clear quid and then adahn by association. rereading the whole interactions around the boss fest with this knowledge might yield some insight but I cant be hosed to do it right now bc of phone battery restrictions.
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# ? Jun 28, 2016 00:55 |
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Adahn is definitely town. Scum would withold the information about a night visit and just share it in the doc. Do we know if New York Family is scum or 3p?
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# ? Jun 28, 2016 01:22 |
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When I reread the flip I noticed it didn't say anything about being outfit aligned for infinitum. It makes me think that New York was scum since all Town related peeps are outfit aligned
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# ? Jun 28, 2016 01:26 |
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SirSamVimes posted:Adahn is definitely town. Scum would withold the information about a night visit and just share it in the doc. I would assume scum (first Shine game had two scumteams, plus the role of "boss" + the team name "family" to me implies multiple people in that group). SSV - How would knowing the answer to this affect your reads? It feels more like something scum would wonder than something town would wonder.
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# ? Jun 28, 2016 01:33 |
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Adahn1986 posted:I just think it's strange that you spent a few posts talking about how infinitum was a boss, but Infinitum jumped on ME for having 'inside information' and being able to draw conclusions from Dongsbot's revelations. Murmur Twin posted:As much as I don't want Viva to be scum , I feel like this like of thinking is suspicious, like Viva was acknowledging that Infi was scummy but trying to dissuade people from voting for him. 1. I felt there was a decent chance he wouldn't make it through the night-bosses want to off each other 2. his role was confusing things for me because I understood why he might have motivation to misrepresent his info as a town boss I really wanted people to respond to and discuss my Infini points, but if anyone did I missed it. I honestly don't have enough time for these games anymore and it makes me sad. Probably, AA still is but he did just claim cop so idk. I didn't read the end of yesterday yet. Absurd Revolver posted:also i doubt there is more than one shine cop, at least a cop that uses shine to use that power, on the outfit side of things, so i would believe a cc
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# ? Jun 28, 2016 01:48 |
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Murmur Twin posted:I would assume scum (first Shine game had two scumteams, plus the role of "boss" + the team name "family" to me implies multiple people in that group). The reason I'm wondering this is as I mentioned before, I was in another game with the boss mechanic and in that setup the 3p boss becomes a second scumteam with the SK if he's the last one. I'd say it's beneficial to town to know whether or not we have a second scumteam on the field.
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# ? Jun 28, 2016 01:50 |
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SirSamVimes posted:The reason I'm wondering this is as I mentioned before, I was in another game with the boss mechanic and in that setup the 3p boss becomes a second scumteam with the SK if he's the last one. I believe it's highly probable or at least multiple 3p given the first game and the size of this game.
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# ? Jun 28, 2016 01:56 |
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I think the most information from a flip would be a TQ lynch based on what I've read so far
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# ? Jun 28, 2016 02:09 |
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Moatillata posted:I think the most information from a flip would be a TQ lynch based on what I've read so far So you don't think I'm scum but you want to lynch mean anyway?
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# ? Jun 28, 2016 02:10 |
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I'm probably spoiling the surprise here but I'm pretty sure the reason Inf didn't gun for me as hard D1 is because I didn't appear on either of the boss' lists. Stop trying to make up poo poo on me please.
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# ? Jun 28, 2016 02:17 |
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VivaNova posted:Huh. Infini did the same to me as well, though it was totally obvi he was claiming boss. If he really didn't jump on TQ for the same thing that's legit suspicious. Need to reread in context.
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# ? Jun 28, 2016 02:44 |
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Reread the end of the day yesterday: I previously worried about SSV, but I'm null on him now. I'm not sure its reasonable to assume that only town were involved in the lotto. AA dropped a vote on Infin at -30. Something I used to do as scum was drop a vote on a bro when it was obvi there was no chance to get any traction on him. It seems especially opportunistic since there seemed a decent chance Infin was gonna be killed soon. I still find AR's vote on adahn after infin's case to be the worst vote yesterday. Hal is def someone to watch.
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