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Fawf
Nov 5, 2009

It's Me, It's Me, It's DDD

drunk asian neighbor posted:

I unironically listen to the Casino Night remix sometimes, it's what real casino music should sound like if real casinos weren't horrifyingly depressing pits full of cheap booze, stale cigarette smoke and broken dreams (or if it was still the 1920's)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Ud432qsHww

I want to know more about the people who ironically listen to the Casino Night music.

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Lurdiak
Feb 26, 2006

I believe in a universe that doesn't care, and people that do.


It's unfortunate that the Casino Night DLC is a bad pinball mini-game instead of something cool.

The Colonel
Jun 8, 2013


I commute by bike!

Fawf posted:

I want to know more about the people who ironically listen to the Casino Night music.

it's me

Snow Cone Capone
Jul 31, 2003


Lurdiak posted:

It's unfortunate that the Casino Night DLC is a bad pinball mini-game instead of something cool.

:agreed: honestly though the entire rest of the game (barring a couple boss fights) is an absolute joy to play, I think Generations might actually be my favorite Sonic game

Fawf posted:

I want to know more about the people who ironically listen to the Casino Night music.

I meant more like "I don't care about the weird look my wife gives me when she catches me jamming out to video game music" but there is no doubt in my mind that "ironically listening to video game music" is a thing that has happened

e: actually I have an example and it is when a friend of mine tried to be edgy by driving slowly down the main road in town blasting Super Mario 1 music to "make fun of" people who drive around blasting rap or whatever. I don't get it either.

Snow Cone Capone fucked around with this message at 03:47 on Jun 28, 2016

Endorph
Jul 22, 2009

drunk asian neighbor posted:

:agreed: honestly though the entire rest of the game (barring a couple boss fights) is an absolute joy to play, I think Generations might actually be my favorite Sonic game


I meant more like "I don't care about the weird look my wife gives me when she catches me jamming out to video game music" but there is no doubt in my mind that "ironically listening to video game music" is a thing that has happened

e: actually I have an example and it is when a friend of mine tried to be edgy by driving slowly down the main road in town blasting Super Mario 1 music to "make fun of" people who drive around blasting rap or whatever. I don't get it either.
your friend is white, thats what it means

PaletteSwappedNinja
Jun 3, 2008

One Nation, Under God.

Lurdiak posted:

It's unfortunate that the Casino Night DLC is a bad pinball mini-game instead of something cool.

It's a real level in the 3DS version.

Lurdiak
Feb 26, 2006

I believe in a universe that doesn't care, and people that do.


PaletteSwappedNinja posted:

It's a real level in the 3DS version.

That doesn't help my Steam version out.

Snow Cone Capone
Jul 31, 2003


Is the 3DS one all 2-D levels?

At least the 3d games are almost uniformly bad, the 2d ones are totally hit-or-miss as far as quality. At least one of the Rush games was great, but at least one was really bad; Colors was good, Sonic 4 Eps 1 and 2 were hot garbage, etc.

PaletteSwappedNinja
Jun 3, 2008

One Nation, Under God.
Sonic Generations 3DS is 2.5D with classic and modern versions of each zone but in this case "modern" means Sonic Rush-style 2D with camera tricks but no true 3D. The classic physics are actually quite good and I think the early classic stages are 1:1 remakes from the original games. I wanna say they give Classic Sonic the homing attack the moment you enter the Dreamcast era for no other reason than Dimps, I guess.

Snow Cone Capone
Jul 31, 2003


PaletteSwappedNinja posted:

Sonic Generations 3DS is 2.5D with classic and modern versions of each zone but in this case "modern" means Sonic Rush-style 2D with camera tricks but no true 3D. The classic physics are actually quite good and I think the early classic stages are 1:1 remakes from the original games. I wanna say they give Classic Sonic the homing attack the moment you enter the Dreamcast era for no other reason than Dimps, I guess.

whats dimps precious

I should check that out when I get a 3DS, though TBH part of why I love Generations is that none of the stages are 1:1 remakes IIRC

PaletteSwappedNinja
Jun 3, 2008

One Nation, Under God.
Dimps is the studio that made all the GBA/DS/3DS games from Sonic Advance to Lost World 3DS, as well as Sonic 4 and parts of Unleashed Wii. They love the homing attack and forcing you to go fast at all times and crazy Sonic fans used to spend all their time complaining about the minutiae of their stage design because their brains don't work.

The Colonel
Jun 8, 2013


I commute by bike!
some dimps games are good but they have an issue with too many bottomless pits

Snow Cone Capone
Jul 31, 2003


The Colonel posted:

some dimps games are good but they have an issue with too many bottomless pits

Yeah, I'm pretty sure whichever of the Rush games I remember hating was in large part due to this

Dark_Tzitzimine
Oct 9, 2012

by R. Guyovich

The Colonel posted:

some dimps games are good but they have an issue with too many bottomless pits

Sonic Advance 2 was loving awesome :colbert:

Ventana
Mar 28, 2010

*Yosh intensifies*

PaletteSwappedNinja posted:

Sonic Generations 3DS is 2.5D with classic and modern versions of each zone but in this case "modern" means Sonic Rush-style 2D with camera tricks but no true 3D. The classic physics are actually quite good and I think the early classic stages are 1:1 remakes from the original games. I wanna say they give Classic Sonic the homing attack the moment you enter the Dreamcast era for no other reason than Dimps, I guess.

This + the Sonic Rush level is almost an exact copy of how it was in Sonic Rush for Modern Sonic.

It was weird that they didn't also copy the Tropical Resort level they already did for the DS Sonic Colors, but it worked out either way I guess.

Snow Cone Capone
Jul 31, 2003


I'm a huge fan of both Crisis City and Rooftop Run in Generations, and replaying them just now kind of makes me curious about 2006 and Unleashed. Were they really that bad? Heroes was not great but I still managed to have a good time with it.

The Colonel
Jun 8, 2013


I commute by bike!

drunk asian neighbor posted:

I'm a huge fan of both Crisis City and Rooftop Run in Generations, and replaying them just now kind of makes me curious about 2006 and Unleashed. Were they really that bad?

YES

ImpAtom
May 24, 2007

drunk asian neighbor posted:

I'm a huge fan of both Crisis City and Rooftop Run in Generations, and replaying them just now kind of makes me curious about 2006 and Unleashed. Were they really that bad? Heroes was not great but I still managed to have a good time with it.

2006 was THAT bad.

Unleashed really isn't, assuming you mean the 360/PS3 version. The Werehog levels suck but the Sonic levels are quite good.

Snow Cone Capone
Jul 31, 2003


Well that's a bummer.

Motto
Aug 3, 2013

If you're a PC player, I'm pretty sure you can mod the good parts of Unleashed into Generations.

Augus
Mar 9, 2015


Unleashed's daytime levels weren't very good. Unless you really like holding the square button and QTEs.

Snow Cone Capone
Jul 31, 2003


Motto posted:

If you're a PC player, I'm pretty sure you can mod the good parts of Unleashed into Generations.

holy poo poo tell me there are user-made levels for Generations

The Colonel
Jun 8, 2013


I commute by bike!
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=159333239

Snow Cone Capone
Jul 31, 2003



holy loving poo poo

holy loving poo poo

The Colonel
Jun 8, 2013


I commute by bike!
sonic games on pc have insanely extensive modding communities for being, well, loving sonic games

there's a mod for sonic adventure dx that lets you create a ghost of your fastest run through a level. there's an alternate version that saves every run and plays all of them at once

Jarogue
Nov 3, 2012


Dark_Tzitzimine posted:

Sonic Advance 2 was loving awesome :colbert:

Sonic Advance 3 was better.

The Colonel
Jun 8, 2013


I commute by bike!

PaletteSwappedNinja
Jun 3, 2008

One Nation, Under God.
Steering back to MM somewhat: Freedom Planet, The Least Bad Original The Character Fan Game is a Sonic-esque game that borrows a lot from MMX and other action games of that era, go play it on Wii U or PC if you're hankering for something to play after/instead of MN9.

gandlethorpe
Aug 16, 2008

:gowron::m10:
I love that this thread is mostly discussion about non-MM games.

Discendo Vox
Mar 21, 2013

This does not make sense when, again, aggregate indicia also indicate improvements. The belief that things are worse is false. It remains false.
The swearing-heavy retro job guy finished no miss buster only no damage runs of all the robot masters in the main series (aside from 7 and 8, and including Unlimited). Now he's started into the wily stages.

MM1 Wily 1 took him two days. At some point it seems like the challenge itself stopped being particularly difficult for him. His reflexes are unreal.

Kite Pride Worldwide
Apr 20, 2009



Turns out Golden Beck is Challenge Mode only :geno:

Lurdiak
Feb 26, 2006

I believe in a universe that doesn't care, and people that do.


Alabaster White posted:

Turns out Golden Beck is Challenge Mode only :geno:

What? No it's not. You can go in the options at any time and change the outfit.

It's Retro Hero that's locked behind bullshit.

Black Mage Knight
Jan 25, 2012

stop biting my cape
My favorite thing is that Retro Hero, the ugliest costume, is only usable in Maniac, the worst difficulty (no-health).

Lurdiak
Feb 26, 2006

I believe in a universe that doesn't care, and people that do.


I like retro hero, it changes the pew pew sounds.

al-azad
May 28, 2009



PaletteSwappedNinja posted:

Steering back to MM somewhat: Freedom Planet, The Least Bad Original The Character Fan Game is a Sonic-esque game that borrows a lot from MMX and other action games of that era, go play it on Wii U or PC if you're hankering for something to play after/instead of MN9.

Steering back to Sonic chat, Tembo the Badass Elephant is what I imagine a modern Sonic game would be if Sonic Team was cryogenically frozen from 1995 to 2015 and told to immediately make a game on new hardware.

Snow Cone Capone
Jul 31, 2003


Does that mean it's really good and basically what Sonic 4 should have been? Because that game looks pretty great and I'm not sure how I missed a Game Freak / Sega collaboration

al-azad
May 28, 2009



drunk asian neighbor posted:

Does that mean it's really good and basically what Sonic 4 should have been? Because that game looks pretty great and I'm not sure how I missed a Game Freak / Sega collaboration

It's pretty decent. Like the old Sonic games it's less about pure speed and more about momentum. It rewards mastery of the levels and has all the ups and downs of a 16-bit platformer, like it's pretty difficult and repetitive at times. But once you learn the levels you hit a point where you charge through without stopping and the feeling is amazing.

At least check out the demo.

GimmickMan
Dec 27, 2011

Freedom Planet is the best Sonic game.

Real hurthling!
Sep 11, 2001




drunk asian neighbor posted:

Does that mean it's really good and basically what Sonic 4 should have been? Because that game looks pretty great and I'm not sure how I missed a Game Freak / Sega collaboration

Tembo has an issue with controls where its really easy to get the wrong move and plummet into a dimps pit because there are several moves that use the same buttons.

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GET IN THE ROBOT
Nov 28, 2007

JUST GET IN THE FUCKING ROBOT SHINJI
Tembo the Badass Elephant is pretty decent. An elephant who is also basically Rambo is a cool concept in itself. The game is a little short, though.

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