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SirSamVimes posted:honestly I have no clue. 
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Jun 28, 2016 04:41
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Quidnose posted:I'm confirmed town thanks~ If you believe the logical gymnastics that I had posted earlier then yes you and adahn are both conf town due to the fact that JakeP probably did vig you. That's kind of a leap of faith though.
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Jun 28, 2016 04:44
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Moatillata posted:If you believe the logical gymnastics that I had posted earlier then yes you and adahn are both conf town due to the fact that JakeP probably did vig you. That's kind of a leap of faith though. No. He's confirmed town because he's an "Honest Visitor" and someone claimed his visit. Unless you think he is scum buddies with the person who claimed it.
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Jun 28, 2016 04:46
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I mean sure, Jake probably also targeted him, but it really isn't important given the other thing.
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Jun 28, 2016 04:49
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Quidnose posted:I like MMT's Li Dawny case and I don't like that she commented when summoned but then didn't offer any reads when prompted. Dawny has been a tad soft this game. I've only seen her play twice, but when she was town she came out hard against her scum read (me) and when she was scum she lurked and tried to coast by and hope she escaped notice.
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Jun 28, 2016 04:54
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no i guess i didn't even want a cop to cc, i'm saying i'd just believe it on the basis that i believe it was one per, not whatever you asked for
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Jun 28, 2016 05:28
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i refuse to believe dawny is ever scum and i've only been wrong once
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Jun 28, 2016 05:28
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I don't think AA is scum and tbh it's scummy af to be pushing him right now. To me Li dawny is acting like she did in the game where she was scum so she is probably scum but you know, meta reads. Moatillata posted:Well because at this point the only confirmed town are JakeP and dongs. The glowku lynch gave us almost nothing to go on. I'm trying to think about worst case we lynch town but what would give is a better read on the game as a whole. Some people have a lot of polarized opinions surrounding them which when we see their flip it might help suss out others. I mean would could lynch someone that hasn't posted at all but we run the risk of just lynching lurker town And gaining nothing from it. This is a bad post. Yes of course Dongs is town, he already flipped so why even bother adding him to the confirmed town? In that case glowku is confirmed town too. I am interested to know , however, why jakeP is confirmed? Like this whole post was just words that are designed to look like you are contributing without actually saying anything. In fact looking back at your posting this game, that has pretty much been every one of your "effort" posts aside from a really bad case against quidnose where you didn't even vote him. Moatillata posted:I agree, but I think we have hammered the same people over and over. I tend to believe AAs claim and I doubt that Adahn is scum. MMT has thrown some opinions out but nothing has gained traction. I was actually gonna call you out for your lack of scum hunting bc in previous games you have been so much more on it. You are talking about which flips will give us the most information instead of talking about who is scum. Moatillata posted:I think the most information from a flip would be a TQ lynch based on what I've read so far You also do a little setup spec and try to get TQ's role info. ##vote Moat
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Jun 28, 2016 05:59
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Oh nevermind I didn't see jakep died Well, that makes your post double useless
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Jun 28, 2016 06:02
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Yeah Adahn, on reread it is even more obvious that you are wrong about this point on TQ:Adahn1986 posted:1. TQ quickly accepts that Infinitum is a boss, despite Infinitum trying to hide that and outright denying it. Reads as a scumslip to me. dongsbot 9000 posted:i was going to use my alternative boss power to kill infi but then i thought about it and infi is probably another outfit-aligned boss Truth Quark posted:Why would there be multiple town-aligned bosses that's stupid. It's obvious here even if he hadn't put two and two together on his own yet, he is responding directly to someone else saying it first.
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Jun 28, 2016 06:08
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CapitalistPig posted:I don't think AA is scum and tbh it's scummy af to be pushing him right now. I agree with this case. I actually got a lot of the same feelings from moats posting before I even saw this one. Moat is doing what scum often get caught doing - summarizing the game because it makes it look like they have content. He calls out someone for not scum hunting when he hasn't done any the whole game. He posts a lot about setup spec. I'm def getting a scummy vibe from moat. Would vote aa or moat today
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Jun 28, 2016 06:50
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AnonymousNarcotics posted:I agree with this case. I actually got a lot of the same feelings from moats posting before I even saw this one. Moat is doing what scum often get caught doing - summarizing the game because it makes it look like they have content. He calls out someone for not scum hunting when he hasn't done any the whole game. He posts a lot about setup spec. I'm def getting a scummy vibe from moat. Hop on the train whoo whoo
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Jun 28, 2016 06:54
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Truth Quark posted:##unvote you're claiming VT {Cop} ? You all seriously need to realize that shine roles are not just for VT. I am basing this on OP posted:[*]Rolecop - can investigate someone else at night, learning both their Role and Shine Role. This is why it was a bad idea for adahn to out quidnose. Please everyone stop assuming that shine role = vt. I think it's likely scum has shine roles too.
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Jun 28, 2016 06:55
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Of course scum have shine roles nobody has been questioning that. My question was directed specifically at AA because presumably he was full claiming (which he should just do at this point). I would vote Moat, maybe AA but I'm hesitant due to the cop claim.
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Jun 28, 2016 07:07
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Truth Quark posted:Of course scum have shine roles nobody has been questioning that. My question was directed specifically at AA because presumably he was full claiming (which he should just do at this point). I did full claim. Like more than once.
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Jun 28, 2016 07:08
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Anomalous Amalgam posted:I did full claim. Like more than once. What else is there to claim? 
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Jun 28, 2016 07:09
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##vote Truth Quark
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Jun 28, 2016 07:09
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CapitalistPig posted:I don't think AA is scum and tbh it's scummy af to be pushing him right now. You leave out the part where I don't vote for quidnose and then say this: Moatillata posted:I'm just trying to get him t I admit basically that all I'm trying to do is get quid involved in the game he has claimed difficulty in getting into. You're making a case where there isn't anything substantial because it's convenient and I am posting in the thread (unlike others).
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Jun 28, 2016 07:11
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Esp since quid has claimed he is the new boss. This is some bullshit cpig. Are you being intentionally dense or what
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Jun 28, 2016 07:12
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King Burgundy posted:This still doesn't follow for me. On the info thing, I find that town flips generally don't provide much information in general. It's only a scum flip that normally lends any insight. And, we might have one! If Inf was scum. I mean, he was a boss, so that suggests he had a team? We can analyze the posting that surrounded him to look for clues. If you haven't already done that, why don't you go look at Inf's posts and the people that posted about him for clues. Since you are here and posting, how come you responded to them and not to me?
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Jun 28, 2016 07:16
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So again, you seem to be looking for information from the next flip that you theoretically already have. I find this weird in a scummy way, so I'd probably vote you here normally, but you seem to be playing way different to the game I remember you being scum in with me, so for meta reasons I'm holding off.
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Jun 28, 2016 07:17
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Anomalous Amalgam posted:I did full claim. Like more than once. No you haven't. You've claimed shine cop, but no role to go with it. Are you vanilla town with an alignment cop shine power? I asked you this question earlier and you completely ignored it. Also this post is scummy as hell how did I miss it. Anomalous Amalgam posted:So you think my cop claim is a lie? You think as scum I'd waste my shine copping someone like flying leatherman? You think I set up breadcrumbs for a fake claim? You think there are multiple town cops? I mean a scum rolecop would be useful, but an alignment cop which is what I am... not so much. Especially when I get results of outfit aligned or not outfit aligned. You played like this in shine I and I had yoy pegged for mafia but was wrong so I don't know if I'm misreading you, you're scum or a town really way off track. As far as AR I can't say. My suspicions still fall strongest on TQ and ANarc based on how I've seen them play as town and scum. It just rubs me wrong, "You really think I'm stupid enough to do X as scum." You're out of shine, you can't cop anyone else, and you're correct you would need both the doc and a brewer to make you viable again. I am starting to think the correct choice is to flip you and see if you are really running a scum gambit or not. If you do flip scum, it would also finally answer the question of whether scum participated in the lottery or not.
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Jun 28, 2016 07:19
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I dunno MMT. I've already responded to some of those points in these last few hours and I'm literally rereading right now and not seeing that. Can you respond to my takes on those with how and why you differ?
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Jun 28, 2016 07:21
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Murmur Twin posted:I just re-read Adahn's case on TQ and I have to say, he brings up some pretty decent points. Hey guess what I was pushing AA then backed off when he claimed cop, now you will see in my above post that I am swinging back again because I am thinking about this game. You are, like Adahn, completely misrepresenting my play.
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Jun 28, 2016 07:21
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Truth Quark posted:No you haven't. You've claimed shine cop, but no role to go with it. Are you vanilla town with an alignment cop shine power? I asked you this question earlier and you completely ignored it. Anomalous Amalgam posted:I don't see any reason to not post this and I can't say much else until tonight busy work day filled with problems. I can be nothing else but Vanilla. Are you implying I could be a PR and still participate in the shine role lottery because that doesn't make sense to me.
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Jun 28, 2016 07:28
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Anomalous Amalgam posted:There was rolecop on that list though, that would have been more useful if I were scum.
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Jun 28, 2016 07:28
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TQ you're scum. Just come clean man. You're looking bad this game.
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Jun 28, 2016 07:28
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Like I said vote me if you feel like it. I'll flip town, then town should be able to make some connections based on who has pushed me. I'd personally look at who pushed the hardest, who pushed with little conviction and who has "me too"'d
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Jun 28, 2016 07:30
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I'M READY 2 DIE
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Jun 28, 2016 07:30
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Anomalous Amalgam posted:I can be nothing else but Vanilla. Are you implying I could be a PR and still participate in the shine role lottery because that doesn't make sense to me. You can be something else besides vanilla, its called scum (and the many roles that go with that), or any number of other things because this is Shine II. Anomalous Amalgam posted:TQ you're scum. Just come clean man. You're looking bad this game. Wrong. But thanks for answering my question anyway.
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Jun 28, 2016 07:31
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Now if I get NK'd and there's a janitor or a framer that would be bad news I guess, but I think I should be lynched. Let it all come clean.
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Jun 28, 2016 07:31
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Truth Quark posted:You can be something else besides vanilla, its called scum (and the many roles that go with that), or any number of other things because this is Shine II. So you are implying that I could be a scum with some sort of PR and still have a shine role?
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Jun 28, 2016 07:32
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Doubling down. ##vote TQ your logic here just doesn't add up man.
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Jun 28, 2016 07:32
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Anomalous Amalgam posted:So you are implying that I could be a scum with some sort of PR and still have a shine role? Shine 1 featured a godfather who was also an alignment cop so... yes.
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Jun 28, 2016 07:32
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Who admitted to having no shine ability, which he didn't, if you recall.
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Jun 28, 2016 07:33
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Anomalous Amalgam posted:Who admitted to having no shine ability, which he didn't, if you recall. 1) I remember him being Godfather {Cop} 2) Even if he wasn't, that doesn't mean it isn't possible in this game. Your setup spec is wrong and bad.
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Jun 28, 2016 07:34
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Actually the fact you are trying so hard to argue that it is impossible for you to have a shine role and something else is very weird to me.
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Jun 28, 2016 07:35
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Truth Quark posted:Actually the fact you are trying so hard to argue that it is impossible for you to have a shine role and something else is very weird to me. Like I said, I'm ready to go and when I flip. You'll be scrutinized for all your scum content, along with the other scum who are pushing this vote. So bring it.
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Anomalous Amalgam posted:Who admitted to having no shine ability, which he didn't, if you recall. Podima posted:
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Deadbeat Dad, aka James Moire, Mafia-Aligned Godfather {Alignment Cop} was banned from Morrow's Pub on Day 3!