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Li Dawny posted:Have you never heard of playing against your win condition? I'm not saying you are in general, but I am saying that this post is. Scum aren't the only people who can make scummy posts, that's basically how Disney ended the way it did. Then call my post bad. Don't insist it is scummy; my post isn't scummy if I am town. If I make a bad post PURPOSEFULLY, that is scummy. If I make a bad post BECAUSE I AM FRUSTRATED TOWN, that's a bad post. It's all about intent. Really big difference.
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JimsonTheBetrayer posted:What I want to know is why Li Dawny feels the need to over engage Quidad of all people? When she could just ignore him and coast on the fact that they usually get ignored cuz they r mafia dad. You know why I don't engage you Jimson? Because you're useless to engage. You make arguments based on how many words people use and if their phone is 'really' dying or if they're trying to 'buy time'. I don't like you on a personal level and if I could retroactively go back and never join a game you were in, I would. I don't want to spend my time defending my word choice or some other random play style choice that you've decided is scummy because you say so.
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Jun 28, 2016 18:26
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AnonymousNarcotics posted:THIS DOESN'T MAKE SENSE bc there is not necessarily only one cop!! He could very easily fake claim cop in a game that can have more than one of the same role. Umm , anarc, I am afraid it is you not making sense. You are scum though so I understand why you really really want a claimed cop dead. Let me explain to you though, why town should not. You see a cop is a town sided role who could potentially help us locate scum. So lynching one who is untested and un countered is really a very bad move if you are town. It will be easier to determine if he is lying as we go forward as opposed to cutting it off right now. This whole aa thing is BAD and also DUMB.
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Jun 28, 2016 18:26
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AnonymousNarcotics posted:If I were scum and knew you were town, why the hell would I be pushing your lynch? People would obviously go after me if you flip town. I have no such inside knowledge. God you just absolutely scream scum. Is no one else seeing this?
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Jun 28, 2016 18:27
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CapitalistPig posted:God you just absolutely scream scum. Is no one else seeing this? i am, now rereading
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Jun 28, 2016 18:28
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So basically you have time to argue with me over semantics, but not time to actually comment on or form a case on me of your own.
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Jun 28, 2016 18:29
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CapitalistPig posted:God you just absolutely scream scum. Is no one else seeing this? No? That post seemed pretty genuine to me. The only good argument I've seen from you, since you've been too busy calling the bad without saying why, is that yes, we can test AA more and more as the game progresses. I hadn't thought of that. It would rely on us potentially wasting shine on a scum cop though.
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Jun 28, 2016 18:30
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Absurd Revolver posted:i am, now boy i am glad anarc has been lurking because there aren't too many posts to read
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Jun 28, 2016 18:31
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Truth Quark posted:No? That post seemed pretty genuine to me. The only good argument I've seen from you, since you've been too busy calling the bad without saying why, is that yes, we can test AA more and more as the game progresses. I hadn't thought of that. Mafia edit: calling things bad Thanks phone
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Jun 28, 2016 18:31
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Truth Quark posted:The only good argument I've seen from you, since you've been too busy calling the bad without saying why You are bad at reading apparently. Why don't you try actually reading my posts, you might better understand what I am talking about.
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Jun 28, 2016 18:31
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AnonymousNarcotics posted:If I were scum and knew you were town, why the hell would I be pushing your lynch? People would obviously go after me if you flip town. I have no such inside knowledge. Ok TQ let me break it down so that even an idiot can understand. Saying "If I were scum why would I be doing this!" Is a way that scum like to use to disguise their actions as being townie because "Oh boy if I was scum doing this that would be risky!" Even though scum gambits are risky by default. Why would she be doing this as scum? Well if for some reason you are scum, and AA flips scum you look like you were on a scum and did the right thing, if AA flips town , well, thats one less cop scum would have to worry about and you have done your team a service and can now get lost in the crowd of other people on the lynch and maybe paint one of them as scummier. So part 1 of her post is scum posturing. Part two "I have no such inside knowledge" Lol, ok sure. That's the same as saying "Boy guys I sure am so town!" It is LAMIST bullshit. Does that help you understand it better? I tried really hard to break it down so that even a dumb and wrong idiot like you could understand the glaringly obvious.
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Jun 28, 2016 18:37
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CapitalistPig posted:You are bad at reading apparently. That is almost as bad of an idea as reading a Quidnose slap fight. The post I quoted is the first I've seen that actually presents new reasoning for not lynching AA. Everything else is just HES UNCC'D OMG BADS which has been addressed by people other than myself numerous times. Maybe YOU should try reading the thread?
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Jun 28, 2016 18:37
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Li Dawny posted:So basically you have time to argue with me over semantics, but not time to actually comment on or form a case on me of your own. This is how scum wins guys. They get you to a point where you don't care anymore, so you make a call without putting in the critical thought required, then people go 'ct, must be right' just like Ferngully.
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Jun 28, 2016 18:38
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Li Dawny posted:You know why I don't engage you Jimson? Because you're useless to engage. You make arguments based on how many words people use and if their phone is 'really' dying or if they're trying to 'buy time'. I don't like you on a personal level and if I could retroactively go back and never join a game you were in, I would. I don't want to spend my time defending my word choice or some other random play style choice that you've decided is scummy because you say so. Lmao this post is like... I want this all under my AV. This is the most scum of all scum posts.
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Jun 28, 2016 18:38
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Truth Quark posted:That is almost as bad of an idea as reading a Quidnose slap fight. LOL TQ, jesus christ him being an uncced cop should be the only reason you need as town. Stop being so loving dense.
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Jun 28, 2016 18:39
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Jun 28, 2016 18:40
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CapitalistPig posted:LOL TQ, jesus christ him being an uncced cop should be the only reason you need as town. Stop being so loving dense. Hey guess what I have a different opinion about AA's claim then you. I'm also going to leave it at that because I'm not here to defend ANarc.
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Jun 28, 2016 18:41
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Truth Quark posted:I'm also going to leave it at that because I'm not here to defend ANarc. So what you are saying is that you are purposely refusing to actually read my posts explaining why anarc is scum and my actual casework on her. good to know that you are also scum.
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Jun 28, 2016 18:42
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joke phase hedge -1AnonymousNarcotics posted:I did not advocate a turbo. I sarcastically said that turbos are a good idea. If I had actually been pro-turbo, I would have voted. correct on inf +1 AnonymousNarcotics posted:I think this is probably a huge town slapfight and scum are just sitting back and pointless request for clarification -1 AnonymousNarcotics posted:So are you or are you not loved today hedge leads to bad vote instead of sticking to a strong read on inf -1 AnonymousNarcotics posted:##vote glowku idk why but no lynching is bad probably. legit confusion +1 AnonymousNarcotics posted:Did you just say you're not a universal backup? Now I'm confused. self-conscious wifom? +? AnonymousNarcotics posted:Cat I don't think you understand what I was saying. Infinitum was tunneling adahn ALL of day 1. Not just towards the end. I'm saying adahn probably isn't scum bc why would infinitum be bussing him super hard from the beginning anger and finger pointing -1 AnonymousNarcotics posted:This is such an OMGUS. Me and TQ both think you're scum. TQ unvotes and now you vote me. Oh please. If you actually think I'm scum, make a case. Btw I don't believe your shine role claim. Since roles are in the OP it's really easy to just claim whatever you want, and if you are scum, you can obviously say you cleared someone because you guys know who isn't scum. BONUS: explain this post +2/-2 AnonymousNarcotics posted:I think more than one person can have the same shine role. Either that or someone in this thread is lying. losing composure and setup argument seems too knowledgeable -1 AnonymousNarcotics posted:THIS DOESN'T MAKE SENSE bc there is not necessarily only one cop!! He could very easily fake claim cop in a game that can have more than one of the same role. wifom 2: but worse -1 AnonymousNarcotics posted:If I were scum and knew you were town, why the hell would I be pushing your lynch? People would obviously go after me if you flip town. I have no such inside knowledge. TOTAL: (2 or 6)? RESULT: ##vote anarc
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Jun 28, 2016 18:44
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Yo people who are reading, can you look at Viva's summary post about Inf yesterday and tell me if it looks like it offers an actual opinion or if it's a bunch of white noise? I am going to push this because I know I am right here~
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Jun 28, 2016 18:52
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I'll even quote it for you again!VivaNova posted:Best votes: Infin, AR, AA, MG.
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Jun 28, 2016 18:53
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Guys, I have a great idea. Let's all ASSUME that there is more than one cop and bandwagon the hell out of our only claimed cop, rather than letting the other cop(s) investigate AA. As town, it is our absolute prerogative to lynch uncounterclaimed cops, just in case we have extra cops lying around. Much town. Very play. So idea. And now, to vote someone who came in to bus AA, played scummy yesterday and today, and voted AA AGAIN after he CLAIMED COP and NOBODY COUNTERCLAIMED. Oh wait. It seems I already did that. Carry on, Mafia thread.
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Jun 28, 2016 18:54
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Omg how many times do I have to say this - there's no such thing as an uncced cop in this game. There isn't only one of each role so counter claiming doesn't mean poo poo
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Jun 28, 2016 18:56
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Yo Adahn, who else is scum?
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AnonymousNarcotics posted:Omg how many times do I have to say this - there's no such thing as an uncced cop in this game. There isn't only one of each role so counter claiming doesn't mean poo poo Waiting to see about someone investigating AA is not a bad idea, though.
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Absurd Revolver posted:after my first endgame defeat in warriors i went into seclusion and studied the words of li scummy and how she lead us all to the slaughter See, I actually have the opposite view and this is also what's pinging me about LD now - I've been in other games where she was scum and her posting here feels more similar to those games than her town play. It's not enough for me to place a vote on her just yet because I have mixed feelings about meta votes in general, but it's another point of information for me. LD appearing to suggest that Quid may be scum because he's going after is also REALLY not helping her case.
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Jun 28, 2016 18:58
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Quidnose posted:Yo people who are reading, can you look at Viva's summary post about Inf yesterday and tell me if it looks like it offers an actual opinion or if it's a bunch of white noise? I am going to push this because I know I am right here~ It reads as very hedgy to me, but I would need to go back and look at Inf's case on Adahn that she references to be certain. I'll do that when I have access to a computer.
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tpink posted:See, I actually have the opposite view and this is also what's pinging me about LD now - I've been in other games where she was scum and her posting here feels more similar to those games than her town play. It's not enough for me to place a vote on her just yet because I have mixed feelings about meta votes in general, but it's another point of information for me. i didn't even know you were in this game tpink
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tpink posted:See, I actually have the opposite view and this is also what's pinging me about LD now - I've been in other games where she was scum and her posting here feels more similar to those games than her town play. It's not enough for me to place a vote on her just yet because I have mixed feelings about meta votes in general, but it's another point of information for me. I never called him scum, I specifically said he wasn't scum.
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tpink posted:See, I actually have the opposite view and this is also what's pinging me about LD now - I've been in other games where she was scum and her posting here feels more similar to those games than her town play. It's not enough for me to place a vote on her just yet because I have mixed feelings about meta votes in general, but it's another point of information for me. This is what KB did as well  I really wish people would actually read what I am saying about KB.
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Absurd Revolver posted:i didn't even know you were in this game tpink Hi friend.
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Quidnose posted:I'll even quote it for you again! Quid, you really are the bomb, you know that? That was a pretty hedgy post, and if any of the people who suggested lynching a boss D1 was a bad idea flips scum, I'm going to take a hard look at everyone who suggested it. It very well could have been Infinitum who submitted Dongsbot's name to the merc and got him killed. We don't have any flavor apart from everyone getting "filled with lead", so I'm a bit pissed that so many people ignored Infin's egregiously scummy play (despite acknowledging it) in favor of lynching me or Glowku.
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Adahn1986 posted:Quid, you really are the bomb, you know that? That was a pretty hedgy post, and if any of the people who suggested lynching a boss D1 was a bad idea flips scum, I'm going to take a hard look at everyone who suggested it. See, here's the thing, I went into this post in detail last night and I connected KB as scum to it. So why haven't you read my interaction with him and seen that I already did this, Adahn?
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Li Dawny posted:I never called him scum, I specifically said he wasn't scum. Li Dawny, this is the post of yours that I'm talking about : Li Dawny posted:Have you never heard of playing against your win condition? I'm not saying you are in general, but I am saying that this post is. Scum aren't the only people who can make scummy posts, that's basically how Disney ended the way it did. I guess if we want to get pedantic, yes, you called that post by Quid scummy without calling Quid scum specifically.
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Li Dawny posted:You know why I don't engage you Jimson? Because you're useless to engage. You make arguments based on how many words people use and if their phone is 'really' dying or if they're trying to 'buy time'. I don't like you on a personal level and if I could retroactively go back and never join a game you were in, I would. I don't want to spend my time defending my word choice or some other random play style choice that you've decided is scummy because you say so. jimmy is a good man and i wont have u tarnish his name
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Quidnose posted:Yo Adahn, who else is scum? Right now my strongest read is on TQ. AnonymousNarcotics posted:Omg how many times do I have to say this - there's no such thing as an uncced cop in this game. There isn't only one of each role so counter claiming doesn't mean poo poo Then isn't AA a better invest target than a lynch target? If he lives too long as a cop we know something is up, anyways. What kind of dumbass mafia team keeps a cop alive? Hell, even the 3P boss will probably take him out, as they will come up as not-outfit aligned. Do you know what that means? It means that even if he IS scum, he's toast. Why waste a lynch? I can't..even... Someone? Anyone? Am I making sense to anyone here? Does this parse?
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Quidnose posted:See, here's the thing, I went into this post in detail last night and I connected KB as scum to it. So why haven't you read my interaction with him and seen that I already did this, Adahn? There are at least 3 people who did that though (TQ, KB, someone else?) so if they are ALL scum then ooooops. Other than that, he reads town to me, and I'd much sooner go after TQ who has been otherwise been playing very scummy and had connections to Infinitum.
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##unvote ok but I still think he's scum. Especially if he's still alive tmrw after claiming cop.
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