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BattleMaster
Aug 14, 2000

well why not posted:

Windows' 10's search feature is so garbage I hope it's obsoleted soon. It won't find stuff that's pinned to the taskbar and can't even do basic math. It's decades behind spotlight. Spotlight!

Is this sarcasm?

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Last Chance
Dec 31, 2004

BattleMaster posted:

Is this sarcasm?

No, it's terrible.

Grassy Knowles
Apr 4, 2003

"The original Terminator was a gritty fucking AMAZING piece of sci-fi. Gritty fucking rock-hard MURDER!"
Both cortana and spotlight (last I used them, this may have changed in the last year) also do that thing where they auto-populate the list but without regard for sort order, so if you search something and the right entry pops up if you hit enter you might not get it because it repopulated the list and the top match changed between finishing typing and hitting enter. I know that the respective service is still searching, and that's fine, but populate the entries you find below the top result to solve this problem. If you don't trust your algorithm to come up with the appropriate top result, don't populate anything in there until you do (or don't ship the product at all if that sounds unreasonable).

Iron Crowned
May 6, 2003

by Hand Knit

For some reason that reminds me of going to high school in the late 90's.

My Computer sciences teacher told us the tale of someone getting past disabling the command prompt, by making a text document with "CMD" in it, and changing the extension to .exe :laugh:

Guy Axlerod
Dec 29, 2008

Iron Crowned posted:

For some reason that reminds me of going to high school in the late 90's.

My Computer sciences teacher told us the tale of someone getting past disabling the command prompt, by making a text document with "CMD" in it, and changing the extension to .exe :laugh:

Probably BAT instead of EXE, but that's somewhat clever.

When I was in elementary school, there were two student accounts, one without internet access, and one with a red desktop background and internet access. The internet was big and scary, and you might accidentally end up on a porn site or learn how to build a bomb or something. One day I was dicking around in Encarta, and found some way to launch other applications from it, so I tried Netscape. It worked. I realized that all they did was delete the icon from the one desktop.

Since I was a dork, the teacher had already given me the secret internet account password. It was the same as the username.

Explosionface
May 30, 2011

We can dance if we want to,
we can leave Marle behind.
'Cause your fiends don't dance,
and if they don't dance,
they'll get a Robo Fist of mine.


When I was in high school, a couple of my friends and I were student aides for the tech department (in no small part because my mom was in said department) and we would occasionally use Remote Desktop to see what kids were up to on school computers. One day, we found a kid with a bunch of windows open on horticulture. Our reaction was basically, "Wow, this guy is actually doing something productive! That's amazing!" It was then followed by him going back to another window that was more or less "How to grow weed." We got a really good laugh out of it as my mom went and busted the kid when we locked his screen.

It was also fun knowing the ins and outs of how FoolProof (there's some obsolete technology for you) worked and being able to bypass it as we wished.

Phlegmish
Jul 2, 2011



You must have been hated at school.

Tunicate
May 15, 2012

Remember this poo poo?

George RR Fartin
Apr 16, 2003




Explosionface posted:

When I was in high school,... my mom went and busted the kid when we locked his screen.


snitches get stitches

TotalLossBrain
Oct 20, 2010

Hier graben!

Shlomo Palestein posted:

snitches get stitches

and end up in ditches.

The only tales from computer lab I can tell are of programming in Turbo Pascal. Exciting stuff folks.

Horse Clocks
Dec 14, 2004


Kaizoku posted:

Both cortana and spotlight (last I used them, this may have changed in the last year) also do that thing where they auto-populate the list but without regard for sort order, so if you search something and the right entry pops up if you hit enter you might not get it because it repopulated the list and the top match changed between finishing typing and hitting enter. I know that the respective service is still searching, and that's fine, but populate the entries you find below the top result to solve this problem. If you don't trust your algorithm to come up with the appropriate top result, don't populate anything in there until you do (or don't ship the product at all if that sounds unreasonable).
pop-in is the most infuriating thing ever. And now with architecture-first lovely web design/UX, it happens on nearly every other website.

Adding simple width/height attributes to image tags in your html would go a long way. (I guess that's another 'obsolete' technology, simple and functional HTML)

Code Jockey
Jan 24, 2006

69420 basic bytes free
Speaking of ERP systems from a few pages ago, lmao Dynamics AX 7 is hideous, just square Metro poo poo and wasted space everywhere and poor navigation

I cannot wait for this design fad to die and be relevant for this thread

darkhand
Jan 18, 2010

This beard just won't do!

Horse Clocks posted:

pop-in is the most infuriating thing ever. And now with architecture-first lovely web design/UX, it happens on nearly every other website.

Adding simple width/height attributes to image tags in your html would go a long way. (I guess that's another 'obsolete' technology, simple and functional HTML)

This reminds me of how terrible the Reddit mobile site is. There's a floating banner that scrolls along with the page that's just a link to Reddit homepage.

There's a nother floating banner at the bottom that tells you when your internet connection goes online or offline for some reason?? There like 2px seperating different levels of nested comments, making it incredibly hard to follow who's replying to whom. This is a site that has millions of users, it's insane.


The whole modern webstack is absolutely terrible. Did you know JavaScript is basically obsolete? A lot of web devs are writing poo poo like "coffeescript" that compiles into JavaScript, which has CSS, which has HTML. That's 4 languages to make garbage websites, that's not even counting the logic code like Python/Ruby/C#

darkhand has a new favorite as of 23:32 on Jun 29, 2016

BattleMaster
Aug 14, 2000

Last Chance posted:

No, it's terrible.

Okay I was just wondering because I didn't think things on the task bar needed searching for and I've never considered doing math to be a core function of search.

Aphrodite
Jun 27, 2006

Cortana, find me Cortana.

Proteus Jones
Feb 28, 2013



BattleMaster posted:

Okay I was just wondering because I didn't think things on the task bar needed searching for and I've never considered doing math to be a core function of search.

Yes, that's the only reason Windows search sucks. You've gotten to the core of it. :rolleyes:

Wanamingo
Feb 22, 2008

by FactsAreUseless

I heart bacon posted:

:doh: I didn't even think of that either.... thanks! :downsgun:

You know you don't have to figure out Windows 10 by yourself, right? If you can't find something, then you can type your problem into google and it'll spit out an answer.

Collateral Damage
Jun 13, 2009

Iron Crowned posted:

My Computer sciences teacher told us the tale of someone getting past disabling the command prompt, by making a text document with "CMD" in it, and changing the extension to .exe :laugh:
Another way if the Run command is disabled on the start menu is to hit Ctrl-Alt-Del, bring up task manager and use File->New Task.

Also handy whenever Explorer crashes and takes the taskbar/start button away, just start explorer.exe from task manager.

BattleMaster
Aug 14, 2000

flosofl posted:

Yes, that's the only reason Windows search sucks. You've gotten to the core of it. :rolleyes:

Well that's what the specific complaints were that I first quoted. I'm not even defending it, it's just those seem like such bizarre complaints.

Karasu Tengu
Feb 16, 2011

Humble Tengu Newspaper Reporter

Collateral Damage posted:

Another way if the Run command is disabled on the start menu is to hit Ctrl-Alt-Del, bring up task manager and use File->New Task.

Also handy whenever Explorer crashes and takes the taskbar/start button away, just start explorer.exe from task manager.

Ctrl-Alt-Del? Look at this scrub, going through the security screen instead of Ctrl+Shift+Esc to directly open the task manager.


darkhand posted:

This reminds me of how terrible the Reddit mobile site is. There's a floating banner that scrolls along with the page that's just a link to Reddit homepage.

There's a nother floating banner at the bottom that tells you when your internet connection goes online or offline for some reason?? There like 2px seperating different levels of nested comments, making it incredibly hard to follow who's replying to whom. This is a site that has millions of users, it's insane.

Collateral Damage
Jun 13, 2009

Elliotw2 posted:

Ctrl-Alt-Del? Look at this scrub, going through the security screen instead of Ctrl+Shift+Esc to directly open the task manager.
Look at me getting schooled.

Light Gun Man
Oct 17, 2009

toEjaM iS oN
vaCatioN




Lipstick Apathy
My dumb old tech stories from school time:

I was almost immediately banned forever from the school network my freshman year because I went to the library after classes were over and printed out a faq from gamefaqs. It has game in the url, you see, and therefore, I must have been doing the most severe of all school internet crimes: PLAYING GAMES ONLINE. Of course, you sometimes needed network access for classes, so I stole one of my friends' brother's login deets and used his account for the rest of my time there.

Unrelated story: A couple years later I moved down to several states away to a new house and got the place to myself for the weekend. I had the family PC, but no internet, since we just moved. There was also nowhere in the house I could find at the time that had both a phone jack and the necessary power outlets to get online anyway. But I would not be deterred. I found all the spare phone cord I had and used some nail clippers and scotch tape to make a long-rear end phone cord to run from another room to the PC. I busted out a phone card, learned the timing for punching in the numbers, programmed it into the dialing program, and used this to dial back to our still-active dial-up account from where we were moving from. I remember still that the phone number ended in 2600, how 1337 of them. Enjoyed my weekend alone with the internet.

I was only at that house for a year or so but I remember a lot of my own personal tech advanced happened there, like "upgrading" to windows ME and the first time I ever got broadband :tviv: :pcgaming: :krad:

open24hours
Jan 7, 2001

Light Gun Man posted:

I was only at that house for a year or so but I remember a lot of my own personal tech advanced happened there, like "upgrading" to windows ME and the first time I ever got broadband :tviv: :pcgaming: :krad:

I remember getting 256k 'broadband' for the first time. Before that I was on a dialup connection that would be lucky to get speeds above 36k. Absolutely blew my mind, only six hours to download a movie!?!?!

KozmoNaut
Apr 23, 2008

Happiness is a warm
Turbo Plasma Rifle


open24hours posted:

I remember getting 256k 'broadband' for the first time. Before that I was on a dialup connection that would be lucky to get speeds above 36k. Absolutely blew my mind, only six hours to download a movie!?!?!

For a ~700MB crap-quality Xvid encode :allears:

On the other hand, my computer at the time had a 12GB hard drive and no CD burner, so downloading a movie was more like a curiosity than anything else. Especially on 128k ISDN.

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

as a person who never leaves my house i've done pretty well for myself.
At the time I got broadband, movie downloading wasn’t a thing. I mean, they were on P2P in the form of multi‐part archives, but no one I knew bothered because of storage limitations, quality problems, inability to play them back on a TV screen, &c..

This was pre‐Bittorrent.

BogDew
Jun 14, 2006

E:\FILES>quickfli clown.fli

KozmoNaut posted:

For a ~700MB crap-quality Xvid encode :allears
Invader_Zim_e_01.rm

well why not
Feb 10, 2009




Windows 10 lets you open the C: drive, by typing C: - if you type C:/ mine will open the non-default browser and search the internet for that term. It may be 'smart' but it's not smart.

KozmoNaut
Apr 23, 2008

Happiness is a warm
Turbo Plasma Rifle


Platystemon posted:

At the time I got broadband, movie downloading wasn’t a thing. I mean, they were on P2P in the form of multi‐part archives, but no one I knew bothered because of storage limitations, quality problems, inability to play them back on a TV screen, &c..

This was pre‐Bittorrent.

Yeah, we mostly exchanged movies on CD-Rs, kept in ever-growing CD binders. 2-CD rips were the poo poo back then.

I think I still have my Official Star Wars CD binder around here somewhere.

Buttcoin purse
Apr 24, 2014

The best time was when I got broadband and then a few months later my provider went bust because of dot com (2001 nevar 4get) and I was back on dialup for a year.

well why not posted:

Windows 10 lets you open the C: drive, by typing C: - if you type C:/ mine will open the non-default browser and search the internet for that term. It may be 'smart' but it's not smart.

What happens if you use the correct (for Windows) slash? :v: I know in lots of cases forward slashes seem to work just as well.

F4rt5
May 20, 2006

KozmoNaut posted:

For a ~700MB crap-quality Xvid encode :allears:
A CD-sized XviD encode was not crap quality, as long as it was a DVD-rip and not a cam. Recompressed audio and video, yes, but almost indistinguishable from the source. By the way, anyone remember DivX ;-) when it was a hacked MS codec?

SCheeseman
Apr 23, 2003

Back in the day I converted stuff I downloaded into 2-disc VCD/SVCDs, since HDD space was at a premium. Quality took a hit but it still looked okay.

KozmoNaut
Apr 23, 2008

Happiness is a warm
Turbo Plasma Rifle


JazzmasterCurious posted:

A CD-sized XviD encode was not crap quality, as long as it was a DVD-rip and not a cam. Recompressed audio and video, yes, but almost indistinguishable from the source. By the way, anyone remember DivX ;-) when it was a hacked MS codec?

Hell no, the quality difference from DVD was definitely noticeable, especially with crappy old DivX/Xvid codecs.

Either you kept the original AC3 audo and had to compromise on video quality and resolution, or you re-encoded the audio to 64kbps Xing MP3 or similar.

I was deep into DVD ripping and movie trading. The quality was poo poo. And don't get me started on the shittyness of codec packs. VLC was an absolute revelation.

Iron Crowned
May 6, 2003

by Hand Knit

Collateral Damage posted:

Another way if the Run command is disabled on the start menu is to hit Ctrl-Alt-Del, bring up task manager and use File->New Task.

Also handy whenever Explorer crashes and takes the taskbar/start button away, just start explorer.exe from task manager.

I think they had Ctrl-Alt-Del blocked out or something. Remember this was in the Windows 95 days

SCheeseman
Apr 23, 2003

Also does anyone remember overburning? You could hit around 900MB-1GB per CD if you were lucky. Some manufacturers even produced CD-Rs that advertised that they could hit those sizes.

BogDew
Jun 14, 2006

E:\FILES>quickfli clown.fli
I recall Sony had a particular brand that was infamous for creating unreadable discs when overburnt. They claimed you could hit 700mb but nothing could read them.

My Lovely Horse
Aug 21, 2010

KozmoNaut posted:

Yeah, we mostly exchanged movies on CD-Rs, kept in ever-growing CD binders. 2-CD rips were the poo poo back then.
Carelessly agreeing to receive a copy of Lord of the Rings led to me being handed a stack of six full-size jewel cases once.

RC and Moon Pie
May 5, 2011

open24hours posted:

I remember getting 256k 'broadband' for the first time. Before that I was on a dialup connection that would be lucky to get speeds above 36k. Absolutely blew my mind, only six hours to download a movie!?!?!

That's why Download Accelerator existed.

36K would have been a dream. My dial-up didn't go past 14.4K. The first modem I had was 2400 baud. Even going to an interface as simple as Yahoo's was back then needed about 10 minutes to download a single page.

Iron Crowned
May 6, 2003

by Hand Knit

RC and Moon Pie posted:

That's why Download Accelerator existed.

36K would have been a dream. My dial-up didn't go past 14.4K. The first modem I had was 2400 baud. Even going to an interface as simple as Yahoo's was back then needed about 10 minutes to download a single page.

Ugh, my neighborhood took forever to get cable internet, so my family shared a single 56k line. My brother hated that me doing anything at all on the internet would give him lag on his precious Counterstrike, so it was very frequent that my connection would somehow come out of the router at night.

Buttcoin purse
Apr 24, 2014

Spy_Guy posted:

Sure thing. :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7flZNhThrEo
I'd have posted it earlier but didn't wanna be a shameful plug. Don't know about the request to do it slowly, though, since the video is kind of old. Sure wouldn't mind making another one if there's something someone wants to see.

Also made one when I had the covers off for cleaning to show what happens if you divide by zero.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZOJPPD-DfQ8
It's not super exciting, I think :ssh:

I don't think I've ever seen much detail of a mechanical calculator being used before (probably just seen old cash registers on TV), that was pretty impressive, thanks! And funny :v:

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Pilsner
Nov 23, 2002

KozmoNaut posted:

Hell no, the quality difference from DVD was definitely noticeable, especially with crappy old DivX/Xvid codecs.

Either you kept the original AC3 audo and had to compromise on video quality and resolution, or you re-encoded the audio to 64kbps Xing MP3 or similar.

I was deep into DVD ripping and movie trading. The quality was poo poo. And don't get me started on the shittyness of codec packs. VLC was an absolute revelation.
A DivX 3.11 was definitely dogshit. I seem to recall a typical Xvid from around 2003 was maybe 200-250 pixels in vertical resolution, really tiny, but definitely watchable. It was standard, as I recall, to re-encode the audio to MP3, and even cut out the credits at the end to leave more room for the actual film.

Today, it's funny how DVDs look like utter garbage compared to a BluRay / HD stuff.

Oh lord, codec packs. I think I started with the Kazaa codec pack, lol. Things got better with the dawn of CCCP, then when I switched to MPC I think I just installed some minimalist DirectShow filter pack that a goon made (defiantpack?), and then finally moved to PotPlayer which has its own renderer so to speak (and is an amazing media player in general, try it!).

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