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Allen Wren posted:Oh jeez, I forgot how bad working nights is for mafiaing. "Sure wouldn't be surprised if this guy is town...I'm gonna vote him!!" This is illogical and shows AW is just tying to say words and look like they're thinking critically when really they're just spouting nothings. Notice how he he goes out of his way to hint that MG will probably flip town, and is voting them based on...being dumb? I don't get what he's trying to say about Jimson and mentioning him at all is obfuscation because he was a d1 turbo there isn't much to get off of that. No idea why that points to YPM. How can you "not like an argument" when you are the only person making it? If you don't like it, why mention it at all? To say words with no meaning. He then makes a lurker call out less than 24 hours into d2 after a fast d1 turbo, and it, again, apparently has no relevance to anything since AW doesn't see it as meaningful. ##vote AW
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# ? Jun 30, 2016 12:09 |
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The Ninth Layer posted:I would think that targeting someone to redirect anything hitting you to them would count as a targeting action. It's not my game though. if thats the case then standard redirectors would be trackable to 2 different people
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# ? Jun 30, 2016 13:48 |
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JakeP posted:if thats the case then standard redirectors would be trackable to 2 different people I would think both their targets would be redirected to the lightning rod.
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# ? Jun 30, 2016 15:43 |
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does anyone like my case against AW
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# ? Jun 30, 2016 15:57 |
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Kashuno posted:does anyone like my case against AW i do but I've never even seen allen wren actually play mafia instead of mod so i'm fuzzy on hin you're right that his case feels artifical, something scum would come up with to fake town participation i need time to think
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# ? Jun 30, 2016 16:01 |
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Kashuno posted:does anyone like my case against AW There was a pretty hefty amount of activity yesterday. It reads more like someone who read through and really doesn't know what to think but puts their thoughts down anyway, which is what i do all the time
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# ? Jun 30, 2016 16:06 |
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Your Personal Muse posted:There was a pretty hefty amount of activity yesterday. It reads more like someone who read through and really doesn't know what to think but puts their thoughts down anyway, which is what i do all the time Except their thoughts are "Eh. No read on AA. Mags probs town but I will vote him. No read on YPM. No read on lurkers." and no comment about Jake P's case..?
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# ? Jun 30, 2016 16:13 |
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I don't think I can say AW is scum just based on that post
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# ? Jun 30, 2016 16:14 |
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lets flip aa and look at his guts he even asked up to
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# ? Jun 30, 2016 16:20 |
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Allen Wren posted:The main thing that's digging at me about day one is what I know about Jimson as scum, specifically Jimson disrespecting the flow of a game. I was gung-ho to punch his ticket, but I'm wondering if I got played, like, he knew people would be pretty okay with him being turboed because of his reputation. This obviously points the finger at YPM, but I'm not happy about that argument either. Can you please elaborate a little more on what you mean by this? I'm not following. You're saying you "got played" by going along with a successful turbo for town?
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# ? Jun 30, 2016 16:29 |
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I also think that AW's post where he basically says "MG3 is playing dumb and may be town, but I'm voting for him anyway" is odd.
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# ? Jun 30, 2016 16:35 |
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I think AA's meltdown because two people had kind of lovely cases in him is odd
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# ? Jun 30, 2016 16:41 |
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Your Personal Muse posted:I think AA's meltdown because two people had kind of lovely cases in him is odd I agree with that too. His vote on me is garbage and I would vote AA when we approach deadline
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# ? Jun 30, 2016 16:45 |
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tpink posted:I also think that AW's post where he basically says "MG3 is playing dumb and may be town, but I'm voting for him anyway" is odd. What is this saying? You've been making these kinds of posts all game. Who is scum? Who is town?
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# ? Jun 30, 2016 16:47 |
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Your Personal Muse posted:What is this saying? You've been making these kinds of posts all game. Who is scum? Who is town?
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# ? Jun 30, 2016 16:48 |
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instead of w8ing for deadline, we could just vote aa now, just a thought
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# ? Jun 30, 2016 16:49 |
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dongsbot play the game or don't post thanks
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# ? Jun 30, 2016 16:51 |
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youre not my dad
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# ? Jun 30, 2016 17:43 |
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dongsbot 9000 posted:youre not my dad ya I'm not dealing with this all game
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# ? Jun 30, 2016 17:46 |
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Your Personal Muse posted:What is this saying? You've been making these kinds of posts all game. Who is scum? Who is town? This is saying that AW's post pings scummy because he says that MG may well be town but then votes for him anyway. What's unclear about that?
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# ? Jun 30, 2016 17:47 |
Kashuno posted:ya I'm not dealing with this all game Another one bites the dust
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# ? Jun 30, 2016 17:48 |
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MG3 posted:Another one bites the dust how do you feel about AW's vote on you?
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# ? Jun 30, 2016 17:51 |
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lmao
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# ? Jun 30, 2016 17:53 |
Kashuno posted:how do you feel about AW's vote on you? It doesn't make any sense whatsoever and is opportunistic. I'd say it's a scummy vote
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# ? Jun 30, 2016 17:57 |
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tpink posted:This is saying that AW's post pings scummy because he says that MG may well be town but then votes for him anyway. What's unclear about that? Odd does not equal scummy. I for instance am an odd man but I'm the towniest motherfucker here because my PM says so.
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# ? Jun 30, 2016 18:00 |
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Your Personal Muse posted:Odd does not equal scummy. I for instance am an odd man but I'm the towniest motherfucker here because my PM says so. Yeah, this is why I didn't vote for AW just based on that -- it's odd because his vote doesn't follow from his post, but by itself, it's not enough for me to say "oh he must be scum."
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# ? Jun 30, 2016 18:02 |
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Other than saying that Jake's case is straightforward, there doesn't seem to be an opinion on AA in your post history. What do you think of AA?
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# ? Jun 30, 2016 18:37 |
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Your Personal Muse posted:Other than saying that Jake's case is straightforward, there doesn't seem to be an opinion on AA in your post history. What do you think of AA? At this point of sounds like pretty much everyone buys AA's story that he is a one-shot nexus who used his power N1. The only question becomes alignment. Based on the wiki I'm inclined to believe that makes him town. I'm also inclined to believe that based on his fit, actually- if he's one-shot and he already used it, then he doesn't have a lot left to contribute to the town game outside of votes and he's staring down the barrel of a lynch based on the current count and one or two others leaning that way at deadline. If he was scum, on the other hand, even if he'd used his one-shot PR, he could still perform the night kill, right? I'd think he'd fight harder to stay alive rather than just saying "gently caress it, I'm out." Maybe that's me reading too far into things and I fully admit being relatively new and having never been scum before, I might be misunderstanding- but that's my thinking, anyway.
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# ? Jun 30, 2016 19:04 |
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I do, however, still want to hear more from Allen Wren because that post left me with a lot more questions than answers. Especially after a re-read.
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# ? Jun 30, 2016 19:06 |
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just gonna put that there.
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# ? Jun 30, 2016 19:07 |
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IllegallySober posted:At this point of sounds like pretty much everyone buys AA's story that he is a one-shot nexus who used his power N1. The only question becomes alignment. Well I was talking to TPink, but again, the first wiki that pops up when you type mafia nexus into google mentions it is a pro scum role, and if you use your noggin, redirecting ALL actions, including investigative actions, induces chaos and hurts the town. The fact that he is a nexus does not sway me one way or another. I would like to know why, if he believed Rarity was scum, he redirected all actions toward rarity. If rarity performed the night kill and a tracker tracked it, or was scum and got copped, AA would come up scum. And investigative actions are much more likely than killing actions (at least the way I see it). It makes more sense for scum, knowing this is a role heavy game, to blow their one shot nexus the first night to hopefully get a false positive one someone else than town to do so.
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# ? Jun 30, 2016 19:09 |
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CapitalistPig posted:
Gimmie a vig and I'll start threatening people
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# ? Jun 30, 2016 19:10 |
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Your Personal Muse posted:Well I was talking to TPink, but again, the first wiki that pops up when you type mafia nexus into google mentions it is a pro scum role, and if you use your noggin, redirecting ALL actions, including investigative actions, induces chaos and hurts the town. The fact that he is a nexus does not sway me one way or another. Asiina* FTFY
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# ? Jun 30, 2016 19:11 |
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Anomalous Amalgam posted:Asiina* FTFY Sorry you are right. Now answer the question
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# ? Jun 30, 2016 19:12 |
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Nexus can be either alignment stop using a nexus justification.
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# ? Jun 30, 2016 19:16 |
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Kashuno posted:Nexus can be either alignment stop using a nexus justification.
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# ? Jun 30, 2016 19:18 |
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Your Personal Muse posted:Sorry you are right. Now answer the question I figured, if someone made a NK on me maybe I could redirect to someone else I thought was scum. Your Ah-ha! relies on me thinking Asiina also would be the one to make the NK, which I wasn't betting on. In any case, I didn't think it through all that much. I'm a blow your load type of guy.
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# ? Jun 30, 2016 19:19 |
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Anomalous Amalgam posted:I figured, if someone made a NK on me maybe I could redirect to someone else I thought was scum. Your Ah-ha! relies on me thinking Asiina also would be the one to make the NK, which I wasn't betting on. In any case, I didn't think it through all that much. I'm a blow your load type of guy. This is bizarre. "I thought Asiina was scum but there's NO WAY she could've been the one to do the kill!!!"
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# ? Jun 30, 2016 19:20 |
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Do you know she couldn't do the kill because you know who did instead?
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# ? Jun 30, 2016 19:21 |
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Kashuno posted:Do you know she couldn't do the kill because you know who did instead? No I'm saying, YPM's argument relies on me believing I thought she would make the kill. he's arguing, why target asiina if you think she's scum. Why target anyone else than a person I thought was scum? I mean what if I could redirect the nk to kill themselves even. Normally, I see nexus with a limitation, but my limitation is that it is 1-shot, and it redirects any actions targeting me to a target of my choosing. Outside of that, I have no knowledge on if it can prevent or redirect a kill.
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