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BattleHamster posted:kind of interesting: its cuz xrd was hella new last evo and still was in the romance period. now its people that just give a poo poo about the game only.
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Jmcrofts posted:Yes there is BYOC why wouldn't there be? BattleHamster posted:kind of interesting: eh, i'd chalk that up to new game shine vs it being established since rev isn't that big of a change supposedly it's more surprising that the dropoff is so low for it being established e;fb
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Brosnan posted:I think it would be cool if they dropped Melee to being a large side tourney and had one main stage slot every year reserved for a classic game. Like help people who are relatively new to the FGC discover how cool Vsav or Alpha or MvC2 or w/e are by featuring one as a main stage game to get people back into it for a bit. Yeah, that would definitely be my #1 choice for something to replace Melee with. Just a rotating "classic 90s fighting games" slot for people to get to check out some of the genre's history.
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I'm triggered that the order of that spreadsheet isn't 2015 -> 2016 -> % change
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more people are registered to play Pokken than Tekken 7 and Killer Instinct combined lmao
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remember when pokken was gonna bring on the new wave of fighting games and kill everything but sf forever
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setafd posted:more people are registered to play Pokken than Tekken 7 and Killer Instinct combined lmao well t7 wont even be released for half a year and ki uhhh i dont know who cares thats why
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Fereydun posted:remember when pokken was gonna bring on the new wave of fighting games and kill everything but sf forever No
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Brosnan posted:I'm triggered that the order of that spreadsheet isn't 2015 -> 2016 -> % change 
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Jmcrofts posted:Didn't this happen with ST 2 years ago? When Mao won the tournament? Yes, but I mean something a little more formalized (and potentially more than ST). It definitely did happen in that case, though.
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thank goodness i'd say 'now the next step is to forget about pokken entirely' but i already did that until i saw it on the list there
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The KI numbers are interesting - seeing a game actually grow in popularity like that, rather than slowly die off. (The SF number is relevant for different reasons since it's 4->5). Honestly, as rough as aspects of SF5 and its release are, and the public narrative about it, it does seem to be 'healthy' as far as competitive interest with those numbers. But given financial success w/ it and Capcom, I wonder what (if anything) we'll see from them in the future and how they appeal to the masses/where most of their actual money comes from.
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Jul 1, 2016 21:25
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they should replace melee with uniel and smash 4 with loving dengeki bunko
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I mean, for all talk of Smash being "boring" and "taking too long" and "being filled with autists", it still gets more competitors than any non-SF game in TWO different games, and there is (or at least was) VERY little overlap between the two scenes. So it kinda deserves its main stage spot. Plus, I don't find it terribly boring to watch, it just runs way too long - and sets are rarely a blowup, so that makes it even worse.
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honestly i'd be fine with smash if melee just dropped down to two stocks like smash 4
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Dias posted:I mean, for all talk of Smash being "boring" and "taking too long" and "being filled with autists", it still gets more competitors than any non-SF game in TWO different games, and there is (or at least was) VERY little overlap between the two scenes. So it kinda deserves its main stage spot. Plus, I don't find it terribly boring to watch, it just runs way too long - and sets are rarely a blowup, so that makes it even worse. Obviously in this thread you get a lot of very polarized opinions. The only real thing I hold against it is that it's a pretty different crowd with different There's definitely some crossover, but there's a ton of hostility towards both sides. So in that regard, it sucks to have it bolted onto EVO and taking away from other things when it doesn't 'fit'. (Which it WILL do because floor/salon space is finite as is time) Obviously there are Tekken players that don't play SF and vice-versa, but those communities are far more used to coexistence. It was one cool thing about fighting games vs, say, a MOBA which obviously don't result in three of them being crammed into one venue.
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I bet that no more than half the number of people who registered for sfv show up, and next year sfv will be below four digits. Melee will draw the most viewers by far, will be the main game next year, and be the only Sunday game in 2018. Also everything will run on time, Sonic (WITH CORRECT COLOR ARMS) will hand out juice boxes and animal crackers, and everyone will be really respectful of our needs and wants! 
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id also be okay with smash if a guy in a fursuit handed out juice boxes and animal crackers tbh
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i'm gunna help you all out because i actually know how to and have played competitive melee the game is very fun to play this way, if you know how and have others who know how to play against i'd rather put my eyes out with a giant black aids blood smeared dilldoe than watch competitive melee
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Fayk posted:The KI numbers are interesting - seeing a game actually grow in popularity like that, rather than slowly die off. (The SF number is relevant for different reasons since it's 4->5). I'm sure a lot of it has to do with KI coming out on PC this year. C. Everett Koop posted:I bet that no more than half the number of people who registered for sfv show up, and next year sfv will be below four digits. I will bet any amount of money that sf5 will be in 4 digit entrants next year.
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Dias posted:I mean, for all talk of Smash being "boring" and "taking too long" and "being filled with autists", it still gets more competitors than any non-SF game in TWO different games, and there is (or at least was) VERY little overlap between the two scenes. So it kinda deserves its main stage spot. Plus, I don't find it terribly boring to watch, it just runs way too long - and sets are rarely a blowup, so that makes it even worse. smash can run its own events. it always has. why does it need to be at evo. i mean i know why its because they feel it makes them legitimate and mr wizard has rotten fish guts instead of a mind
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Maybe the SFV numbers are overinflated, but no way it drops too harshly come next year. I kinda think it WILL drop tho, or at least stagnate.
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dangerdoom volvo posted:smash can run its own events. it always has. why does it need to be at evo. i mean i know why its because they feel it makes them legitimate and mr wizard has rotten fish guts instead of a mind because it's a fighting game like it or not and for the so-called "biggest fighting game tournament in the world" it's kinda dumb to not have the fighting game pulling the second and third best numbers in every tournament mr wizard hates it just as much as you all do but he also sees that i hope this was of help
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Jul 1, 2016 22:22
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shut evo down #shutevodown
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are they still loving playing four stock eight minutes and best two out of three?
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Pomp posted:No I'm talking about 4 stock on an 8 minute timer. 1 match can take as longer than an entire set for other games. this is especially funny because a lot of top smash players were complaining about burnout and how they should be able to skip rounds of pools because it was so tiring to play melee and then immediately turned around and asked that smash be best of 5 for top 32
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Kill Melee Save Smash 4 Then keep Pokken and make those the only Nintendo fighting games at EVO
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NecroMonster posted:are they still loving playing four stock eight minutes and best two out of three? Yep, which is frankly idiotic, I think the fourth stock comes into play like, one out of every twenty matches if that. It being 8min is "justified" by it deterring timeout play since it's quite easy to run away in Melee if you pick the right character. I'd rather have a 5min lameout than a 7:25min match with a conclusive ending tho.
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2 stock 2 minutes. I'd say 1 stock 1 minute but lmbo jigglypuff
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they should make doubles the standard format and play that at evo, it's often faster and there's actually a point to everyone having 4 stocks (more room to play with stocksharing)
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nah, doubles is actually enjoyable to watch, can't have that
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Jmcrofts posted:For a game to be in majors it must have A good idea would have been, instead of spending all the money they did on renting out that concert hall, they announced a 10 grand pot bonus for a classic game a few months ahead of time to highlight an old favorite. That's what I would do if I was mr wizard
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In Training posted:A good idea would have been, instead of spending all the money they did on renting out that concert hall, they announced a 10 grand pot bonus for a classic game a few months ahead of time to highlight an old favorite. That's what I would do if I was mr wizard karnov's revenge, evo 2017
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Dias posted:because it's a fighting game like it or not and for the so-called "biggest fighting game tournament in the world" it's kinda dumb to not have the fighting game pulling the second and third best numbers in every tournament
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if people really gave a gently caress about old games they'd get 2.5k people for marvel 2
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Here's Poongko and Aris fighting at CEO https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bC8AOlI2lH4&t=460s First time I've seen Akuma actually look pretty fun
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I think they tried to have smash be 3 lives 5 minutes but well that dog didn't hunt monsignor
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Endorph posted:honestly i'd be fine with smash if melee just dropped down to two stocks like smash 4 I've been a huge fan of this ever since that one Evo where literally the only matches in Top 8 Melee that weren't won by the person who took the first stock were won by Wobbles doing his ToD.
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i'm fine with sharing events with smash players if there's time and space for the rest of us dudes who don't play street fighter but there is never time and space for the rest of us
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