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Buttcoin purse
Apr 24, 2014

Samizdata posted:

I am saying I pretty much HAVE to restart Explorer every time I reboot (and more than once during normal sessions) to keep autohide working.

drat, which version of Windows is this broken?

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dont be mean to me
May 2, 2007

I'm interplanetary, bitch
Let's go to Mars


Buttcoin purse posted:

drat, which version of Windows is this broken?

Depends on what third-party jank he's got; I haven't had a problem like that since before Windows 2000.

IUG
Jul 14, 2007


I have the same problem only on my work computer with Windows 10. It's Dropbox, and reinstalling it didn't fix it.

Keiya
Aug 22, 2009

Come with me if you want to not die.

mostlygray posted:

You can't stop an NMI. The computer must respond in some way, even if it's another login screen.

The computer must acknowledge the interrupt. "Do nothing of note" is a valid interrupt handler.

I heart bacon
Nov 18, 2007

:burger: It's burgin' time! :burger:


Wanamingo posted:

You know you don't have to figure out Windows 10 by yourself, right? If you can't find something, then you can type your problem into google and it'll spit out an answer.

I was looking to type in 'IPCONFIG' on the command line. I changed my workstation to now have my laptop, netbook, and xbox one all together and connected to a switch. Google at that point wouldn't work, since it wasn't on my network. But yeah, you're right.

treiz01
Jan 2, 2008

There is little that makes me happier than taking drugs. Perhaps administering them, designing and carrying out experiments that bend the plane of what we consider reality.
So I went to high school in the early 2000's and the school computers had filters on them so you couldn't go to certain websites. The failure was that they failed to block command prompt, so you could type ping https://www.x.com and get an IP address, then type that into the address bar. The software wasn't sophisticated enough to block other pages within even the sites they had blocked, so once you got past the main page you were golden.

We thought we were such smooth hackers :smuggo: and most of my time in the computer lab was spent playing Armagetron and Doom over LAN.

Teriyaki Hairpiece
Dec 29, 2006

I'm nae the voice o' the darkened thistle, but th' darkened thistle cannae bear the sight o' our Bonnie Prince Bernie nae mair.
This thread and other parts of the internet convinced me that Windows 10 is best avoided. My ancient laptop kicked the bucket a few months ago, and I've just been using phone and tablet since.

Yesterday, I ordered this bargain basement laptop. No Windows 10! There are few choices out there to avoid the thing.

http://www.walmart.com/ip/Refurbish...sional/47085644

The same computer cost $1200 five years ago.

Collateral Damage
Jun 13, 2009

cheerfullydrab posted:

No Windows 10! There are few choices out there to avoid the thing.
Or you could just buy any laptop and reinstall Win7 on it.

Teriyaki Hairpiece
Dec 29, 2006

I'm nae the voice o' the darkened thistle, but th' darkened thistle cannae bear the sight o' our Bonnie Prince Bernie nae mair.

Collateral Damage posted:

Or you could just buy any laptop and reinstall Win7 on it.

There was also the cheap factor.

evobatman
Jul 30, 2006

it means nothing, but says everything!
Pillbug

cheerfullydrab posted:

This thread and other parts of the internet convinced me that Windows 10 is best avoided. My ancient laptop kicked the bucket a few months ago, and I've just been using phone and tablet since.

Yesterday, I ordered this bargain basement laptop. No Windows 10! There are few choices out there to avoid the thing.

http://www.walmart.com/ip/Refurbish...sional/47085644

The same computer cost $1200 five years ago.

That's my computer at work. Slap an SSD in it, and it runs really well. Windows 10 also runs well on it.

champagne posting
Apr 5, 2006

YOU ARE A BRAIN
IN A BUNKER

Collateral Damage posted:

Or you could just buy any laptop and reinstall Win7 on it.

Then pray the drivers will work card blanche.

dont be mean to me
May 2, 2007

I'm interplanetary, bitch
Let's go to Mars


cheerfullydrab posted:

This thread and other parts of the internet convinced me that Windows 10 is best avoided. My ancient laptop kicked the bucket a few months ago, and I've just been using phone and tablet since.

Yesterday, I ordered this bargain basement laptop. No Windows 10! There are few choices out there to avoid the thing.

http://www.walmart.com/ip/Refurbish...sional/47085644

The same computer cost $1200 five years ago.

So what's your plan for when Windows 7 is no longer supported by Microsoft and your computer gets dragged into a botnet?

Teriyaki Hairpiece
Dec 29, 2006

I'm nae the voice o' the darkened thistle, but th' darkened thistle cannae bear the sight o' our Bonnie Prince Bernie nae mair.

evobatman posted:

That's my computer at work. Slap an SSD in it, and it runs really well. Windows 10 also runs well on it.

It's definitely obsolete technology, but seems like it will do for my purposes (writing stuff, playing games from the 90's and early 2000's).

Teriyaki Hairpiece
Dec 29, 2006

I'm nae the voice o' the darkened thistle, but th' darkened thistle cannae bear the sight o' our Bonnie Prince Bernie nae mair.

Sir Unimaginative posted:

So what's your plan for when Windows 7 is no longer supported by Microsoft and your computer gets dragged into a botnet?

Is that really going to happen?

dont be mean to me
May 2, 2007

I'm interplanetary, bitch
Let's go to Mars


cheerfullydrab posted:

Is that really going to happen?

Happened with XP, and we didn't think XP's security model would become impossible to secure until it did, and if anything users have gotten more obtuse and obstinate since its heyday, not less.

treiz01
Jan 2, 2008

There is little that makes me happier than taking drugs. Perhaps administering them, designing and carrying out experiments that bend the plane of what we consider reality.

evobatman posted:

That's my computer at work. Slap an SSD in it, and it runs really well. Windows 10 also runs well on it.

Almost any laptop can be greatly improved this way, IMO. Now that I run SSD's in my gaming computer and laptop I'd never go back to mechanical primary drives. Still great for mass storage though!

Pham Nuwen
Oct 30, 2010



Boiled Water posted:

Then pray the drivers will work card blanche.

I'm not sure if this is ignorance or wit, but I like it.

dont be mean to me
May 2, 2007

I'm interplanetary, bitch
Let's go to Mars


treiz01 posted:

Almost any laptop can be greatly improved this way, IMO. Now that I run SSD's in my gaming computer and laptop I'd never go back to mechanical primary drives. Still great for mass storage though!

Mechanical hard drives aren't great for anything (they can be described as rust-coated glass platters which primarily exist to fail and, as a useful side effect, store data for a time), they're just least bad for storing terabytes of stuff in a fairly accessible format. They're also slightly less bad for long-term storage than SSDs since SSD data can decay if left unpowered for a year or three, but you should be using archival optical or archival tape or a 'somebody else's problem' server (a/k/a The Butt Cloud, and ideally archival and online) for that.

Fortunately economies of scale are driving down the cost of SSD components, so eventually platter drives should be unjustifiable by any metric, and I look forward to them being enshrined in this thread.

sebmojo
Oct 23, 2010


Legit Cyberpunk









Jerry Cotton posted:

Those gays and their porn am I right?

Their simply outrageous

Samizdata
May 14, 2007

Buttcoin purse posted:

drat, which version of Windows is this broken?

Win10 Pro x64. It seems to be tied to the tray display of my email program, but half the time Windows doesn't correct after I clear the alert. So, yeah. And I am not the only person that sees it. I learned the CTRL-SHIFT-right click thing from an article about said problem.

Anagram of GINGER
Oct 3, 2014

by Smythe

Samizdata posted:

Win10 Pro x64. It seems to be tied to the tray display of my email program, but half the time Windows doesn't correct after I clear the alert. So, yeah. And I am not the only person that sees it. I learned the CTRL-SHIFT-right click thing from an article about said problem.

I have a program with a tray notification behavior where it doesn't go away until I click it. Auto-hide stops until I do. I would hunt for the program with the aggressive tray notification behavior.

dissss
Nov 10, 2007

I'm a terrible forums poster with terrible opinions.

Here's a cat fucking a squid.

cheerfullydrab posted:

This thread and other parts of the internet convinced me that Windows 10 is best avoided. My ancient laptop kicked the bucket a few months ago, and I've just been using phone and tablet since.

Yesterday, I ordered this bargain basement laptop. No Windows 10! There are few choices out there to avoid the thing.

http://www.walmart.com/ip/Refurbish...sional/47085644

The same computer cost $1200 five years ago.

Those are fine aside from the absolutely terrible display - they're solid enough that you can use it as a pretty decent weapon in a pinch.

I'd like to say terrible displays are obsolete technology, but most of the current corporate models are just as bad unless you opt for the 1080p option which unfortunately isn't very practical given the state of DPI scaling in Windows in general (especially older apps)

atomicthumbs
Dec 26, 2010


We're in the business of extending man's senses.

Sir Unimaginative posted:

Mechanical hard drives aren't great for anything

nearline storage

atomicthumbs
Dec 26, 2010


We're in the business of extending man's senses.
the proper solution to "I need a cheap computer" is buying an old thinkpad T-4*0, T-5*0 or X-2*0 or maybe a dell latitude on ebay, and a little SSD to go with it.

I bought a scrap X200 from work with a spinny hard drive and it runs Windows 10 with surprising responsiveness, despite having a core 2 duo.

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

sebmojo posted:

Their simply outrageous

I heard one time there was a guy who looked at gay porns and then HAD GAY SEX!!!

Pham Nuwen
Oct 30, 2010



Jerry Cotton posted:

I heard one time there was a guy who looked at gay porns and then HAD GAY SEX!!!

This was RIT, nobody was having sex... Just collecting massive amounts of porn, at a time when 2TB means at least half a dozen hard disks dedicated to storing it all (2005). I'm pretty sure my hard drive was 80GB at that point.

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

Pham Nuwen posted:

This was RIT, nobody was having sex... Just collecting massive amounts of porn, at a time when 2TB means at least half a dozen hard disks dedicated to storing it all (2005). I'm pretty sure my hard drive was 80GB at that point.

I'm sorry you couldn't get all the gay porn :)

But seriously, dating back to BBSs, there's always been more porn available than local HD space and for a long time that seemed like a problem.

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

I just remembered when Shannon Doherty was a big thing and then someone up-loaded a Shannen Doherty sex clip unto all the local BBSs and it turned out to be a gay porn bit but the resolution was so low most people didn't even notice.

Trabant
Nov 26, 2011

All systems nominal.

Pham Nuwen posted:

This was RIT, nobody was having sex...

As a fellow grad, RIT is truly the gooniest school.

Pham Nuwen
Oct 30, 2010



Jerry Cotton posted:

I'm sorry you couldn't get all the gay porn :)

But seriously, dating back to BBSs, there's always been more porn available than local HD space and for a long time that seemed like a problem.

Direct Connect on a fast campus network back then gave you a taste of what the streaming future would be like: it was so fast to download stuff, why bother keeping anything except your absolute favorite movies (or porn)? Just download it again if you want, it'll only take a minute. I probably downloaded multiple terabytes worth of poo poo, but only kept a few of my favorite movies around because 80GB drive.

90s Solo Cup
Feb 22, 2011

To understand the cup
He must become the cup



evobatman posted:

That's my computer at work. Slap an SSD in it, and it runs really well. Windows 10 also runs well on it.

Mine too, complete with Windows 10. Bought second-hand for $230 a few months ago. Runs great but it could really use an SSD.

Platter Drives: The Very Best in (soon to be) Obsolete Technology™.

Buttcoin purse
Apr 24, 2014

Collateral Damage posted:

Or you could just buy any laptop and reinstall Win7 on it.

Not if it has a Skylake CPU - unless you buy an officially supported model, Microsoft says you can get hosed a few years earlier than everyone else using Windows 7. Presumably they're not going to prevent you running Windows 7 on one but they're not going to test their hotfixes or care if they break compatibility. I guess it's unlikely to be an issue but it sucks anyway. It's like Microsoft is spreading FUD about their own software :v:

dissss
Nov 10, 2007

I'm a terrible forums poster with terrible opinions.

Here's a cat fucking a squid.

atomicthumbs posted:

the proper solution to "I need a cheap computer" is buying an old thinkpad T-4*0, T-5*0 or X-2*0 or maybe a dell latitude on ebay, and a little SSD to go with it.


Unpopular opinion - the HP EliteBooks are a better bet than the ThinkPad X/T - the HPs are more durable and cheaper to buy off-lease

Teriyaki Hairpiece
Dec 29, 2006

I'm nae the voice o' the darkened thistle, but th' darkened thistle cannae bear the sight o' our Bonnie Prince Bernie nae mair.
Yeah I honestly think I went with one of the best under-$250 options. Have to think of availability and such when you're talking about the possibilities. Also, again, avoided the terrible-sounding Windows 10.

Teriyaki Hairpiece has a new favorite as of 10:06 on Jul 3, 2016

IUG
Jul 14, 2007


This thread is the only one I've seen talking about Windows 10 negatively. In the SH/SC Windows thread it's been overwhelmingly recommended to upgrade.

Buttcoin purse
Apr 24, 2014

In YOSPOS they argue Win 10 vs. Win 7 like people used to argue Win vs. Apple

Grassy Knowles
Apr 4, 2003

"The original Terminator was a gritty fucking AMAZING piece of sci-fi. Gritty fucking rock-hard MURDER!"

IUG posted:

This thread is the only one I've seen talking about Windows 10 negatively. In the SH/SC Windows thread it's been overwhelmingly recommended to upgrade.

As it has been a free upgrade for a year now, all of the willing-and-ready users have switched. At this point of the upgrade cycle, it's the people who A. have software/hardware with Win 7 dependencies or B. Don't like change. Everyone in group B thinks they're in group A, and most arguing for Win 10 only target group B, so rarely does any side think their concerns are being met in an argument. There are also the security obsessed who don't like the 'spyware' in Windows 10, but I'd seriously question the choice of Windows if that's the type of security concern you have.

I wouldn't expect the furor to die down anytime soon.

Humbug Scoolbus
Apr 25, 2008

The scarlet letter was her passport into regions where other women dared not tread. Shame, Despair, Solitude! These had been her teachers, stern and wild ones, and they had made her strong, but taught her much amiss.
Clapping Larry
I like 10 a lot better than 7, I just have to use legacy software that will not get updated to play nice with 10 until somewhere around the heat death of the universe.

KozmoNaut
Apr 23, 2008

Happiness is a warm
Turbo Plasma Rifle


Here's another one from everyone's favorite adenoidal brit:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=90ihiTwJPCc

Valdemar Poulsen is one of my personal heroes :denmark:

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atomicthumbs
Dec 26, 2010


We're in the business of extending man's senses.

dissss posted:

Unpopular opinion - the HP EliteBooks are a better bet than the ThinkPad X/T - the HPs are more durable and cheaper to buy off-lease

it's unpopular for a reason

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