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Anomalous Amalgam posted:I'm still skeptical of the claim, but perhaps the support you got was shine which would make sense given that I had no support and just had the 1 starting shine. Counterargument: Adahn claimed that he was loved, but didn't start with any shine. (He claimed to receive one Shine from inheriting a role, which is the same thing that happened to me, and he also got one Shine from my brew action). He was a backup, but I'd think the mechanic would be consistent if votes did equate to starting Shine.
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# ? Jul 2, 2016 23:43 |
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Maybe backups can't start with any shine due to the mechanic of inheriting shine?
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# ? Jul 2, 2016 23:46 |
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Anomalous Amalgam posted:I still need to answer VN's questions but that won't happen until late tonight.
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# ? Jul 2, 2016 23:48 |
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Flying Leatherman posted:Counterargument: Adahn claimed that he was loved, but didn't start with any shine. (He claimed to receive one Shine from inheriting a role, which is the same thing that happened to me, and he also got one Shine from my brew action). He was a backup, but I'd think the mechanic would be consistent if votes did equate to starting Shine. Too much speculation imo, I could see adahn getting loved and no shine since he's a backup. Anyhow I'll see you guys later. Date time!
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# ? Jul 2, 2016 23:56 |
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SirSamVimes posted:Maybe backups can't start with any shine due to the mechanic of inheriting shine? "You can get loved if people vote you in the Shine lottery pregame, and you'll get some Shine too, except if you're a backup" seems weird to me. I would expect it to work the same for everybody. (Also, you don't inherit all the Shine from the previous holder of your role, just one).
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# ? Jul 2, 2016 23:56 |
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Anomalous Amalgam posted:Too much speculation imo, I could see adahn getting loved and no shine since he's a backup. Anyhow I'll see you guys later. Date time! Treat her like a gentleman
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# ? Jul 3, 2016 00:08 |
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I was not loved d1 and I started w 1 shine
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# ? Jul 3, 2016 00:13 |
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I don't know why you would start with 1 shine and I would start with 3.
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# ? Jul 3, 2016 00:52 |
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why?
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# ? Jul 3, 2016 00:58 |
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A reread on Pig:CapitalistPig posted:I'm not sure why you are asking me this question while quoting a post that has nothing to do with adahn, but if you wanna get serioustalk. CapitalistPig posted:In fact I guess i'll start actually voting for not jokes. Starts D2 with this post: http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3780884&userid=86785#post461523397 in which he doesn't wanna vote AA, has a scum meta read on LD and cases + votes Moat CapitalistPig posted:Nah I was on the fence with you and I wanted to see how you reacted. I feel better about you, but you know who I don't feel better about? CapitalistPig posted:Umm , anarc, I am afraid it is you not making sense. CapitalistPig posted:LOL TQ, jesus christ him being an uncced cop should be the only reason you need as town. Stop being so loving dense. CapitalistPig posted:So write those two sentences! Throw your thoughts out and get it out there. Interesting to note this came about 12 hours after he said he had a meta scum read on her. In which time ~I~ don't feel like she did anything particularly reassuring. CapitalistPig posted:I am being efforty because I promised my close personal friend Podima I would put in effort and not just be my usual lurky shitposty self because he yelled at me. He reluctantly votes cat. D3: CapitalistPig posted:I am not sure if this means AA is lying or not. CapitalistPig posted:Right now my inclination is still that anarc is scum but moat's voting stuff was really weird. CapitalistPig posted:
CapitalistPig posted:this whole crazy confirmed masonry business is pretty convoluted and seems really gambity to me. CapitalistPig posted:I guess I kind of grudgingly accept this whole quid/TQ claim it doesn't really make that much sense as a gambit for them to throw all this out when there wasn't much heat on them because it is a pretty wild claim. This is his D3 rationale for voting AN: http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3780884&userid=86785&perpage=40&pagenumber=2#post461608658 He says his case on her was "fairly weak" but he certainly didn't act like it was weak D2. He also says she called someone scum in her post, but she really didn't. It's the only thing he says about her D3. She hardly posts. Then votes tpink D4 he takes early heat from AA and Jim. AA accuses him of tunneling. His response and another vote for AN: CapitalistPig posted:AA, really, I'm tunneling? You don't find anything scummy with anarc? Did you even read her? So.... I feel the majority of Pig's effort has went into AN. He has engaged in other things and he voted cc and pink. As far as I can see his case is basically based on her voting AA D2 and hasn't evolved much since then. I feel he has failed to provide evidence of her "engaging the game the way that scum engage the game". He hasn't tried to form any connections between her and the flipped scum or cased anyone else since voting her. He hasn't gotten on anyone else who voted AA. This sort of casework is indicative of either a fake opinion or tunnel thinking/confirmation bias. I'll also add that in my experience scum love hiding behind something that SOUNDS super true, but isn't in this particular case. Like saying NEVER VOTE AN UNCCED COP D2!! ~sounds~ super towny. (Unless you THINK about the specifics of this game for like 2 minutes, then you'll see that that rule really doesn't apply here). As always, would appreciate feedback.
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# ? Jul 3, 2016 01:16 |
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VivaNova posted:A reread on Pig: As always, would appreciate feedback.
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# ? Jul 3, 2016 01:25 |
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Here's a question: was anyone suspicious of AN on D1?
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# ? Jul 3, 2016 01:30 |
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JimsonTheBetrayer posted:I like your play style viva nova. It's the exact opposite of mine. I think me and you need to get together and start a super hero duo. I'll be the brush cool one who has fire powers and you can be the cool sciencey one. u suk
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# ? Jul 3, 2016 01:31 |
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my advice: be better
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# ? Jul 3, 2016 01:32 |
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Idk why were discussing this I gave this guys the list of scum. God.
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# ? Jul 3, 2016 01:52 |
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flerp posted:my advice: be better I'm trying not to engage you flerp so no one knows we are a scum team together.
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# ? Jul 3, 2016 01:53 |
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JimsonTheBetrayer posted:I'm trying not to engage you flerp so no one knows we are a scum team together. ok i posted it in the scum doc 2
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# ? Jul 3, 2016 01:58 |
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JimsonTheBetrayer posted:I like your play style viva nova. It's the exact opposite of mine. I think me and you need to get together and start a super hero duo. I'll be the brush [brusque?]cool one who has fire powers and you can be the cool sciencey one.
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# ? Jul 3, 2016 01:59 |
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Viva is right that I'm town and all the stuff she says is good points. However, making arguments that someone is town is not great case work. She might be scum that knows I'm town and is just talking about how towny I am to buddy up or gain town cred if I flip. Casing someone as scum is a lot harder than saying someone's town for such and such reasons. I am suspicious of viva
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# ? Jul 3, 2016 02:06 |
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AnonymousNarcotics posted:Viva is right that I'm town and all the stuff she says is good points. However, making arguments that someone is town is not great case work. She might be scum that knows I'm town and is just talking about how towny I am to buddy up or gain town cred if I flip. Casing someone as scum is a lot harder than saying someone's town for such and such reasons. I am suspicious of viva What did you think of my Pig thoughts?
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# ? Jul 3, 2016 02:12 |
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VivaNova posted:^^Feedback Auto correct didn't recognize brash
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# ? Jul 3, 2016 02:44 |
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Viva walked in and handed us a TPink read that got him dunked so I very much doubt she is scum. AN not considering that and just casing off that one post is susp
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# ? Jul 3, 2016 02:48 |
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JimsonTheBetrayer posted:Auto correct didn't recognize brash Quidnose posted:Viva walked in and handed us a TPink read that got him dunked so I very much doubt she is scum. AN not considering that and just casing off that one post is susp
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VivaNova posted:Ok, I accept your offer to team up. If flerp cases someone in the next few hours he can join too. You can also draw my av. I didn't ask before cause I felt like it would be too difficult since its animated. ok i have to write a poem but when im done w/ that im gonna find the scum
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# ? Jul 3, 2016 03:11 |
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Moatillata posted:AA tried discourage my re read when I was on the plane. This was right after I pointed out something weird he had said The post that this is in response to is clearly an irrelevant joke vote on my part, and even the reaction I made that led yo the joke post is not serious. Read it all again. No one discouraged you from a reread, you're fabricating something here.
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# ? Jul 3, 2016 03:44 |
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votefinder posted:Votecount for Day 2 It got to -4 minutes and there was no guarantee that there were enough people around to lynch CC. Pink sat out, so its possible other scum did as well, thinking they could swing a NL. NonCat voters: AN, Hal, SSV, MT, Quid, FL + flerp. Interesting sidenote: All four flipped town were on cc.
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# ? Jul 3, 2016 03:49 |
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VivaNova posted:Near the end of D2 I suggested that the boss on dong's boss list wouldn't want the field of candidates narrowed down and therefore wouldn't case someone on that list. A few people agreed with this principle. Since cc was boss of the scumteam, I think we can potentially now extend this idea to SCUM wouldn't want the boss list narrowed. This makes me think you, AN + Pig aren't scum. What do you think of this? I don't think that the narrowing of the list is relevant as you think. Maybe the scum wouldn't want the lists narrowed if their boss was among them, but ultimately it ends up irrelevant to determining who remains as scum. I'd focus on content and what seems genuine. As such, I don't know if both AN and Pig are scum but I think one of them is, and also Moat has some really empty posts.
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# ? Jul 3, 2016 04:09 |
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AnonymousNarcotics posted:Viva is right that I'm town and all the stuff she says is good points. However, making arguments that someone is town is not great case work. She might be scum that knows I'm town and is just talking about how towny I am to buddy up or gain town cred if I flip. Casing someone as scum is a lot harder than saying someone's town for such and such reasons. I am suspicious of viva This feels pretty hedge-y to me - the point against Viva appears to be that making town reads is easier than scum calls (true) but you're not really calling her scum / making a case so much as pointing out that you find one thing she did suspicious. AnonymousNarcotics posted:In Disney Princesses, infinitum did some fun and hilarious song writing which caused him to coast for a very long time. Turns out he was scum. I'm not gonna let someone get away with trying to entertain the thread to stay alive again. AnonymousNarcotics posted:I agree with this case. I actually got a lot of the same feelings from moats posting before I even saw this one. Moat is doing what scum often get caught doing - summarizing the game because it makes it look like they have content. He calls out someone for not scum hunting when he hasn't done any the whole game. He posts a lot about setup spec. I'm def getting a scummy vibe from moat. These are the two main cases that ANarc made but they were from a few days ago. ANarc - is Viva your strongest read at the moment?
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My posts are empty to match my head. I'm not really the type to do a viva or quid style analysis (though I do appreciate them) I'm normally pretty short winded and just respond to a certain point. Most of my votes come from gauging reactions. Like this:AnonymousNarcotics posted:Viva is right that I'm town and all the stuff she says is good points. However, making arguments that someone is town is not great case work. She might be scum that knows I'm town and is just talking about how towny I am to buddy up or gain town cred if I flip. Casing someone as scum is a lot harder than saying someone's town for such and such reasons. I am suspicious of viva Imo (and I think in many people's) viva has obviously demonstrated her town cred and this is basically an OMGUS without the vote.
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# ? Jul 3, 2016 05:17 |
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Moatillata posted:My posts are empty to match my head. Moatillata posted:this is basically an OMGUS without the vote.
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# ? Jul 3, 2016 05:40 |
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I think he's calling AN's casing you an OMGUS case since it was in response to your casing her, yeah?
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# ? Jul 3, 2016 05:46 |
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Anomalous Amalgam posted:I don't think that the narrowing of the list is relevant as you think. Maybe the scum wouldn't want the lists narrowed if their boss was among them, but ultimately it ends up irrelevant to determining who remains as scum. I'd focus on content and what seems genuine. As such, I don't know if both AN and Pig are scum but I think one of them is, and also Moat has some really empty posts.
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# ? Jul 3, 2016 05:49 |
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Quidnose posted:I think he's calling AN's casing you an OMGUS case since it was in response to your casing her, yeah?
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# ? Jul 3, 2016 05:53 |
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AnonymousNarcotics posted:Since I still haven't received any shine I guess I'll just claim bc I'm basically vanilla. I am an honest visitor. Visited dongs on n1 bc in my eyes he was the closest to confirmed town. Huge waste. Iiiii don't see this as being true. Interactions with Dongs on D1 from AN: AnonymousNarcotics posted:This is a super weird move on dongs part AnonymousNarcotics posted:##vote dongs this claim makes no sense Both of these are in the middle of he dongs claim. Inf had already claimed at that point, hadn't he? She unvotes because: AnonymousNarcotics posted:Jesus just caught up with that huge mountain of dung posting. Not exactly a rousing endorsement of her case being wrong, and when Dongs says she's scummy her response is: AnonymousNarcotics posted:Good case buddy Which, again, is pretty dismissive of your solid town read.
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# ? Jul 3, 2016 05:54 |
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And honestly, I don't know why she had such a town read of Dongs after D1. We didn't dunk Inf so we hadn't resolved the boss thing, and we easily could have gone into D2 still think they were full of poo poo unless one of them flipped. So where is this read coming from, cause it's not in AN's posting. I also don't understand why would you visit someone you had an inkling was town. Why does the alignment matter? Scum aren't gonna keep it secret, they know you're town already - they might not out you like Adahn did but having a town member know your alignment isn't that helpful because the rest of the game doesn't know they're scum. So AN I don't understand the logic of visiting someone you think is town. Can you clarify for me what you were thinking?
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# ? Jul 3, 2016 05:58 |
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Sorry, I've been gone for a long time me and my wife and our future roommate went looking at houses today. Uhm I don't rmb if I had ANARC on my list and my list is at work so I can't add him to it, so I still think Cpig is scum cuz he was on my list
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# ? Jul 3, 2016 07:24 |
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Anarc's claim just doesn't jive with me. Slamming lurkers has also had good results for us, but noone else seems to want to be on the Hal vote. ##vote anarc
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# ? Jul 3, 2016 07:28 |
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SirSamVimes posted:Anarc's claim just doesn't jive with me. Slamming lurkers has also had good results for us, but noone else seems to want to be on the Hal vote. ##vote anarc Hey ssv you have a lumpen? What's your reads? What do you think about AA? What's your favorite color?
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# ? Jul 3, 2016 07:34 |
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Moatillata posted:Hey ssv you have a lumpen? What's your reads? What do you think about AA? What's your favorite color? Hey Moat, what's your favorite color? I like purple
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Orange.
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