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Stretch Marx posted:Let's see if the Pylon-for-Picks sweetstakes strikes gold again. But Toronto didnt get Phaneuf back?
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I hate Roman Polak, but if the Leafs turn him into a pick again at the deadline I can forgive the move. RIP Corrado's ice time though.
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So apparently Matt Greene was only placed on buyout waivers to give the Kings a bit more cap space for a final run at Lucic. So I guess the D is back to Doughty-Muzzin Voynov in disguise - Martinez Blake-Greene
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Mr. Kite posted:So apparently Matt Greene was only placed on buyout waivers to give the Kings a bit more cap space for a final run at Lucic. Hello, I am Mr. Vonyov from some place far away! Huh. Doesn't work as well when you're name is basically a palindrome.
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Furnaceface posted:But Toronto didnt get Phaneuf back? That's my trigger word please respect my condition.
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I get that it's a one year deal and they'll flip him for picks which is fine but I really didn't want to watch another year of Polak. Sigh. I'm pretty okay with the Martin signing. Out of all the dumb punchmen in the league, he's probably the most useful so if they HAD to go get someone to do that nonsense at least it's not Ott or someone. Would've liked for them to have grabbed Parenteau again for another year though.
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Scaramouche posted:I think this is the first free agent fiasco where instead a bunch of articles about who won it's more about who lost and why they were really really dumb That Canucks didn't give out the dumbest contract and apparently they're not in on Kris Russell and basically I have to take that as the best-case scenario.
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DuhSal posted:I get that it's a one year deal and they'll flip him for picks which is fine but I really didn't want to watch another year of Polak. Sigh. I'm pretty okay with the Martin signing. Out of all the dumb punchmen in the league, he's probably the most useful so if they HAD to go get someone to do that nonsense at least it's not Ott or someone. Would've liked for them to have grabbed Parenteau again for another year though. Thing about Martin is that he is actually good at one real hockey thing, and it fits well with what Babcock expects out of his 4th liners. It's just that I don't really agree with the concept of having a line whose sole purpose is to get killed by better comp for ~10mins a night. And I certainly don't think you should give money+term to those guys. Right now Leafs fans seem most concerned that adding Polak will necessitate waiving Corrado, which I'm fine with because he's not very good and has no market value.
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I wonder who Sweeney is trying to peddle Krejci to for what will turn out to be a bad old defence mans.
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checksin posted:Has Ottawa signed an NHL player yet Mike Kostka is probably going to play 40+ games in the NHL, does that count
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Jedimastafez posted:Ducks did a thing! first you hired Carlyle and now you've hired Guenin...who cares that it's two way, it's still loving Nate Guenin
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The Dirty Burger posted:Mike Kostka is probably going to play 40+ games in the NHL, does that count A defenseman so bad the Leafs didn't want him. Koopa Kid posted:Wanting to sign Kris Russell for 4 years at any cost is a really good sign that the Leafs management team has lost the plot a little bit. On the other hand the Leafs didn't sign Russell and apparently the Bruins are trying to. Maybe Lamiorello was trying to goad Sweeney in to doing something stupid. grack fucked around with this message at 09:02 on Jul 3, 2016 |
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Drunk Canuck posted:https://twitter.com/HackswithHaggs/status/749433160165892096  Also someone please do a safety check on Duke and fateo if that is true about Boston and Russell. 
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Haggerty is unreliable garbage that likes to stir poo poo, I'm not going to believe this until I see others report it. Plus, I want to believe Sweeney isn't so dumb as to buy out seidenberg and then sign someone just as bad for longer. There's no way he's that dumb, right? 
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I wouldn't want Russell back at anywhere close to that price, but he's a good bottom-pairing defenseman who stepped up big-time in 2015 after Giordano got hurt. I suppose it's by virtue of that year's performance that he's going to get paid now.
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DuhSal posted:The Leafs have gone away from what they were doing last year a bit and it's kinda scary and annoying. I wonder if this was the plan all along (adding size and grit) or what ('cause they won't shut up about having a plan). To be fair, what hey were doing last year was a teardown and you could project anything you want on it. The return on the Kessel trade raised some flags for me, and it looks like they are just as enamoured with grit as everybody else. They haven't traded away all their prospects yet though, so that's something.
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Call Your Grandma posted:To be fair, what hey were doing last year was a teardown and you could project anything you want on it. The return on the Kessel trade raised some flags for me, and it looks like they are just as enamoured with grit as everybody else. They haven't traded away all their prospects yet though, so that's something. This draft year and offseason seemed to be a calling card of size and grit. I would put the blame on Lou but he's made some decent moves leading up to this offseason. It's one thing to add the size/grit/leadership after you've collected all the skill but I don't think we're even close to having enough skill to sacrifice for some size just yet. Our prospects are a lot stronger and skilled than the last regime but I don't think it's time to be trying to mold into the big bad truculent team just yet.
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Considering that they've stated that they're focused on the long term all these people (minus Anderson) seem like plugs until they can scout/draft/aquire more pieces. I have no exceptions for next year outside of the new players playing consistently and seeing how they do.
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DuhSal posted:The Leafs have gone away from what they were doing last year a bit and it's kinda scary and annoying. I wonder if this was the plan all along (adding size and grit) or what ('cause they won't shut up about having a plan). I think it's fair to be uncomfortable with what they're doing. The draft was weird, but at least it was clearly informed by some sort of plan and analysis. Giving term for Martin, bringing back Polak, and apparently being in on Russell, on the other hand, doesn't seem to have the same apparent justification. Even if Polak is someone to dump at the deadline, until then he'll be taking ice time from someone who could actually be in the future of the Leafs (Corrado, Marincin). Martin and apparently Russell come with four year price tags, on the other hand, which are very committal moves. Martin, I guess, is at least apparently very good at suppressing shots against and therefore fits with the way that Babcock likes to organize his lines ("checkers" distributed through the lineup instead of an isolated cheaking line), but Russell is just crap. So, like, this isn't a Dave Nonis catastrophe or anything, but if Lou turns out to have a bad run for the Leafs we'll be pointing to these moves as the start of it.
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Hand Knit posted:I think it's fair to be uncomfortable with what they're doing. The draft was weird, but at least it was clearly informed by some sort of plan and analysis. Giving term for Martin, bringing back Polak, and apparently being in on Russell, on the other hand, doesn't seem to have the same apparent justification. Even if Polak is someone to dump at the deadline, until then he'll be taking ice time from someone who could actually be in the future of the Leafs (Corrado, Marincin). Martin and apparently Russell come with four year price tags, on the other hand, which are very committal moves. Martin, I guess, is at least apparently very good at suppressing shots against and therefore fits with the way that Babcock likes to organize his lines ("checkers" distributed through the lineup instead of an isolated cheaking line), but Russell is just crap. I suppose if management is not comfortable with giving the prospects a bunch of ice time just yet and decided to shelter the kids with some vets then it could make some sense, but that's why you give these guys 1 or maybe 2 year deals, not 4. They are probably not up to giving Marner / Nylander / Matthews 25+ minutes a night just yet and realize next season is probably already lost too, so might as well fill the holes and give the kids time to learn and develop either with sheltered minutes or down in the minors. I know teams always overpay during free agency but it might have been better to do nothing? I guess the deals aren't horrific so we'll wait and see if it works out.
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You'd figure between Lupul, Bozak, Greening, Michalek, and Laich, the Leafs have enough gritty veteran oft-injured trash to fill in the bottom 6. But we're not Stanley Cup-winning hockey minds, so the Leafs brain trust deserve the benefit of the doubt right up to when they sign Kris Russell for 4+ years.
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I'm mesmerised that we live in a world in which Kris Russell is worth the term and price he's likely to get. I like the dude and will always pull for him since he took the time to actually hand me a puck outside the visitors' tunnel in San Jose and later signed it for me at a fan thing in Columbus, but drat.
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St. Dogbert posted:I wouldn't want Russell back at anywhere close to that price, but he's a good bottom-pairing defenseman who stepped up big-time in 2015 after Giordano got hurt. I suppose it's by virtue of that year's performance that he's going to get paid now. he made all his D partners statistically worse in calgary for the most part and the team gave up more high pctg chances with him on the ice. and he is a not good possession player. he sacrifixe his body and blocks shots because he misses coverage and cant retain puck in the D zone. i am lookig forward to sweeney giving him 5/24.
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https://twitter.com/alroy42/status/749711518355247104 So grandpa Lou not as senile as we thought?
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Call Your Grandma posted:
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Krime posted:The longer Schultz doesn't sign somewhere, the more I think he's going to come back to Pittsburgh on the cheap for a "prove it" contract. I imagine Cullen is their first choice, and if he goes to Minnesota then they'd try for Schultz. I don't mind the look of the d as is though. Warsofsky is a perfectly acceptable 7th d and Pouliot needs to play. I wouldn't be completely opposed to Schultz coming back but I'm also happy with what we've got.
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eXXon posted:the Leafs brain trust deserve the benefit of the doubt right up to when they sign Kris Russell for 4+ years. MLSE hit rock bottom and checked into rehab. They're doing the program, they're saying the right things and yeah they're still taking methadone, but once they check out of rehab, and their trust fund starts paying out again, they're totally gonna live on the straight and narrow.
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