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I upgraded to 10 and I think that it's really fantastic but then I got some crazy driver issues with my graphics card and couldn't fix them so I did a clean install of 8 and just haven't gotten around to upgrading again. I'll admit I don't know everything when it comes to computers, and I probably could have fixed it, but it was a headache for me.
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Honestly with MacBooks, Chromebooks, and over a decade of Microsoft mismanagement, thankfully Windows itself is obsolete tech for most folks who don't care about games.
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Or you know, 99% of the corporate world.
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Collateral Damage posted:Or you know, 99% of the corporate world. Or anyone who can't spring for premium laptops and buys the $199 walmart special which is basically everyone except inexplicably college students
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Last Chance posted:Honestly with MacBooks, Chromebooks, and over a decade of Microsoft mismanagement, thankfully Windows itself is obsolete tech for most folks who don't care about games. Masterful 
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Just to throw some feed into the pile, 99% of people who care about games also don't use Windows for games.
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Jerry Cotton posted:Just to throw some feed into the pile, 99% of people who care about games also don't use Windows for games. I'd go so far as to argue that most of the computing commoners don't need "real" computers at all - tablets, heir to the iMac throne of "I want something that looks nice on my table and sometimes lets me watch movies or order airline tickets" are a far safer alternative for the vast majority of humanity.
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Jerry Cotton posted:Just to throw some feed into the pile, 99% of people who care about games also don't use Windows for games. Those casuals don't really care about games. They're probably females.
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Exit Strategy posted:I'd go so far as to argue that most of the computing commoners don't need "real" computers at all - tablets, heir to the iMac throne of "I want something that looks nice on my table and sometimes lets me watch movies or order airline tickets" are a far safer alternative for the vast majority of humanity. This leads me to wonder where you expect interesting new software to come from. App stores and pleasure or curiosity projects don't really mix, and even universities lean more toward software-as-marketing than is likely to push informatics forward at a useful pace. Also, as much as I recognize that a lot of people really aren't in a position to wrap their mind around it (more accurately, they're probably cut out for it, because humans are profoundly versatile, but real-world time/money/focus demands are a hell of a drug) I'm on principle image-macro-upset with you for proposing taking general-purpose computing out of the general public's hands.
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Good and useful software isn't interesting.
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Gromit posted:Those casuals don't really care about games. They're probably females.
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Exit Strategy posted:I'd go so far as to argue that most of the computing commoners don't need "real" computers at all - tablets, heir to the iMac throne of "I want something that looks nice on my table and sometimes lets me watch movies or order airline tickets" are a far safer alternative for the vast majority of humanity. I think there's more than a few folks like me. Mid 30's and sick of trying to keep up with PC bullshit. I just have no interest in having a cutting edge computer anymore. I have a nice smartphone and a grandfathered unlimited data plan which, aside from a few things, it does pretty much everything I need to do on a daily basis. I also have a PS4 for when I want to play games. I've got a cheap rear end HP tablet/laptop thing that runs Windows 10 for when I need a bigger portable thing. And my 8 year old desktop that's still running Vista works for when I need a real keyboard and a bigger screen for something. Not sure where I was going with that but I tend to use many barely capable devices rather than one bleeding edge thing and its working for me. But I'm old.
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dissss posted:Unpopular opinion - the HP EliteBooks are a better bet than the ThinkPad X/T - the HPs are more durable and cheaper to buy off-lease Well, Lenovo's Adventures In Crapware has pretty much blown them as an option for me. FOREVER. (Once, I could forgive, despite the vulnerabilities it added. Twice? That's enough, I'm done. More's the pity. They were decent.)
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Grumbletron 4000 posted:Not sure where I was going with that but I tend to use many barely capable devices rather than one bleeding edge thing and its working for me. But I'm old. I'm former IT. My statement doesn't come from ignorance of the "computing needs" of the general population, nor out of some sort of misguided "lol plebs" poo poo, but out of a genuine feeling of gently caress-fixing-everyone's-poo poo. I'm so loving tired of every single computer problem anyone I know being pointed at me that I've started recommending people buy a tablet or perhaps a Fisher Price My First Computer if they can't handle their own poo poo.
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Exit Strategy posted:I'm former IT. My statement doesn't come from ignorance of the "computing needs" of the general population, nor out of some sort of misguided "lol plebs" poo poo, but out of a genuine feeling of gently caress-fixing-everyone's-poo poo. I'm so loving tired of every single computer problem anyone I know being pointed at me that I've started recommending people buy a tablet or perhaps a Fisher Price My First Computer if they can't handle their own poo poo. I wasn't busting your balls. Just offering the insight of someone who isn't necessarily ignorant of current tech but just doesn't care. I tend to just add a new, lovely device to my arsenal of obsolete crap to bridge the gap. I used to try and keep up with the newest and best but I found other ways to burn my disposable income. I was the tech support guy for my family once. It was hell. Now I just tell people to buy either an iPad, a cheapo Android tablet or a midrange laptop depending on what they ask me. Anyone that needs more already knows what they want for the most part.
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Jerry Cotton posted:Just to throw some feed into the pile, 99% of people who care about games also don't use Windows for games. 
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Grumbletron 4000 posted:I wasn't busting your balls. Just offering the insight of someone who isn't necessarily ignorant of current tech but just doesn't care. I tend to just add a new, lovely device to my arsenal of obsolete crap to bridge the gap. I used to try and keep up with the newest and best but I found other ways to burn my disposable income. Well yeah, you can do The Job (and learn The Job) with a 200-dollar store-brand TV and a Raspberry Pi or three, or hell, someone will figure out how to get people to develop software in a web app soon, if not already. Anything beyond is specialist tools or desire-driven. And you can't with thousand-dollar tablets. Computers are now fast enough that they'll usually be cast aside because some lesser material not part of the processing chain failed, or it was on full-tilt for 20 years and the circuits physically tore themselves apart, or not having some actually useful thing baked in (Vulkan looks like the next big one, now for non-neckbeards too thanks to WebGL, but it could be a decade or more off; that's how rare actually useful changes are), or some artificial feature-exclusion thing (which seems super wasteful to me) rather than being a candidate for the thread. Ironically, narrow-purpose computers actually sort of help here because whatever's on your desk has a much larger thermal envelope than something that has to be cooled exclusively by contact with air or desks or hands (which is what they're designing around now) and thus will be able to do more for several years yet. Your handling of this mess in your personal and social life makes sense, although I'd drop Android as a consideration; app writers designing for phone-first aside, the security and endurance situations on Android are epic nightmares and until Google starts playing hardball with the OEMs that can poo poo all over Android and take none of the heat for it it won't get better. Maybe Chromebooks; Google went hardball-first on those and it actually sort of works. Exit Strategy posted:I'm former IT. My statement doesn't come from ignorance of the "computing needs" of the general population, nor out of some sort of misguided "lol plebs" poo poo, but out of a genuine feeling of gently caress-fixing-everyone's-poo poo. I'm so loving tired of every single computer problem anyone I know being pointed at me that I've started recommending people buy a tablet or perhaps a Fisher Price My First Computer if they can't handle their own poo poo. Your handling of this mess is ... understandable, but war against the world is over the line. That feeling isn't going to go away on its own; talk to someone. dont be mean to me has a new favorite as of 10:06 on Jul 4, 2016 |
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Jerry Cotton posted:I always add any rare tracks I like I find on Youtube to a playlist so I don't lose them and whenever I look at the whole playlist there's always more and more videos that have been removed. Firefox extension: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/youtube-video-and-audio-dow/ Keep your hands off suspicious youtube-downloader apps you might find elsewhere on google, but Firefox extensions are 99% legit. Chrome doesn't allow extensions that have youtube download ability. DrBouvenstein posted:And there was also a DC++ server someone set up on campus, as well as a separate service someone set up to index everything in people's shared folders. It was fun to find something, and then just see what else they inadvertently shared. Since this was before even ubiquitous digital cameras, let alone smartphones, there was surprisingly very little homegrown pron. But since it was a tech school with a 3 to 1 male-to-female ratio, so you REALLY wouldn't want to see most of that student body naked in any capacity anyway. DC was amazing because it was so fast when you found a guy with a fast upload. I live in Denmark, and our neighbor country Sweden was a pioneer in fast broadband (20-100 Mbit) even 15 years ago, so often you could max out your download connection, and people shared a ton. Lots of movies, mp3s and the like there, good stuff. Haven't really used it much in 5+ years. I used to download the source code and alter it so that I could connect to like 100 hubs at once. Only took a few hours of fiddling with the godawful C++ code to just make it compile  .
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sinking belle posted:lol I really don't think that's what that post was trying to say, friend lol I really don't think my reply was serious, friend
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ishikabibble posted:Or anyone who can't spring for premium laptops and buys the $199 walmart special Yeah I would love a fancy super laptop with all the clangiest bells and screechiest whistles that would cost me around $2000, but I simply don't have the money. My last $200-$250 Walmart laptop lasted me 5 years, it mostly did the job, and I'm hoping the one I just bought does the same thing for the same length of time. Also I probably don't really need that Cadillac laptop, and neither do most people. I'll agree with that.
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Grumbletron 4000 posted:I was the tech support guy for my family once. It was hell. Now I just tell people to buy either an iPad, a cheapo Android tablet or a midrange laptop depending on what they ask me. Anyone that needs more already knows what they want for the most part. Try being the family mechanic, it's worse because the fix always involves physical labor. Oh and can you look at so-and-so's car they just had an accident and their AC doesn't work. Hey bud thanks for looking at my car I have a friend who has this noise when their car starts
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Gromit posted:lol I really don't think my reply was serious, friend 
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Pilsner posted:Start downloading as a habit, it's much better to listen/watch videos through a proper media player anyway. I like how no-one in this thread apparently uses several computers at different locations on the regular - which is the number one reason why one would add things to a playlist on a web service.
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Jerry Cotton posted:I like how no-one in this thread apparently uses several computers at different locations on the regular - which is the number one reason why one would add things to a playlist on a web service.
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Elsa posted:Try being the family mechanic, it's worse because the fix always involves physical labor. Oh and can you look at so-and-so's car they just had an accident and their AC doesn't work. Hey bud thanks for looking at my car I have a friend who has this noise when their car starts I was that too. My favorite is the old "Can you help me change my brakes? That only takes like an hour right? I'll get a pizza and some beers"! It ends up with me having to go get the parts cause they don't know what to get. Then I have to bring my own tools. I'll get there and have to work on a god damned gravel driveway. Inevitably something will go wrong. A bolt will snap off or something won't fit long after the parts store has closed. "Uuuuhhhh, dude, when's this gonna be done? I was planning on going some where tonight". Till its all said and done I'll wasted most of a day and be made to feel an rear end in a top hat cause the whole drat thing went sideways. gently caress that. I refuse to work on anybodies car other than my own now. I'm happy to offer advice though. "Hey man, my car makes this sound when I'm going up a hill and turning slightly to the left but only when its about 50° out on a Tuesday. Sounds like wubbawubbawubba-pa-ting-chumbawamba-pa-twooooooo". I just say "Ouch, better get that to the shop".
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Grumbletron 4000 posted:I was that too. My favorite is the old "Can you help me change my brakes? That only takes like an hour right? I'll get a pizza and some beers"! It ends up with me having to go get the parts cause they don't know what to get. Then I have to bring my own tools. I'll get there and have to work on a god damned gravel driveway. Inevitably something will go wrong. A bolt will snap off or something won't fit long after the parts store has closed. "Uuuuhhhh, dude, when's this gonna be done? I was planning on going some where tonight". I did this poo poo to myself; I know how to do some things, but I don't have the tools and the knowledge for a lot of the more involved tasks -- ended up loving around with half my cooling system hanging out, at 11 pm trying to figure out where my steady leak was coming from (it was a cross threaded connection) and sweating because I had to be up for work in a few hours.
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Jerry Cotton posted:I like how no-one in this thread apparently uses several computers at different locations on the regular - which is the number one reason why one would add things to a playlist on a web service.
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My Lovely Horse posted:Carelessly agreeing to receive a copy of Lord of the Rings led to me being handed a stack of six full-size jewel cases once. I've mentioned it before - but I made a single disc rip of Fellowship of the Rings that would actually play on a standard DVD/VCD player. It was terrible. But wow the amount of time I spent getting it ripped and encoded! EDIT: I remember going around electronics stores asking if they sold 'just VCD players' as I was broke and couldn't afford a DVD player (also only had a CD burner). Humphreys has a new favorite as of 10:54 on Jul 5, 2016 |
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I actually still have one of these.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zYNHnmCdmjI
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"Humphreys" posted:EDIT: I remember going around electronics stores asking if they sold 'just VCD players' as I was broke and couldn't afford a DVD player (also only had a CD burner).
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Sentient Data posted:Aside from the above answer, most probably did and didn't realize it - the dreamcast had vcd players available and it was certainly cheaper than a new ps2 or dvd player  Though these didn't really come out in the US since neither the VCD format nor the Sega Saturn were exactly popular here. Karasu Tengu has a new favorite as of 15:46 on Jul 5, 2016 |
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cheerfullydrab posted:Yeah I would love a fancy super laptop with all the clangiest bells and screechiest whistles that would cost me around $2000, but I simply don't have the money. My last $200-$250 Walmart laptop lasted me 5 years, it mostly did the job, and I'm hoping the one I just bought does the same thing for the same length of time. I work at a combination e-waste recycler and computer repair shop; we refurbish laptops and sell them with a 90-day warranty and a legal copy of Windows 7 or 10. $250 will buy you a decent, 5- or 6-year-old business laptop that will work better, be more pleasant to use, and be much less likely to fail than a $200 Walmart Chinese Plastic Special.
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atomicthumbs posted:I work at a combination e-waste recycler and computer repair shop; we refurbish laptops and sell them with a 90-day warranty and a legal copy of Windows 7 or 10. $250 will buy you a decent, 5- or 6-year-old business laptop that will work better, be more pleasant to use, and be much less likely to fail than a $200 Walmart Chinese Plastic Special. That's exactly what I'm buying! A decent, refurbished, 5 year old business laptop. Did Walmart do something to you?
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cheerfullydrab posted:That's exactly what I'm buying! A decent, refurbished, 5 year old business laptop. Did Walmart do something to you? They threw him out because he wasn't properly dressed.
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Jerry Cotton posted:They threw him out because he wasn't properly dressed. They spotted him a mile away with the ill-fitting "Who Farted" shirt with the torn up overalls - everyone knows Walmartians wear sweat pants, crocs and MURICA shirts now
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ishikabibble posted:Or anyone who can't spring for premium laptops and buys the $199 walmart special Student loan leftovers and parental cash make it easy to buy a $2000 Macbook Pro. Meanwhile, I understand why a lot of people go for the $199 Walmart special. It beats going to the library. Or using your low-budget smartphone all the time. Or hoping that $50 computer you bought from Goodwill is good enough to get the job done. These days, you really don't need to spend $1200+ on a laptop unless you're a business traveler or need a good laptop workstation. When my $1500 Acer was nearing death's door, I bought a $399 Gateway laptop Best Buy special. It wasn't the greatest, but it had better-than-average build quality (compared to what ends up at Walmart), better-than-advertised specs and it managed to last 5 years without falling completely apart. 90s Solo Cup has a new favorite as of 21:18 on Jul 5, 2016 |
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Sir Unimaginative posted:Happened with XP, and we didn't think XP's security model would become impossible to secure until it did, and if anything users have gotten more obtuse and obstinate since its heyday, not less. Weren't most of the machines that ended up in botnets running Windows XP FCKGW edition, which was blacklisted from security updates? I mean, you're not wrong about it, but I'd hope Microsoft learnt their lesson after how bad it turned out to be to have a blacklist for security updates. Instant Sunrise has a new favorite as of 21:24 on Jul 5, 2016 |
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Instant Sunrise posted:Weren't most of the machines that ended up in botnets running Windows XP FCKGW edition, which was blacklisted from security updates? Sort of (note that it's not a mistake they'd made since), but the security model fell apart all on its own even without that. The sad part is that MS still have to support industrial and cash register systems and things until 2019 because there are still companies today that refuse to support anything newer than XP and there are still people trying to fake being that to stay on XP at home. Still, what Microsoft learned is that idiots and assholes would rather put one over on Microsoft than have a machine that's not basically a hellmouth.
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BOOTY-ADE posted:They spotted him a mile away with the ill-fitting "Who Farted" shirt with the torn up overalls - everyone knows Walmartians wear sweat pants, crocs and MURICA shirts now Or just a thong (for men) or an adult diaper with tits tucked in (unisex).
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