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AMSP is in the lower half of Radiohead albums for sure if we're talking pure songwriting, I think a lot of what's impressive about it comes from the context of Thom's personal life, really. Releasing TLW, a song not actually about true love waiting but rather the constant anxiety that your lover is going to leave you over the tiniest little thing, after your girlfriend of 23 years has actually left you is a bone-chilling move. If you don't know the context the album just isn't as ambitious or interesting as their other stuff, maybe barely better than The Bends. And I don't care if it makes me a plebe, I can't stand Godrich's production here.
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AMSP is solidified for me in the upper half of their discography, not their peak but I still love listening to it more than I did TKOL at the equivalent point in 2011, and its best songs stand with the rest of their catalogue. I think DID and the Numbers are very different songs with different feels and I don't agree at all that they lack identity. DID is kind of eerie and evokes a trance being broken, and the numbers is a rabble-rousing 70's political song with awesome cheesy strings. I'll admit that TLW has not been getting as many plays though, the piano layering is impressive to me but I'm not in love with it anymore and sometimes stop after tinker tailor. Daydreaming would have made a better closer.
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My other persisting bugbears: that title, and that artwork. The title is just plain bad. I probably complained about it before here, can't remember, but it just doesn't work, because what shape is a moon? A circle? A sphere? A sphere-shaped pool? There's nothing specific about the shape of the moon that lends itself to anything being "moon-shaped". Something that is moon-shaped is also ball-shaped, or orange-shaped, or clock-shaped. Unlike, say, something being banana-shaped, which is specific and concrete. You dig me? It doesn't work, it doesn't scan. (And I'll never get over that missing hyphen.) I find the artwork so bland I find it somehow actively annoying. Of all the gorgeous stuff Stanley came up with this time, they went with that?
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Jul 4, 2016 05:51
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If someone is describing the shape of the moon, they often describe it as a crescent.
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A crescent-moon shaped pool would be an oxbow lake, or billabong.
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Ballz posted:If someone is describing the shape of the moon, they often describe it as a crescent. But that's the other thing. "A Crescent-Shaped Pool" would have been a much more specific image. But that isn't what the album's called. Why allow for that lovely ambiguity?
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it's not a moon-shaped pool it's a moon shaped pool as in it's a pool that's shaped by the moon as in it's the ocean this album is probably more about global warming than Thom Yorke's separation, looking back in hindsight. afterall, the separation occurred back in august 2015 while a whole lot of these songs debuted before. like sure, you don't have a loving relationship and then suddenly you end it but a large chunk of these songs are from 2009~2012, and a couple even before that. also Popcorn I gotta agree. the songs themselves aren't that bad but they sound simultaneously anemic yet overproduced. really frail and skeletal sounding peformances that then have these orchestra strings and godrich-isms draped over them. Automata 10 Pack fucked around with this message at 09:47 on Jul 4, 2016 |
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Mutant Standard posted:this album is probably more about global warming than Thom Yorke's separation, looking back in hindsight. afterall, the separation occurred back in august 2015 while a whole lot of these songs debuted before. like sure, you don't have a loving relationship and then suddenly you end it but a large chunk of these songs are from 2009~2012, and a couple even before that. At its best, it's absolutely about both, and it's about Thom giving up entirely on trying to resist both. I can't stop listening to Daydreaming at the moment, because it really sums up my feelings of hopelessness and futility about the future of this horrible country
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Mutant Standard posted:it's not a moon-shaped pool That would still be a moon-shaped pool, with hyphen. For example "hand-written letter" or "self-taught painter". Putting aside its shiteness as a poetic image, the grammar in the title is a gently caress-up. If there's one thing this album has taught us it's that no one understands hyphens. Popcorn fucked around with this message at 14:06 on Jul 4, 2016 |
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Jul 4, 2016 11:25
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Hyphens are some dogshit.
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it is a pool that is shaped like a moon, but the shape of the pool constantly changes to map the moon as we see it. when the moon is full so is the pool, when the moon is a crescent the pool is shaped like a crescent, when the moon is new the pool is gone
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Pool Was Shaped By A Moon.
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What did you guys think of Radiohead's latest album, The Billabong? I think it's a better title than Hail to the Thief, personally.
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I do have to agree that this is Donwood's worst artwork yet.
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It's ugly as sin
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I'm pretty sure I've listened to Staircase more than the whole album combined (well except Daydreaming)
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Someone has made a site thing where you can rank Radiohead songs for ever: http://thenumbers.rocks/ It's annoyingly absorbing. And the more people use it, the closer to the truth it gets.
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yes... finally a venue where i can shove my opinion of TKOL>AMSP onto others
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Pirate Jet posted:yes... finally a venue where i can shove my opinion of TKOL>AMSP onto others Umm, facts aren't opinions, dude. edit; Whoa nelly at that Pablo Honey section 
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Jul 6, 2016 05:46
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Rankings don't include B-Sides, list is poo poo
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Pirate Jet posted:And I don't care if it makes me a plebe, I can't stand Godrich's production here. Can you elaborate on this?
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 Thought this was funny. Aren't these the same song?!
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Louisgod posted:Rankings don't include B-Sides, list is poo poo Have to be on Reddit, list is poo poo
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AMSP is much better than TKOL, but TKOL's live renditions are great, much like how the already great Amnesiac studio tracks are even better when performed live.
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Do other NMD threads constantly dissolve into people ranking albums? this is uncanny.
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BigFactory posted:Do other NMD threads constantly dissolve into people ranking albums? this is uncanny. If we had a dedicated Frank Zappa or King Crimson thread, those would. Radiohead are an extremely popular band who changed their sound considerably, multiple times, over the course of their career. Their most critically successful albums came after their most significant reinvention of their sound. It's entirely possible to be a Radiohead fan while liking none of the same songs as another Radiohead fan. A constantly evolving, difficult to categorize band that a lot of people are passionate about for different reasons + no consensus among fans as to what their best work even is = lists lists lists lists lists. Rollersnake fucked around with this message at 02:00 on Jul 7, 2016 |
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Radiohead aren't very difficult to categorise really.
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Rollersnake posted:If we had a dedicated Frank Zappa or King Crimson thread, those would. Nah.
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Also fwiw, gently caress the AMSP final verdicts itt, for me it still stands up there with their best. It's effusive, remote, and still a little romantic. Detailed, but not in quite the overt way they've done detail in the past, such that the songs breathe and expand more than before. I really love it.
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I really wanna debate the rankings of all the albums here but I guess that makes me OCD.
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Rollersnake posted:If we had a dedicated Frank Zappa or King Crimson thread, those would. the prog thread is full of Crimson fans and it doesnt really happen. also they are kind of a different situation in that King Crimson has been several different bands over the years, under the same name and led by the same guitarist, but still different bands with different sounds.
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First soundboard recording of an AMSP gig here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mpcSmwdUV4s
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dat bloom
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Here's a cover of Radiohead's Airbag I recorded today.
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Popcorn posted:Jonny says he doesn't understand bands who complain about touring because it's great fun. I like doing lots of things, but if I was really good at one thing, and the people who paid me for doing that thing were like, "hey you have to do this tell it stops making us money or you go crazy" I probably wouldnt like doing that thing for a long while. Looking it up, touring OK Computer (and this was only after they started filming the doc) it was 104 dates long, and the amount of press they were doing was also way way way more then you would get from them now. AARO posted:Here's a cover of Radiohead's Airbag I recorded today. This is good, I learned this song a while back but I can never sing the "the jack knife juggernaut" part in anyway way that isnt completely awful. TheAbortionator fucked around with this message at 13:43 on Jul 20, 2016 |
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Part of it too was the pressure of how big OKC blew them up etc etc. It's where "How to Disappear Completely" came from due to Thom being so miserable.
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Boywhiz88 posted:. It's where "How to Disappear Completely" came from due to Thom being so miserable. It also came from the book.
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AARO posted:It also came from the book. Also through conversation with Michael Stipe, who was helping Thom work through his issues at this time
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Her Dryer posted:Also through conversation with Michael Stipe, who was helping Thom work through his issues at this time Yep. That's where the mantra/chorus of "I'm not here. This isn't happening" came from. Michael advises it as a disassociation/meditative technique. I actually have that tattooed on my wrists. One of my favorite sets
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You can download "Backdrifters", a free 30 artist 30 track album by Radiohead fans. https://ragdollcollection.bandcamp.com/releases My song Gaslighting is featured on the album. AARO fucked around with this message at 00:48 on Jul 26, 2016 |
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