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If it's winter, people might suspect the icicle angle. Break off an icicle, store it in your freezer, and then kill someone with it in June.
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Jul 5, 2016 04:41
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Wait long enough and the victim will just die on their own. The perfect crime.
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Zakrelo posted:Wait long enough and the victim will just die on their own. The perfect crime. The best part? You can even take out a life insurance policy on them and the insurance company will pay it! It's pure profit!
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Mraagvpeine posted:If time is not a factor, a murderer could go the slow route feeding their victim fattening foods and having them die of heart attack. Or get them to start smoking and wait for them to get cancer.
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Mors Rattus posted:Joliet, Illinois, Municipal Code Section 2-8 That's my home town, and this law needs to be enforced more often. Saying "Jah-li-et" is like nails on the chalkboard of my mind. In other news, it's great to see the Prosecution easing off a bit. This is the start of a bright future for Japanifornia.
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There was a Roald Dahl short story about an old woman who beat her husband to death with a frozen lamb leg, and then cooked and fed it to the investigating officer.
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Seems a bit dark for Dahl. Not that he had to only write one kind of book, but definitely not what I'd expect from the guy who wrote James and the Giant Peach. I have heard of similar stories, though. Makes working in a deli interesting, if you're in a morbid mood.
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Zerbin7 posted:Seems a bit dark for Dahl. Not that he had to only write one kind of book, but definitely not what I'd expect from the guy who wrote James and the Giant Peach. I have heard of similar stories, though. Makes working in a deli interesting, if you're in a morbid mood. Dahl's actually written a lot of adult stories as well (they tended to be short stories written for magazines)
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Zerbin7 posted:Seems a bit dark for Dahl. Not that he had to only write one kind of book, but definitely not what I'd expect from the guy who wrote James and the Giant Peach. I have heard of similar stories, though. Makes working in a deli interesting, if you're in a morbid mood. Dahl's stuff all has weird creepy poo poo it, like in The Witches (the book version) the kid is turned into a mouse forever, and he considered it a happy ending because now he won't outlive his grandmother. And in Matilda, Miss Trunchbull was sticking schoolkids in iron maidens. And I can't remember what goes on in Charlie and the Great Glass elevator, but I'm pretty sure it freaked me out as a kid because I never read it again.
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Zerbin7 posted:Seems a bit dark for Dahl. Not that he had to only write one kind of book, but definitely not what I'd expect from the guy who wrote James and the Giant Peach. I have heard of similar stories, though. Makes working in a deli interesting, if you're in a morbid mood. Yeah I have an anthology with that one in it. Trust me; Dahl was totally up for the weird poo poo.
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Dr. Buttass posted:Yeah I have an anthology with that one in it. Trust me; Dahl was totally up for the weird poo poo. I read lots of Dahl's stuff growing up, and bookstores tend to group books by author so of course my mom buys me that nice new Roald Dahl Omnibus in the kids section that I don't have yet. It was a little tough for kid me's reading comprehension so I didn't get very far into it, but a few years later I gave it a proper read through and maaannn that was a strange time.
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Case 4 - Turnabout Goodbyes Investigation (Day 1) - Part 1  Click here to watch the introduction in video.    : About that, yes.: 15 years is a long time to wait...: You can't imagine how much I've suffered...: You... suffered?: And now... the perfect opportunity presents itself. : What!?       : Do you know if there's any good waterfalls around here? : Waterfalls...? Dare I ask why? : Duh, Nick! Isn't it obvious? : I need a waterfall to stand under! Preferably a freezing one!: ... Oh... Is that part of your spirit medium training? : Of course! Except, I've been slacking off lately... I need to brave the elements and be forged anew under the rushing spring waters!: Umm... Okay... I don't know about any falls per se, but Gourd Lake is pretty close... : Oh. Darn.: Sorry, but them's the breaks. Couldn't you just take a cold shower or something?: ...: Good idea!She heads off. : (So much for the rushing spring waters...) : A large, unidentified animal was sighted at Gourd Lake! The town is buzzing with excitement! Locals are calling it "Gourdy" in a tip of the hat to Nessie, the Loch Ness monster. Though its namesake, Nessie, proved to be a hoax... locals are confident their Gourdy is the real deal. ...: *yawn* Bor-ing. Can't they show real news for a change? : ? : The water pressure's kind of low in that shower.: ... You want more pressure, huh? Why don't you go down to the fire department and have them spray you with the hose?: ... She heads off again. : (Apparently, E.S.P. is no aid in detecting sarcasm...) : Strange occurences continue at Gourd Lake... But this time, it's murder!: (Gourd Lake again?): The body of a man was found in the lake early this morning. A suspect was apprehended. Sources inside the police department revealed... that the suspect's name is Miles Edgeworth, age 24. Edgeworth was an up-and-coming prosecution attorney, known for his skill and connections. He was guaranteed a long and rewarding career... has he thrown it all away?: (...? E-Edgeworth!?) What's going on!? Edgeworth would never do something like--: Yipes! M-Maya! : The fireman yelled at me when I called him.: We've got bigger things to worry about than that! They arrested Edgeworth! : What? You mean, the prosecutor?: Yeah, he's a suspect... in a murder!  : When? Where? Whom? Why? How?: I-I don't know!: Let's go find out, Nick! : Well, what should we do?: What do you mean!?: Let's investigate! We should talk to Mr. Edgeworth, and check out the crime scene!: (You're right... We need more information! Save aimlessness and confusion for later!) : Well? Got any good ideas?: Not really. I do my best thinking when I'm standing underneath a waterfall.Descriptions have changed again, incidentally.  : Mia's favorite plant. Its name is "Charley." Maya's gotten the knack of watering it lately. Charley's been perking up these days. : Maya brought in a poster of the Steel Samurai the other day. We had a big fight over whether to put it up or not. I know she's just waiting for a chance to sneak it up on the wall. : Mia's desk. If we had more clients, I would probably sit here more often. Lately, I've been spending more time on the couch, watching TV. : Difficult-looking legal books stand in a formidable row. They mock me. I tried reading one, and it made my head hurt. When I closed it, it slipped out of my hand. Then my foot hurt too. : Looks like it's cleaning day again at the hotel across the way. I hear they're planning a second branch outside the city. I can see the bellboy, getting hte angle of that screwdriver in the drawer just right.Now, let's go meet with Edgeworth.    : We've all been in here one time or another, haven't we?: I guess it comes with the territory. : I'm not sure it's something we should mention to too many people...  : Hey! Edgeworth! Come back! : Nick, I don't think he's in a very good mood.: Well, he is in detention. Were you in a good mood when you were here? : So, you've come to laugh at the fallen attorney? Then laugh, laugh! : Well? Why aren't you laughing?: Nick... Should we be laughing?: Nah. It's a trick. Laugh and he'll get mad... or burst into tears. Edgeworth. We don't have so much free time we can spend it coming down here to laugh at you. : ... Yes you do.: (Actually, he's right.) : ...: I hoped you wouldn't come. I didn't want you to see me. Not like this.: (Hey, I didn't want to see you either, believe me.)We can take a look around, but not much is new.  : This guard monitors the visitor's room. He hasn't moved an inch since I came in. A real pro. Or maybe he's just nervous with Edgeworth in the room.Instead, let's chat with Edgeworth.  : Edgeworth. Tell me what happened.: ...: Why should I? What are you going to do about it?: Duh! we're going to help you, that's what!: ...!: ... Help me? You?: Don't be ridiculous.: Sorry...?: You're a novice! You've only been in three trials!: H-hey!: Sure, you got lucky and won all three...: But your luck's bound to run out some day!: You need real skill, Wright. Experience!: ...: Nick! He's insulting you! Nick? Why am I always the one who has to get angry!? : The murder took place at Gourd Lake, correct?: Yes... late last night.: The lake is a long way away from your offices and the court... Why were you down there?: ... I see no need to tell you.: M-Mr. Edgeworth! You... you didn't really...?: ... Gourdy.: Huh?: I went to see Gourdy.: "Gourdy"?: What's that!?: I'll... tell you later. (Why won't Edgeworth talk to us?)Maybe the badge will help.  : Edgeworth. Let me defend you.: ...: Hah! Hah hah! Good one, Wright. But I'm not that hard up. Not yet.: Wh-what do you mean by that?: Me? Trust a wet-behind-the-ears lawyer with only three trials under his belt? Never! : Wh-what!?: My case is near hopeless, Wright. Every defense attorney I've talked to has turned me down.: What?: Simply put, they were afraid they'd lose. It occurred to me that it might be my fault that they lack confidence.: After all, I did get every single one of their clients declared "guilty.": I don't believe it!: Regardless, I don't want you involved in this. You in particular I cannot ask to do this.Which opens a new question.  : Edgeworth... this is really hard for me to ask... But... you didn't do it, right? Right?: ... Think what you will. I have only one request.: Huh?: Stay out of this case. : B-but Nick is trying to help you!: I know...! I know that!: But I don't want your help, okay?: !!! Why not?: ...: Look, just go away, and leave me alone!And he leaves. : Nick... Mr. Edgeworth did it, didn't he.: Maya! Let's go investigate elsewhere.: But, Nick...You heard the man.    : Yeah. Gourd Lake is in the middle of this park.: I can see some police walking around in there.: Questioning people, probably.: Hey! Isn't that Detective Gumshoe over there?  : There's enough of us here! Anyone found anything?: S-sorry, sir... Nothing.: Idiot! The trial's tomorrow! We need clues, on the double!: B-but, sir... There weren't any clues... that's why we arrested that attorney, Mr. Edgeworth! It's clear, sir. He's the one who--: Shaddup! Just you try saying that again! I'll... er... I'll make you sorry if you do! I mean... just get outta my face, pal!: Y-yes, sir!: Detective Gumshoe's kinda scary today!: Recruits... peh! : ... : Aah!: Eek! : Hey, you're that Harry guy! Harry Butz!: Wright! Phoenix Wright! (Will he ever learn my name!?): And just what are you doing here, pal? Investigating!?: Huh? Um, well, yes. I suppose. : Well, I'm here to help! Ask me anything you want!: Bring it!: He seems different than usual. I wonder what's up?: Umm... Mr. Edgeworth hasn't actually asked us to defend him yet...: Huh!? : Oh? Y-you don't say...Let's look around some.  : I feel winter's chill from the bare leaf trees today... *sigh* What is it about winter that turns people into poets?: I don't know, but my toes are starting to feel numb.: (Yes... my poetry has that effect on some people.) : The sign says "Gourd Lake Nature Park." This place is full of families picnicking on the weekend.: But... no waterfall.: Not many picnickers come here for spiritual training, Maya.Question time. : Detective Gumshoe? Do you know what happened here?: Huh? You don't know, pal?: No...: Wow, okay, Mr. head-in-the-fluff-pink-clouds Lawyer.: Head-in-the... huh? : Never mind, I'll tell you. : It happened last night, about 15 minutes after midnight. : In that boat were two men.  : A cop who arrived on the scene arrested him.: How did he get there so fast?: Well...: There was a witness. When the report came in, we raced to the lake.: A witness? : You don't think Mr. Edgeworth is a... murderer!?: Absolutely not! It's impossible!: I don't care if there's a witness either! I don't believe a lick of it!: R-right! Who cares what the witness says!: (I care!): ...: You really believe in him, don't you, Detective?: Course I do!: But... the police are pretty sure he's the killer. Nobody's even really taking this investigation that seriously.: Oh no!: After all the help Mr. Edgeworth has been to us... Hard to imagine that no one's standing up to take his side.: Well, at least you are, Detective. At least you are. : I-is it true? No one will take Mr. Edgeworth's case?: Yeah... He's a bit of a celebrity. If you defended him, and lost, your reputation'd be sure to suffer. What's more...: The case against him is... well, it's pretty solid.: (I suppose it would be if they have a witness.): Hey! Pal! Don't tell me you're going to turn your back on him too!? Remember the Steel Samurai! Mr. Edgeworth helped you get your client declared innocent!: I... I know. I went to Edgeworth. I tried. He really doesn't want us to represent him. Especially not us, he said.: What!? W-well, that doesn't make any sense, pal! You should have heard him talking about you after the Steel Samurai case! He kept saying "Wright, Wright, Wright" over and over.: ... Nick?: I'm not sure that's a good sign.: Neither am I...: Why wouldn't he want your help? I don't get it. : Who was this witness?: Er, sorry, pal. That's confidential. anyway, the witness saw everything, apparently. I'm sure they'll turn up at the trial tomorrow.: Was there only that one witness?: Yep. It was pretty cold out on the lake last night. And, it was Christmas Eve after all.: Still, we're being thorough. You never know when you're going to turn up another witness. That's why we're here today, checking things out.: So far, we're coming up empty...: Oh! It's Christmas today! I'd forgotten.: What are you getting me for Christmas, Nick?: Talk to Santa.: Detective Gumshoe, sir!: What? Find something?: Um, no, sir. Not yet. But there was a call from the precinct. They want to hold an investigation briefing...: A briefing?: Right! I'm off!: Oh... Sorry, pal. I guess you heard. I gotta go.  : Well, yes. Do you have any information the victim...? : Sorry...: They haven't worked up the autopsy report yet. I'm still waiting for it myself.: Actually...: Say, if you get the time, drop by the precinct! We can talk more there, pal!And this leaves us off where the other thing starts.  : You're not coming back, Detective?: Erm... Probably not, pal.: so, what should we do if we have something to talk to you about...?: Ah, right.: Here, I'll show you how to get to the precinct. Come down and see me anytime.And now we can visit the police station. : Oh, hey! Detective Gumshoe!: W-what!?: Um, we'd like to take a look around in the park. Can we walk around?: Yeah! No problem, pal. You got my permission.He leaves. : You know, Nick. I think there's something to be said for talking to people when they're busy.: Yeah. They don't have time to think about not giving you information...: Right! Now, let's get investigating!Next time: Christmas In July New Orleans, Louisiana, Code Section 54-312 (Code 1956, Section 42-91) posted:It shall be unlawful for any person to advertise for or engage in, for a monied consideration, the business of (chronology, phrenology astrology, palmistry), telling or pretending to tell fortunes, either with cards, hands, water, letters or other devices or methods, or to hold out inducements, either through the press or otherwise, or to set forth his power to settle lovers' quarrels, to bring together the separated, to locate buried or hidden treasures, jewels, wills, bonds or other valuables, to remove evil influences, to give luck, to effect marriages, to heal sickness, to reveal secrets, to foretell the results of lawsuits, business transections, investments of whatsoever nature, wills, deeds and/or mortgages, to locate lost or absent friends or relatives, to reveal, remove and avoid domestic troubles or to bring together the bitterest enemies converting them into staunchest friends. But nothing herein contained shall apply to any branch of medical science, or to any religious worship.
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That shot of Edgeworth with the gun in his hand is the most soap opera image this game has put out yet. 
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Night10194 posted:That shot of Edgeworth with the gun in his hand is the most soap opera image this game has put out yet.
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Oh boy, we're nearly caught up, and I can start speculating again without guilt! Not that we really know that much yet, but I would like to say that one of my favorite Edgeworth bits so far is him in the detention center just arriving, glaring, and leaving immediately. Also this: Mors Rattus posted:
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Gumshoe is like a lost puppy here. You can basically see his spirit rising when he spots Nick, thinking Edgeworth has now a lawyer.Night10194 posted:That shot of Edgeworth with the gun in his hand is the most soap opera image this game has put out yet. Murder was in the night between Christmas Eve and Christmas. That's like double soap opera.
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That cop is super biased. To be honest I don't believe he's guilty either. But that's mostly because that would make a boring story and because I heard Edgeworth will stick around for a while. The surprise twist will be that he is guilty and will die, and those Edgeworth spinoff games are about some other Edgeworth. Has there ever been a whodunit where immediately everything is obvious and the suspect did it exactly the way everyone expects? Also, apparently "whodunit" is in the Chrome dictionary. cant cook creole bream fucked around with this message at 15:56 on Jul 6, 2016 |
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A whodunit where the butler did it and there's a reasonable motive that's apparent on the first couple investigative passes would be like an action movie where the 6 men with automatic rifles easily mow down the pistol wielding hero. Technically more plausible but why would you even bother writing it?
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So the person firing the gun is holding it with their left hand, but the picture of Edgeworth with the gun shows him holding it with his right hand. Is Edgey ambidextrous?
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Jul 6, 2016 16:10
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Falconer posted:So the person firing the gun is holding it with their left hand, but the picture of Edgeworth with the gun shows him holding it with his right hand. Is Edgey ambidextrous? Mirrored sprites.
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Jul 6, 2016 16:48
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Man, I'd kill for a world where Christmas wasn't advertised so heavily.
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Japan is certainly such a world... Christmas over there is pretty much just an excuse to party and visit KFC for most folks; no point advertising to the ~1% of people for whom it is a religious holiday.
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Ah this case. I re-watched the live action PW movie not too long ago and the majority of the plot for it is related to the fourth case so I know it's going to be nothing short of amazing.
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Mors Rattus posted:
Looks like some of Maya's sociopathy is rubbing off on Phoenix.
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Falconer posted:So the person firing the gun is holding it with their left hand, but the picture of Edgeworth with the gun shows him holding it with his right hand. Is Edgey ambidextrous? It's not like the cops have access to the 4th wall video of the murder. It would have simplified poo poo massively. Why is "to effect marriage" included in that New Orleans law? I do like the final phrase though. "Yes, this law technically outlaws doctors and churches, have a cookie and gently caress off"
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I guess the intent is that it is illegal to set forth your mystic power to force someone into a marriage without their informed consent because you mind control them. With your power, which you have set forth. I mean, that's the whole enemies-into-staunchest-friends bit, isn't it? Note that the religion line gives voudoun practitioners an out, which I assume is intended, because New Orleans.
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Hmmm... My guess is that the man shot himself in front of Edgeworth as an extreme way of framing him. Why he would go to such an extreme I don't know, but it would probably be related to how Edgeworth "always get's a guilty verdict". Like, Edgeworth got a family member into jail/executed or something.
I can have moments of... eccentricity and sometimes be quite curious about things. Please forgive me if I do something foolish or rude.
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resurgam40 posted:Japan is certainly such a world... Christmas over there is pretty much just an excuse to party and visit KFC for most folks; no point advertising to the ~1% of people for whom it is a religious holiday. And dates! In Japan, Christmas is largely a romantic holiday for the teenage plus crowd. New Years is instead the family holiday. Children still give gifts on Christmas though, I believe, as the commercial parts were successfully imported. Just not the religious or the centuries of winter solstice traditions that exist in the west.
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This is the case that really sets the tone for the rest of the series. It goes off the rails so fast.
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Also, can I just point out that Edgeworth has a loving tiny head:shoulders ratio in this shot?
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resurgam40 posted:Japan is certainly such a world... Christmas over there is pretty much just an excuse to party and visit KFC for most folks; no point advertising to the ~1% of people for whom it is a religious holiday. And the whole tradition of KFC is entirely the result of a single marketing campaign that for some reason worked REALLY REALLY WELL.
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I still find it kind of creepy that we've got commercials of some guy pretending to be Colonel Sanders. I mean, if it was just some mascot that took hold over the years, fine; but an actual living person?
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Waffleman_ posted:And the whole tradition of KFC is entirely the result of a single marketing campaign that for some reason worked REALLY REALLY WELL. I'd heard KFC was a big thing in Japan but the extent of it is apparently mind-boggling.
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Oh hey, this is finally past the point where I can post without worrying my avatar will spoil things. Man, looking back on the first game is sorta weird nowadays, knowing what parts of the formula will be dropped, which will stick, which are absent as of the moment and which will end up changed beyond all recognition. Even the tone feels very slightly off from what we've come to expect in the modern incarnation, though it's hard to articulate quite just how. Anyway, 1-4 is definitely a ride I'm looking forward to. The live action movie was largely based on this one (and, to a lesser extent, 1-2), and was by far at its best during its handling of it.
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Stephen9001 posted:Hmmm... My guess is that the man shot himself in front of Edgeworth as an extreme way of framing him. Why he would go to such an extreme I don't know, but it would probably be related to how Edgeworth "always get's a guilty verdict". Like, Edgeworth got a family member into jail/executed or something. Well, we did just wrap up a case where he made someone with mob ties look bad in court. Embarrassment is grounds for (framing someone for) murder, right?
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Regalingualius posted:Also, can I just point out that Edgeworth has a loving tiny head:shoulders ratio in this shot? I'm pretty sure the character designs for at least the first couple games were done by the same guy as Rival Schools, which was the same way.
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They intentionally hosed with the proportions (everyone's really tall and has big hands and so on) to give them more impact in the court battle scenes. They had to work with cartoony sprites on a really constrained GBA screen, after all. Doesn't hold up so well in higher resolutions or more "realistic" depictions.
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