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vainman posted:I'm not going to tell you how to enjoy sports but I feel like every year I see a fight and like a goldfish go 'that's the best fight I've ever seen'. What do you think the 80s had that today doesn't? I mis-spoke. I meant how lovely boxing has become compared to old timey stuff. Ignore me, I type with my face.
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There is a new foxcatcher documentary from the guy who did smashing machine on netflix and it's extremely good.
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What are the best books and documentaries on old school boxing?
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A Small Toilet posted:What are the best books and documentaries on old school boxing? THe book Unforgivable Blackness is really good
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Documentary by the same name is excellent as well if you were into that sort of thing too.
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I know MMA contracts are still a bit of a black box, but UFC (or Bellator or DREAM or what have you) fighters don't get any guaranteed downside money, do they? If you don't fight, you don't make a dime? Do they at least have a guaranteed number of fights per year? Seems like pro fighting is a bad way to make money.
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In order: Yes, fighters are not salaried employees, the UFC has to offer them a fight within a certain amount of time and if they don't I believe they can ask for and get a release (fighters don't have to accept the offer), and yes, pro fighting is generally a bad way to make money, which is why many pro mma fighters have another job. Also, DREAM is dead.
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It may be 2 but I beleive they try and get undercard guys 3 fights a year. But I could be wrong.
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LordPants posted:It may be 2 but I beleive they try and get undercard guys 3 fights a year. But I could be wrong. Three is normal but it doesn't have to be that way.
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I think they usually have to offer you 3 a year. You don't have to take them though.
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He expended too much energy and got tired
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Dangersim posted:I think they usually have to offer you 3 a year. You don't have to take them though.
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I always wonder how Dominic Cruz and Khabib and other dudes who were probably not already millionaires paid for their years and years of medical bills+therapy without fighting. Or does the UFC/some form of insurance cover that too?
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UFC provides insurance and Cruz was paid for his Fox gig.
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Jun 15, 2016 02:10
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Yeah, they hooked up Dominick on top of being an on camera analyst.
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That said... Cruz, as champ, was entitled to PPV points when the original trilogy fight booking was set as the Silva-Sonnen II co-main. He lost millions of dollars just from missing that one fight.
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With the USADA do you guys pronounce each letter or do you say like you-SAA-da? Dumb question I know.
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Memento posted:With the USADA do you guys pronounce each letter or do you say like you-SAA-da? You saw duh
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Jul 7, 2016 13:31
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The latter.
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Jul 7, 2016 13:32
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Do UFC fighters get insurance for people pulling out at the last minute?
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Neon Belly posted:Do UFC fighters get insurance for people pulling out at the last minute? As far as I know there's nothing formal about this, but in every case where a fight fell through for someone last minute because the other guy hosed up and the ufc couldn't get a replacement together, they paid that guy his show pay. It won't compare at all to what he would have gotten in sponsors, ppv points and other bonuses from actually fighting, but DC likely didn't bankrupt himself preparing for a Jones fight that didn't transpire.
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Bluedeanie posted:As far as I know there's nothing formal about this, but in every case where a fight fell through for someone last minute because the other guy hosed up and the ufc couldn't get a replacement together, they paid that guy his show pay. It won't compare at all to what he would have gotten in sponsors, ppv points and other bonuses from actually fighting, but DC likely didn't bankrupt himself preparing for a Jones fight that didn't transpire. I wonder if there's something in the contracts that prevents DC from suing Jones over this. That would be amazing fun.
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Dana said at the conference that even though theyve given guys their show money in the past, this time is different because Cormier gets paid a lot, and they probably dont want to be out $200k in show money or something for a fight that didnt happen when Cormier might just fight again shortly after Cormier could always sue Jones i guess lol
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Bluedeanie posted:As far as I know there's nothing formal about this, but in every case where a fight fell through for someone last minute because the other guy hosed up and the ufc couldn't get a replacement together, they paid that guy his show pay. It won't compare at all to what he would have gotten in sponsors, ppv points and other bonuses from actually fighting, but DC likely didn't bankrupt himself preparing for a Jones fight that didn't transpire. I was thinking not even done through UFC, but a 3rd party lost of value insurer. There are college football players who have policies that pay them millions if they don't get picked high in the draft, for instance.
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There just might not be enough of a market to draft those policies considering that maybe a dozen mma fighters could afford it
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The only concrete thing is if you weigh in you get your show money.
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Neon Belly posted:Do UFC fighters get insurance for people pulling out at the last minute? Jon Jones started fighting originally because he didn't pull out
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mewse posted:Jon Jones started fighting originally because he didn't pull out Sexual chocolate aint no do nothing bitch.
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What's the origin/meaning of the word "classic" in the titles of wrestling events? ("Dusty Rhodes Tag Team Classic", "CruiserWeight Classic") Just some old school carny poo poo? "It's a guaranteed classic, ladies and gentlemen, this thing that has not happened yet. Hurry hurry hurry"
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Cubone posted:What's the origin/meaning of the word "classic" in the titles of wrestling events? ("Dusty Rhodes Tag Team Classic", "CruiserWeight Classic") Just some old school carny poo poo? clas·sic /ˈklasik/ adjective 1. judged over a period of time to be of the highest quality and outstanding of its kind. "a classic novel" synonyms: definitive, authoritative; More noun 1. a work of art of recognized and established value. "his books have become classics" synonyms: definitive example, model, epitome, paradigm, exemplar; More 2. a school subject that involves the study of ancient Greek and Latin literature, philosophy, and history.
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DumbWhiteGuy posted:clas·sic https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XNJ1RHUnX9s
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DumbWhiteGuy posted:clas·sic
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[deep announcer voice] THE THING WE WANT YOU TO BUY WILL BE GREAT. MAYBE. WE DON'T KNOW. IT HASN'T HAPPENED YET
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It's not just a wrestling thing. See the world baseball classic and many bicycle races.
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In MMA a classic is any fight where someone we collectively hate gets killed or most recently Robbie Lawler spits blood while winning a fight.
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Phyzzle posted:It's not just a wrestling thing. See the world baseball classic and many bicycle races. To be fair, a cycling classic is usually a ~really old~ race unless it's one of the few ones that have come along recently. edit: but on the other hand, classic is also code for "one day race" so yeah, I get your point.
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most of the classics in cycling are at least 50 years old, some over 100. except for the prudential ridelondon-surrey classic but thats a stupid name for a stupid race.
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Crossposting here, just in case.Bluedeanie posted:Hey, I made this thread for newbies who might still be interested in MMA after UFC 200 but don't know or care about the pedantic poo poo we discuss in this thread. I hope it is useful for someone!
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what is everyone's favorite outdated piece of information from the op of this thread
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Most of it is still at least sort of relevant, it's a hell of an effort and even if it makes people say the wrong things at least they might then get corrected without anyone calling them too many names. RobBorer posted:Other guys to watch - Demetrious Johnson Some of it is pretty good advice, I wish more people would watch Demetrious Johnson fight.
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