FoxStrats posted:

Nintendo has been on a downward spiral since about late 2007. They realize that appending onto once-original-and-fresh franchises with trivially different installments isn't working, so they're attempting to woo their 90's fans with retro poo poo like rear end-backwards fight-sticks, if I can even call them that.

Nintendo was once great, but they refused - and still refuse - to compete in the arms race that other studios are waging on them, so they're losing a massive amount of fans; by assuming that their legacy would carry them, they've effectively granted the marketing department precedence to save some of the patrons Nintendo has left.

If that doesn't convince you, no other studio would come up with something this awkward and un-usable besides a titan on its last legs trying to come up with something new like they used to back in the 90s/early 2000s.

bebaloorpabopalo posted:

I mean it sounds like you have a lot of bitterness and resentment towards Nintendo and it's kind of pathetic but also,

that thing has nothing to do with Nintendo, dude.

CastDream posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iCOEw3MFWVo

88. A Continental Gale (Unknown Land [America]-Rock) 2:20:37

Edit: the Soul Blade/Edge stage themes are really loving good.

Serenade posted:

lol this is a melee stick and I think that means it won't work with smash 4

Coca Koala posted:

Nintendo produced a bunch of smash 4 branded gamecube controllers; a bunch of people play sm4sh with them.

They're literally gamecube controllers with the smash logo; there's even a special nintendo branded adapter that lets you plug the gamecube controllers into the wii u for smash.

They're showing this off with melee, but there's literally no reason to think that it wouldn't work with smash 4, I have no idea what you're on about.

FoxStrats posted:

Nintendo has been on a downward spiral since about late 2007. They realize that appending onto once-original-and-fresh franchises with trivially different installments isn't working, so they're attempting to woo their 90's fans with retro poo poo like rear end-backwards fight-sticks, if I can even call them that.

Nintendo was once great, but they refused - and still refuse - to compete in the arms race that other studios are waging on them, so they're losing a massive amount of fans; by assuming that their legacy would carry them, they've effectively granted the marketing department precedence to save some of the patrons Nintendo has left.

If that doesn't convince you, no other studio would come up with something this awkward and un-usable besides a titan on its last legs trying to come up with something new like they used to back in the 90s/early 2000s.

Serenade posted:

Hello, I am the token local hitbox user.

What the gently caress is that thing for, why is jump there, why are the two tilt buttons there, lol this is a melee stick and I think that means it won't work with smash 4

this is some mixture of the sunk cost fallacy and insanity

Pomp posted:

Nintendo haters have broke brains imo

FoxStrats posted:

Nintendo has been on a downward spiral since about late 2007. They realize that appending onto once-original-and-fresh franchises with trivially different installments isn't working, so they're attempting to woo their 90's fans with retro poo poo like rear end-backwards fight-sticks, if I can even call them that.

Nintendo was once great, but they refused - and still refuse - to compete in the arms race that other studios are waging on them, so they're losing a massive amount of fans; by assuming that their legacy would carry them, they've effectively granted the marketing department precedence to save some of the patrons Nintendo has left.

If that doesn't convince you, no other studio would come up with something this awkward and un-usable besides a titan on its last legs trying to come up with something new like they used to back in the 90s/early 2000s.

dhamster posted:

I guess because the gamecube stick is analog and smash cares how you move the joystick, you need four button for "tilt" movements and four for "smash" movements. Maybe it'd be better if there was just a fifth button near the 'analog' inputs which you could hold down to convert those to "tilt" motions? Maybe not, I guess. No idea why the "tilt" buttons wouldn't help you tilt the shield too, either.

FoxStrats posted:

Nintendo has been on a downward spiral since about late 2007. They realize that appending onto once-original-and-fresh franchises with trivially different installments isn't working, so they're attempting to woo their 90's fans with retro poo poo like rear end-backwards fight-sticks, if I can even call them that.

Nintendo was once great, but they refused - and still refuse - to compete in the arms race that other studios are waging on them, so they're losing a massive amount of fans; by assuming that their legacy would carry them, they've effectively granted the marketing department precedence to save some of the patrons Nintendo has left.

If that doesn't convince you, no other studio would come up with something this awkward and un-usable besides a titan on its last legs trying to come up with something new like they used to back in the 90s/early 2000s.

FoxStrats posted:

Nintendo has been on a downward spiral since about late 2007. They realize that appending onto once-original-and-fresh franchises with trivially different installments isn't working, so they're attempting to woo their 90's fans with retro poo poo like rear end-backwards fight-sticks, if I can even call them that.

Nintendo was once great, but they refused - and still refuse - to compete in the arms race that other studios are waging on them, so they're losing a massive amount of fans; by assuming that their legacy would carry them, they've effectively granted the marketing department precedence to save some of the patrons Nintendo has left.

If that doesn't convince you, no other studio would come up with something this awkward and un-usable besides a titan on its last legs trying to come up with something new like they used to back in the 90s/early 2000s.

FoxStrats posted:

Nintendo has been on a downward spiral since about late 2007. They realize that appending onto once-original-and-fresh franchises with trivially different installments isn't working, so they're attempting to woo their 90's fans with retro poo poo like rear end-backwards fight-sticks, if I can even call them that.

Nintendo was once great, but they refused - and still refuse - to compete in the arms race that other studios are waging on them, so they're losing a massive amount of fans; by assuming that their legacy would carry them, they've effectively granted the marketing department precedence to save some of the patrons Nintendo has left.

If that doesn't convince you, no other studio would come up with something this awkward and un-usable besides a titan on its last legs trying to come up with something new like they used to back in the 90s/early 2000s.

VigilantePrime posted:

If only there was an easy way of representing analog movements with an input device.

dhamster posted:

e: found this lmao

Real hurthling! posted:

no way

punk rebel ecks posted:

For what it's worth, Nintendo does tend to be at their A game when it comes to netcode. Splatoon and Mario Kart has some of the best netcode out there. Pokken is also solid. Smash could use some work, but could have been much worse. Pretty impressive for a Japanese company.

dhamster posted:

Zand posted:

this is the first ironic post i've seen you make

splatoon as an example of good netcA Communication Error Has Occured

FoxStrats posted:

cuck

Zand posted:

this is the first ironic post i've seen you make

splatoon as an example of good netcA Communication Error Has Occured

punk rebel ecks posted:

Seriously? I've never had that error ever and I've put dozens of hours into the game's online mode.

Zand posted:

splatoon has terrible netcode for real. like sometimes you can shoot high ping people for ages without actually doing anything. and i got that netcode all the time even when connected via ethernet cable. its actually one of the reasons I don't play it anymore...

Real hurthling! posted:

did nintendo make the pokken controller or did they contract that out?

FoxStrats posted:

Nintendo has been on a downward spiral since about late 2007. They realize that appending onto once-original-and-fresh franchises with trivially different installments isn't working, so they're attempting to woo their 90's fans with retro poo poo like rear end-backwards fight-sticks, if I can even call them that.

Nintendo was once great, but they refused - and still refuse - to compete in the arms race that other studios are waging on them, so they're losing a massive amount of fans; by assuming that their legacy would carry them, they've effectively granted the marketing department precedence to save some of the patrons Nintendo has left.

If that doesn't convince you, no other studio would come up with something this awkward and un-usable besides a titan on its last legs trying to come up with something new like they used to back in the 90s/early 2000s.

dhamster posted:

well that's part of the reason a smash hitbox is kind of a dumb idea, at least compared to doing an analog fightstick. then again that might be hard to work with too, since smash uses so many goddamn buttons

e: found this lmao

FoxStrats posted:

Nintendo has been on a downward spiral since about late 2007. They realize that appending onto once-original-and-fresh franchises with trivially different installments isn't working, so they're attempting to woo their 90's fans with retro poo poo like rear end-backwards fight-sticks, if I can even call them that.

Nintendo was once great, but they refused - and still refuse - to compete in the arms race that other studios are waging on them, so they're losing a massive amount of fans; by assuming that their legacy would carry them, they've effectively granted the marketing department precedence to save some of the patrons Nintendo has left.

If that doesn't convince you, no other studio would come up with something this awkward and un-usable besides a titan on its last legs trying to come up with something new like they used to back in the 90s/early 2000s.

FoxStrats posted:

Nintendo has been on a downward spiral since about late 2007. They realize that appending onto once-original-and-fresh franchises with trivially different installments isn't working, so they're attempting to woo their 90's fans with retro poo poo like rear end-backwards fight-sticks, if I can even call them that.

Nintendo was once great, but they refused - and still refuse - to compete in the arms race that other studios are waging on them, so they're losing a massive amount of fans; by assuming that their legacy would carry them, they've effectively granted the marketing department precedence to save some of the patrons Nintendo has left.

If that doesn't convince you, no other studio would come up with something this awkward and un-usable besides a titan on its last legs trying to come up with something new like they used to back in the 90s/early 2000s.