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Dr. Baker posted:You cannot show me the PWG ticket prices and convince me wrestlers aren't receiving their normal rate.
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Jul 15, 2016 23:59
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Basic Chunnel posted:It's never smart to be certain of such things in a business as carny as this one. That PWG has a collective-y vibe to it would only make me more incredulous I have no clue what point you're trying to make.
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Jul 16, 2016 00:48
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At PWG you might get some delicious pizza At AAW you might get some gloppy lasagna
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Jul 16, 2016 00:54
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It's not like AAW and PWG are in competition with one another so what does it matter.
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Jul 16, 2016 01:41
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It's the psp way. We must make sure everyone knows that a thing was always bad.
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Jul 16, 2016 01:45
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Dr. Baker posted:It's not like AAW and PWG are in competition with one another so what does it matter. The thing near me is better than the thing near you.
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Jul 16, 2016 01:52
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i just like riling up grozz
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Deathlove posted:The thing near me is better than the thing near you. let me tell you about a little thing called Oklamania
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Jul 16, 2016 02:04
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Dr. Baker posted:I have no clue what point you're trying to make. I think the point he's trying to make is that PWG's backstage might use their cult favorite status to lowball their talent in exchange for a sort of PWG bump of internet recognition that might help them get booked more easily elsewhere. I would say the fact that PWG is able to get such a wide variety of world-class workers is solid evidence that they pay reasonable rates, but then again people still work for TNA.
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Jul 16, 2016 02:19
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TNA still pays certain people on time. If you're big enough to be one of those certain people, or hosed enough you don't have much more opportunities, they'll go there.
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Jul 16, 2016 02:22
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I Before E posted:I think the point he's trying to make is that PWG's backstage might use their cult favorite status to lowball their talent in exchange for a sort of PWG bump of internet recognition that might help them get booked more easily elsewhere. I would say the fact that PWG is able to get such a wide variety of world-class workers is solid evidence that they pay reasonable rates, but then again people still work for TNA. Okay but even if that were true you could only lowball a guy so many times, right? Ricochet, Ospreay, O'Reilly, Hero and Liger aren't working BOLA for an internet rub.
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Jul 16, 2016 02:39
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Dr. Baker posted:Okay but even if that were true you could only lowball a guy so many times, right? Ricochet, Ospreay, O'Reilly, Hero and Liger aren't working BOLA for an internet rub. I agree, it's a weak argument.
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Jul 16, 2016 02:46
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El Gallinero Gros posted:PWG also has a deal with Highspots which probably cuts back on production costs for DVD's, where they make pretty solid money. Plus they probably get a small cut from the Highspots channel. Hero would make sense if he hadn't already lost to Sabre at Mystery Vortex 3 last year. Granted, Zack didn't have the title back then, but I don't think they're going to do another title change so soon and having Hero win and then lose the title shot immediately doesn't really help anybody. Sure it's kind of crazy that a guy who's been in PWG for as long as Hero has yet to win BOLA, but the goal of the tournament should be to elevate someone and he doesn't need it. Remember that Roddy hasn't won BOLA either, and he hadn't been champion despite being in the company for like ten years until ROH forced their hand and they needed to get the belt off O'Reilly. Cobb... maybe if he beats Trevor Lee in two weeks, but I have trouble seeing a guy that new to the company getting the BOLA win rub. Even Speedball had been on four shows before making the finals last year, even though his first win came the show before. The way I was looking at it is that there's a pretty small cross-section of people who are A) not brand new to PWG or close enough to it that they haven't won a match yet, B) haven't already won the tournament in the past (since there's never been a two-time winner yet), or C) haven't already lost to Sabre in PWG, because I really don't think the person who wins the tournament will go on to win the title (at least not with the shot they get from winning BOLA). Cobb will be one if he wins against Trevor, but otherwise the list is Tommy End, Sami Callihan, Mark Andrews, Matt Sydal, Will Ospreay, and Liger. Tommy's heavily rumored to be signed by WWE and BOLA weekend will probably be his last shows with the company, and I seriously doubt they'll fly Liger back in for a title match outside of the context of BOLA. Of the remaining four, I think Ospreay makes the most sense as he made it to the semifinals last year.
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Grozz Nuy posted:Hero would make sense if he hadn't already lost to Sabre at Mystery Vortex 3 last year. Granted, Zack didn't have the title back then, but I don't think they're going to do another title change so soon and having Hero win and then lose the title shot immediately doesn't really help anybody. Sure it's kind of crazy that a guy who's been in PWG for as long as Hero has yet to win BOLA, but the goal of the tournament should be to elevate someone and he doesn't need it. Remember that Roddy hasn't won BOLA either, and he hadn't been champion despite being in the company for like ten years until ROH forced their hand and they needed to get the belt off O'Reilly. Cobb... maybe if he beats Trevor Lee in two weeks, but I have trouble seeing a guy that new to the company getting the BOLA win rub. Even Speedball had been on four shows before making the finals last year, even though his first win came the show before. I think there's a need to get the belt off Sabre if he's signed with WWE, and if he has, Hero's a stable guy the crowd loves whom we know can have a great match with Sabre. Plus he's never won BOLA, and they've been wrestling each other everywhere with Hero sometimes winning. I think my issue with Ospreay winning is his body's in rough shape and he has his NJPW commitments, plus his time in the UK. El Gallinero Gros fucked around with this message at 04:55 on Jul 16, 2016 |
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oatgan posted:let me tell you about a little thing called Oklamania I'd really rather you didn't.
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Jul 16, 2016 04:52
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El Gallinero Gros posted:I think there's a need to get the belt off Sabre if he's signed with WWE, and if he has, Hero's a stable guy the crowd loves whom we know can have a great match with Sabre. Plus he's never won BOLA, and they've been wrestling each other everywhere with Hero sometimes winning. I think my issue with Ospreay winning is his body's in rough shape and he has his NJPW commitments, plus his time in the UK. The title shot means they could slot Ospreay right into the main event whenever he's available again, and we haven't heard anything concrete about Sabre signing the way stuff has been reported about guys like Ibushi yet. He's pretty in demand in both the UK and stateside right now, and WWE is never going to be the best environment for him to succeed on several levels even if HHH clearly likes him. Obviously a lot can change between now and September, if we know for sure Zack is signing then the entire calculus changes but I'm currently operating under the assumption that he'll be holding the PWG title for a while.
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Jul 16, 2016 05:26
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C'mon Msrty Scurll to win the whole thing...
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Jul 16, 2016 07:42
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Bring Vader to pwg.
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Jul 16, 2016 18:19
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Bring Vader to DDT
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Jul 16, 2016 18:22
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dont book vader
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Jul 16, 2016 19:21
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Super No Vacancy posted:dont book vader this is probably the smartest decision
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Jul 16, 2016 19:27
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Super No Vacancy posted:dont book vader some indie promoter said he came in, demanded his fee in cash on arrival, did 8 minutes without taking a bump, and took off after his match
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Jul 16, 2016 20:09
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Why do people not like Timothy Thatcher
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Jul 16, 2016 21:45
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NickRoweFillea posted:Why do people not like Timothy Thatcher Who the gently caress doesn't like Thatcher? I'll head but them. Thatcher rules.
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Jul 16, 2016 21:49
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NickRoweFillea posted:Why do people not like Timothy Thatcher Some people dont like to watch grappling or will couch that with "he sure is doing a great job grappling to complete silence" and well i disagree with those people and think they are wrong
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Jul 16, 2016 21:53
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Super No Vacancy posted:dont book vader hes fat
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Jul 16, 2016 21:54
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Luigi Thirty posted:some indie promoter said he came in, demanded his fee in cash on arrival, did 8 minutes without taking a bump, and took off after his match One of the AIW podcasts go into detail on how much of a pain in the rear end he was.
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Jul 16, 2016 21:58
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NickRoweFillea posted:Why do people not like Timothy Thatcher It's the surname. 
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Jul 16, 2016 22:05
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when Vader came to the local dirt indie he demanded more money, did all of the above, and raised the price of a picture with the mask from the advertised $0 to $20
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Jul 16, 2016 22:06
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Thatcher vs Roddy is my most anticipated match at PWG 13.
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Jul 16, 2016 22:25
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NickRoweFillea posted:Why do people not like Timothy Thatcher Idk who these people are but they sound like dumb idiots The_Rob posted:Thatcher vs Roddy is my most anticipated match at PWG 13. Also this
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Mob posted:when Vader came to the local dirt indie he demanded more money, did all of the above, and raised the price of a picture with the mask from the advertised $0 to $20 Ain't he great?
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Jul 16, 2016 23:09
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chuck taylor is dead long live dustin
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Jul 16, 2016 23:49
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Congrats go out to Dustin (Chuck Taylor) and Drew Galloway, your new Evolve tag champs
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Jul 16, 2016 23:53
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Chris James 2 posted:Congrats go out to Dustin, your new Evolve tag champs With whom? Dan Barry or Beretta?
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Jul 17, 2016 00:02
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Go Dust Go!
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Jul 17, 2016 00:20
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El Gallinero Gros posted:With whom? Dan Barry or Beretta? chuck taylor is mad about the success of his peers and began working for tna so that means he turned heel and joined drew galloway's team with ec3, and chris hero
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Jul 17, 2016 00:21
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oatgan posted:chuck taylor is mad about the success of his peers and began working for tna so that means he turned heel and joined drew galloway's team with ec3, and chris hero Awesome. Chuck rules.
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Jul 17, 2016 00:23
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Chris James 2 posted:Congrats go out to Dustin (Chuck Taylor) and Drew Galloway, your new Evolve tag champs can we stop giving TNA talent indy belts
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tna is good now
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