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Time has a bunch of disconnected cool parts and awesome vocals buried in a bunch of masturbatory nonsense. Not really optimistic about part 2. The self titled is unfuckwithable though.
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Hulk Krogan posted:a bunch of masturbatory nonsense. Jari in a nutshell
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henpod posted:Yeah, I agree. Self-titled is really awesome, each track is great and has its own flavour. Sure, there are a lot of synths and stuff but it's all solid and has some fantastic drumming to boot.
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Vargatron posted:I think what I was trying to get at is that some Wintersun songs sound like an eternity has passed before they finish. Or maybe it's my fragile human brain trying to process 128 orchestral tracks at once. No it's basically this. Time I would be quarter to a third of a fair album if it got brutally edited for all the meandering pointless poo poo and flat attempts at crescendo. Vulture Culture posted:Kai Hahto basically was that album and Jari took all the credit I always thought Jari just completely ran out of ideas and/or got way too caught up in technological loving around.
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Like the first loving track is 4 minutes of an orchestral buildup that never does anything, then Sons of Winter and Stars just THROWS SO MUCH poo poo at you at once, but not in a musical way. I mean I actually laughed the first time I heard it because it was so over the loving top. However, Darkness and Frost leading into Time is a pretty good transition and that song would have been amazing if he cut the 5 minute interlude from the middle. Land of Snow and Sorrow is a Good Track. There's my 3 line review of Time I.
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lol Destroyer 666 just made a long and not at all mad online Facebook post where they provided the addresses and real names of the metalsucks dudes and then asked everyone to buy more t-shirts.
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KK Warslut posted:Los Angeles,,a perfect storm to finish an amazing whirlwind tour. for posterity.
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Anyone who throws around the term "virtue signaling" is definitely alt-right so the rest of his claim sure has a bad smell
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When you post poo poo on facebook, make sure you do it with the least amount of Facebook possible. How did the mean people at MetalSucks hurt their feelings?
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^Couple of posts about KK's alleged connections to nazi/white supremacy poo poo. Which he totally disproved when he was like "hey everybody go gently caress up these Jewish dudes," obviously.
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Gotta point out that my favorite band just posted a song called gently caress My Way to Hell. I'm not even that into it on my first listen, but you can't beat that name.
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there's a new Agatus song and it sounds pretty good, big old heavy metal vibe: https://agatus.bandcamp.com/album/the-eternalist
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As much as I love Bandcamp, I really wish they added a volume slider. Their player is much louder than everything else on my system, so I have to fiddle with the volume knob on my speakers when I play their poo poo. It's a small issue to be sure, just a bit of a pet peeve of mine.
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Nordick posted:As much as I love Bandcamp, I really wish they added a volume slider. Their player is much louder than everything else on my system, so I have to fiddle with the volume knob on my speakers when I play their poo poo. It's a small issue to be sure, just a bit of a pet peeve of mine. I have this issue with Soundcloud
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comes along bort posted:Last Days Here and Such Hawks Such Hounds are okay. What's the doc about grindcore called? I think I actually like grindcore more because of the punk influence than I do death metal, not that I can't enjoy death metal, mind
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El Gallinero Gros posted:I have this issue with Soundcloud Also complaining about it somehow spurred me to try fix it, I reduced my speaker volume in Windows volume controls and cranked other things higher. Seemed to do the trick for now, though I fully expect to run into an issue down the line where something else is too quiet.  Oh yeah and this Agatus song is pretty great.
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second wave of MDF bands posted!Maryland Deathfest posted:Captain Cleanoff (Australia) RIP the Edison lot, though. Just two venues this year.
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So far I've been pretty underwhelmed with the lineup compared to previous years.
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wtf where am I gonna openly smoke  all weekend now
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CRIP EATIN BREAD posted:second wave of MDF bands posted! This sucks rear end, it's gonna be so hard to get tickets
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Hulk Krogan posted:^Couple of posts about KK's alleged connections to nazi/white supremacy poo poo. Which he totally disproved when he was like "hey everybody go gently caress up these Jewish dudes," obviously. Kind of interesting he specifies what kind of rocket science is the hardest: quote:Its really that fkn easy.It aint Nazi rocket science.
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COOL CORN posted:So far I've been pretty underwhelmed with the lineup compared to previous years. I think someone posts this every year
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CRIP EATIN BREAD posted:second wave of MDF bands posted! Great, how am I supposed to get my yearly tan now? Anyways, I'm pretty stoked about this year already. INSECT GODDAMN WARFARE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=luDkTZ2YMpI
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Already got a plan in place to snag two 4 day passes while I'm at work. 
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Hulk Krogan posted:^Couple of posts about KK's alleged connections to nazi/white supremacy poo poo. Which he totally disproved when he was like "hey everybody go gently caress up these Jewish dudes," obviously. Nice projecting there. I'm sure that's exactly what Keith meant, perhaps he also wanted people to "gently caress up" the "jewish dude" in his band while they were at it? Or maybe, as he said, he's not really interested in all that crap, and you're picking at words in a tired, most likely alcohol-fueled rant from a guy who's spent the last X weeks on tour and was currently receiving death threats on a schedule where everyone knows where he will be next, in a country where it's legal to possess firearms? You know, I've never, ever liked terms like "virtue signaling" and their ilk, and consider them lazy, venal attributions, usually given towards arguments that people either are unable to discredit via other means or simply wish to ignore without addressing; but people should realise that words used on the 'net, or in general speak in different cultural groups permeate differently, and your initial exposure to words may influence you into using them in a manner that does not necessarily reflect either your world-view or nature as viewed by another group. What am I getting at? Vulture Culture posted:Anyone who throws around the term "virtue signaling" is definitely alt-right so the rest of his claim sure has a bad smell This isn't true in the UK. It's used fairly freely without any allegiance to any particular creed. As are a lot of words that might signal a particular viewpoint to a US reader/speaker. There are of course, words that work in the inverse way. This is particularly muddied when people in an age where people read multiple viewpoints from various sources and pick up words that, in the context they are presented, do not pertain to have any moral or social standing, but in actuality, are seen as veiled/coded references to others. [edit] Feel free to hate KK, think he's a moron, childish, imbecilic, whatever. I certainly wouldn't have handled the issue in the manner it was dealt with, but hey, at least do it for valid reasons, eh? Saying "imagine caring what metalsucks thinks" is utterly cretinous when slander has real-life implications for your security - both in terms of finance and health. The Clit Avoider fucked around with this message at 19:54 on Jul 19, 2016 |
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Here's the thing about slander - there's already a remedy for it, and it isn't posting people's home addresses with the thinly-veiled implication that someone should cause them bodily harm. Metalsucks is a garbage site but they pulled the articles and apologized when it came out that KK was getting threats. In contrast, KK left his threats up for a good long while and when he finally took them down he replaced them with some silliness about bringing the war (more like the RaHoWa am i rite) to their door. Nice meltdown though. Imagine caring what random posters on something awful think about a guy that goes by KK Warslut. Hulk Krogan fucked around with this message at 20:10 on Jul 19, 2016 |
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Nordick posted:As much as I love Bandcamp, I really wish they added a volume slider. Their player is much louder than everything else on my system, so I have to fiddle with the volume knob on my speakers when I play their poo poo. It's a small issue to be sure, just a bit of a pet peeve of mine. According to the site itself it's a deliberate design decision, they wanna incentivize actually buying albums instead of just using the web player.
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El Gallinero Gros posted:What's the doc about grindcore called? I think I actually like grindcore more because of the punk influence than I do death metal, not that I can't enjoy death metal, mind Eh my memory sucks. It wasn't so much a grindcore doc but a promo put out by the old Hard N' Heavy video company. Also half the bands are just straight up death metal. But still it's an interesting time capsule. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yZODuF1Sy9I Vargatron posted:I think what I was trying to get at is that some Wintersun songs sound like an eternity has passed before they finish. Or maybe it's my fragile human brain trying to process 128 orchestral tracks at once. The thing that gets me about Jari's problems is Trey Spruance from Secret Chiefs 3 managed to put together even more complex stuff with crappier equipment, and made it a point of pride. In fact the liner notes of Book of Horizons had an offer to send stems to anyone with a G4 Power Mac, Digital Performer 4, and 120gb of hard drive space (lol 2004 technology) Alec Bald Snatch fucked around with this message at 23:42 on Jul 19, 2016 |
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Hulk Krogan posted:Here's the thing about slander - there's already a remedy for it, and it isn't posting people's home addresses with the thinly-veiled implication that someone should cause them bodily harm. Metalsucks is a garbage site but they pulled the articles and apologized when it came out that KK was getting threats. In contrast, KK left his threats up for a good long while and when he finally took them down he replaced them with some silliness about bringing the war (more like the RaHoWa am i rite) to their door. I saw this post before you edited it, but the tone remains the same anyway. I'm not having a meltdown at all - it's a bit tragic that writing more than a few words on a subject and explaining your position is just to be summarily dismissed by such petty adjectives to save addressing anything. As I said, it is absolutely could have been better handled. There's little to discuss there, I do think it's worth pointing out irregularities in mobbed group think though. nerve posted:Clit Avoider seems to care a lot what people think about certain metal people "Person seems to care a lot about a topic of discussion they're participating in" 
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There's a whole lot of posts in this topic. You people seem to care a lot about this metal thing. Heh, loving nerds amirite 
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Nordick posted:There's a whole lot of posts in this topic. You people seem to care a lot about this metal thing. Heh, loving nerds amirite Yes
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The Clit Avoider posted:I saw this post before you edited it, but the tone remains the same anyway. Why even't mention this then?  Anyway I did address your point, but I'll break it down again: Slander = bad. Death threats = bad. Passionately defending the honor of some dude who did one in response to the other = dumb. Calling it "tragic" when people point out any of the above without observing debate club rules or whatever = dumb. I hope this has been helpful. Edit: Also physically threatening journalists to silence them - even lovely ones who barely qualify for the title - is bad mmkay? Anyway a friend sent this to me yesterday and it rules. Sounds a lot like Misery Index (probably because it's the same vocalist/guitarist). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CMOafdZI3Yo Hulk Krogan fucked around with this message at 01:18 on Jul 20, 2016 |
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Look man, I didn't choose metal, it chose me.
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I finally listened to Tribulation (newest one with the rad cover and title I can't think of while typing this) on a short drive earlier and loving hell I love their sound. I expected them to have some silly weird bombastic thing going on but the slightly spooky post punk metal vibes they have slayed me. I'll be enjoying this for a while but I'm curious if there are any other bands that sound similar.
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Hulk Krogan posted:Metalsucks is a garbage site but they pulled the articles and apologized when it came out that KK was getting threats. In contrast, KK left his threats up for a good long while and when he finally took them down he replaced them with some silliness about bringing the war (more like the RaHoWa am i rite) to their door.. This whole debacle took place in what, a week? The dude was in Denmark, New York, Pittsburgh, Illinois, Texas, and California in eight days. The whole shitstorm was unexpected/unplanned. What's the "long while" you're talking about him leaving his comments up, a day or two? Just as quickly as MS pulled the articles, they also pulled the apology. The Clit Avoider posted:I'm not having a meltdown at all - it's a bit tragic that writing more than a few words on a subject and explaining your position is just to be summarily dismissed by such petty adjectives to save addressing anything. As I said, it is absolutely could have been better handled. There's little to discuss there, I do think it's worth pointing out irregularities in mobbed group think though. You're a good dude and wrote some very reasonable things. More reasonable than anyone reporting on it. The whole thing blew up with a few tabloid-metal-sites quoting a Google-translated Facebook post about his crowd-taunting at Metal Magic, then MetalSucks blew it up with a "reader response" article which was basically "this guy's a nazi!" They hammered the point with a few articles in a few days, which is pretty excessive considering they weren't responding to a statement or even a video, just some reports of off-color drunken banter. The senseless thing here is that there's no indication that "reporting" here is with a good intent - it's inflammatory clickbait trying to incite people (to click) and fit anything tangentially related into a wedge issue. Compare it to Neill Jameson's article on women in metal - a crass but honest statement with overtly good intent. There's no positive intent shining through here. MetalSucks seems to post the same stock article every time Varg Vikernes posts a YouTube video, and Metal Injection even wrote an scolding article about Phil Anselmo following a YouTube channel. They're not being benevolent, they're making GBS threads out clickbait. They're sleazy tabloids using anything they can as a wedge to get a response. Don't let them.
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