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Islam is the Lite Rock FM
Jul 27, 2007

by exmarx
Part of the problem with memory is shits getting too small. So very expensive to do shrinks past 20nm or so.

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feller
Jul 5, 2006


PallasAthene posted:

I think all those games are just to keep people from standing there silently with a beer in one hand and their other hand in their pocket. If your friends are so boring that you can't just have fun talking and drinking, why bother having them over?

big shock that a goon doesn't understand social interaction and group activities

Worlds Smuggest
Mar 13, 2010

Krispy Kareem posted:

So are you saying HR departments are getting eliminated through automation or are you saying automation in HR departments is going to make it easier to lay off employees? Come on, Future-Boy, make sense. You'd think 8 years of President Trump would make future-people's vocabulary simpler.

Basically, someone figured out a way to legally automate lawyer paperwork for HR so that you could Hire/Fire in scale. So instead of a grueling year long or even months long process to dump Departments of people, that entire section could be gone in 2 weeks with the push of a proverbial HR button.

I am not a time wizard. :tinfoil:

ZombieJesus
Feb 26, 2005

He died for your sins, he rose for your BRAINS

Worlds Smuggest posted:

Basically, someone figured out a way to legally automate lawyer paperwork for HR so that you could Hire/Fire in scale. So instead of a grueling year long or even months long process to dump Departments of people, that entire section could be gone in 2 weeks with the push of a proverbial HR button.

I am not a time wizard. :tinfoil:

Lol that's gonna last about three minutes before the lawyers of the people being fired tear it to shreds and get a big compensation payout

kazr
Jan 28, 2005

ZombieJesus posted:

Lol that's gonna last about three minutes before the lawyers of the people being fired tear it to shreds and get a big compensation payout

or maybe not and we usher in the next step if efficient capitalism

Worlds Smuggest
Mar 13, 2010

ZombieJesus posted:

Lol that's gonna last about three minutes before the lawyers of the people being fired tear it to shreds and get a big compensation payout

It's fully legit to do, basically they have worked severance into a boiler plate format and it's already legal to full shutter and do layoffs in this manner, this just speeds the process from an accounting perspective.

A Stupid Baby
Dec 31, 2002

lip up fatty

Iron Crowned posted:

I was sitting here trying to remember the last time I was in a BB and why. I got $100 for my birthday, and I bought a big rear end media rack that holds all of my media

I got a phone recently and apparently they just give out gift cards after a certain price which you can then cash in to pay the tax on the phone, so that was fine.

That's the first time I've been in one of those stores in probably a good ten years, back in the day when you could physically walk into a shop and buy computer poo poo.

The inside of BB reminds me a lot of Circuit City, 90% salesfloor for phones and phone bullshit and some sad little aisles way in the back with maybe some printers or something

Fat-Lip-Sum-41.mp3
Nov 15, 2003

ZombieJesus posted:

Lol that's gonna last about three minutes before the lawyers of the people being fired tear it to shreds and get a big compensation payout

Here's a little secret: Lawyers don't have a loving clue what's going on. They're staring blankly at the coming ice flow because they're dominated by aging boomers who know nothing about technology

Fat-Lip-Sum-41.mp3 has a new favorite as of 19:06 on Jul 16, 2016

Krispy Wafer
Jul 26, 2002

I shouted out "Free the exposed 67"
But they stood on my hair and told me I was fat

Grimey Drawer
There are a lot of factors that companies consider when doing layoffs. The amount of paperwork is probably low on that list.

There's stuff like, if you are publicly owned and lay off X percent you have to alert investors. So if you're trying to look healthier you lay off smaller batches, but if you're trying to boost your stock by "right sizing" you announce layoffs even if you don't have to.

If you are laying off so many people that you're HR department can't handle the load, then the company's got more problems than how they automate the processes.

BloodBag
Sep 20, 2008

WITNESS ME!



DemeaninDemon posted:

Part of the problem with memory is shits getting too small. So very expensive to do shrinks past 20nm or so.

I remember back in the 90nm days how they would talk about how hard it is to get down to 65nm. They'll figure it out.

Nierbo
Dec 5, 2010

sup brah?
wow digg is stilll around. Ayone remember the Digg buttons we had below posts on here

Moridin920
Nov 15, 2007

by FactsAreUseless
nvidia is already on 16nm

nigga crab pollock
Mar 26, 2010

by Lowtax
like ten years ago i remember them sayin its basically impossible to go below 15nm cause quantum fluctuations get in the way

lol

NihilismNow
Aug 31, 2003

BloodBag posted:

I remember back in the 90nm days how they would talk about how hard it is to get down to 65nm. They'll figure it out.

Problem is not that it is impossible to shrink (not yet anyway) but that the cost per transistor isn't going down like in the past.

Moridin920
Nov 15, 2007

by FactsAreUseless
just wait until materials sciences catch up imo

JB50
Feb 13, 2008

NihilismNow posted:

Problem is not that it is impossible to shrink (not yet anyway) but that the cost per transistor isn't going down like in the past.

Dutch researchers have discovered a method of storing atom-sized bits on copper with a density of 500 Terabits per square inch (Tbpsi) -- 500 times more dense than the best commercial hard disk currently available.


http://www.computerworld.com/article/3096810/data-storage/atomic-scale-memory-can-store-500-times-more-than-todays-best-hard-drive.html

Spazzle
Jul 5, 2003

JB50 posted:

Dutch researchers have discovered a method of storing atom-sized bits on copper with a density of 500 Terabits per square inch (Tbpsi) -- 500 times more dense than the best commercial hard disk currently available.


http://www.computerworld.com/article/3096810/data-storage/atomic-scale-memory-can-store-500-times-more-than-todays-best-hard-drive.html

Academic garbage.

Moridin920
Nov 15, 2007

by FactsAreUseless
There's a lot we can technically do, is it economically viable is another issue though.

Like we can clone meat from stem cells perfectly well afaik, it's just way more expensive than just raising some livestock.

ItBurns
Jul 24, 2007
People who wreck cars will be out of a job if Tesla keeps gaining market share.

Necc0
Jun 30, 2005

by exmarx
Broken Cake
I thought we were getting close to the point where electrons could start quantum leaping into nearby transistors or is that still a ways off?

Iron Crowned
May 6, 2003

by Hand Knit

Moridin920 posted:

There's a lot we can technically do, is it economically viable is another issue though.

Like we can clone meat from stem cells perfectly well afaik, it's just way more expensive than just raising some livestock.

Yeah, I remember my dad being really excited about "blue laser" technology in 1999, about the time DVD was beginning to take hold, and how much more resolution you would be able to get from it on a DVD disk.

Moridin920
Nov 15, 2007

by FactsAreUseless

Necc0 posted:

I thought we were getting close to the point where electrons could start quantum leaping into nearby transistors or is that still a ways off?

We are, but we have figured out ways to mitigate the effect. Even better, we realized that quantum tunneling could be used to our benefit if we can figure out what is happening and exploit it. I believe 10nm is under development by Intel and they expect commercial release next year.

Technical wiki article on the ways to mitigate if you care enough: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electromigration


At some point we'll have to jump off silicon chips and use something else though. Getting into nanocomputing now. Around 6nm is where silicon really starts to be unworkable iirc.

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Trojan.exe
Feb 22, 2011

I never said I was a role model

Fabricated posted:

tumblr makes money?

Yes, there are sponsored posts on there. I don't use tumblr that much though in recent years. Only use it to keep pictures I like in one place, I don't talk to anyone on there, but yea, ever since Yahoo acquired Tumblr there have been a lot more sponsored ads via posts and stuff or company tumblr blogs. Vogue shows up a lot for one.

Helical Nightmares posted:

Twitter

Chipotle

Honestly I'd bet Barnes and Noble but I haven't checked recently. Not sure how they are competing with the megapower Amazon.

B&N has not been doing well recently, but they have managed to stay afloat a little bit with their toy section. Adult colouring books have also helped since there's been a ton of sales for that.

I've heard a few B&N stores are going to open up restaurants inside them, more importantly restaurants that also serve booze, which is honestly a brilliant idea if you want to drive more people there to buy books in store. I have certainly been compelled to buy books on the spot more often thanks to cafes inside of B&N, my wallet will be at the stores mercy if wine or beer is involved.

PallasAthene
Dec 6, 2010

Why, vixen, have you again set the gods by the ears in the pride and haughtiness of your heart?

Trojan.exe posted:

I have certainly been compelled to buy books on the spot more often thanks to cafes inside of B&N...

If I spend more time at the B&N cafe than I would at a normal Starbucks, etc, then I feel like I owe it to the store to buy at least a softcover book. The guilt factor goes up with every pile of gaming mags and manga left read but not purchased on the empty tables around me. God knows how many books I've bought during Puget Sound winters because I just like the feeling of sitting at a little table in a warm room full of books and soft conversation while it rained or snowed outside...now I'm going to be really sad if B&N doesn't make it, and I'll feel bad about all the times I waited till something I wanted to read showed up at Half Price Books.

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014


i worked as a receiving manager for barnes and noble for 8 years and i'm shocked the place is still around. the guy they brought it as ceo to do the whole nook and digital thing had no idea what he was doing (he was from palm to give some idea).

naem
May 29, 2011

Borders and b&n big box stores with cafes both sprang up to take advantage of the traditional small book store's former model of "a gross damp hole"

They were both a great place to spend a dollar on coffee and do homework for 3 hours in air conditioning

Iron Crowned
May 6, 2003

by Hand Knit

naem posted:

Borders and b&n big box stores with cafes both sprang up to take advantage of the traditional small book store's former model of "a gross damp hole"

They were both a great place to spend a dollar on coffee and do homework for 3 hours in air conditioning

Why would you talk about your mother like that?

Ferdinand Bardamu
Apr 30, 2013

Trojan.exe posted:

Adult colouring books

:lol:

The city I lived in in Italy had 100,000 residents and 19 bookstores. The university towns I currently live in (combined population 70,000) have zero combined. Borders and B&N opened at nearly the same time, killed the two local, established bookstores then died themselves. Now we are left with Cash for Gold, Party City, Ross Dress for Less and the former Old Navy store that masquerades as a Halloween store six weeks per year. I think it was naem upthread that pointed out how you use to be able to kill a lazy Saturday by going to Borders/B&N, Blockbuster, Best Buy, Caribou, record stores, etc. I miss those days. :3:

One of the only places left to kill 4 hours while reading or doing homework is Panera. I nominate them as a company circling the drain. They just cut the number of items on their menu to try to focus on what they do well (lmbo) but gently caress if they still haven't figured out how not to confuse customers' orders on a regular basis. Or make bread that doesn't taste like plastic.

Tashan Dorrsett
Apr 10, 2015

by Deplorable exmarx

i worked in a warehouse like this for a little while for a popular video game company with a cell phone game that's really popular right now. they would lay off 50-300 people a week and a lot of those people would kill themselves. they were definitely circling the drain until the cell phone game came out.

Islam is the Lite Rock FM
Jul 27, 2007

by exmarx

Moridin920 posted:

There's a lot we can technically do, is it economically viable is another issue though.

Like we can clone meat from stem cells perfectly well afaik, it's just way more expensive than just raising some livestock.

Yeah part of the problem is being able to make the device yield acceptable. You can make an atom-level storage device but how many failures did you get?

I'm sure the current 'barrier' is just a hurdle or maybe even a fork off into another technology. We'll figure out how to break into xnm scale and if we don't we'll do something else. I actually work in r&d and see all sorts of nifty technologies. Some are pretty interesting to me, a scientist, but probably won't ever see practical application.

Burt Sexual
Jan 26, 2006

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Switchblade Switcharoo

WaryWarren posted:

:lol:

The city I lived in in Italy had 100,000 residents and 19 bookstores. The university towns I currently live in (combined population 70,000) have zero combined. Borders and B&N opened at nearly the same time, killed the two local, established bookstores then died themselves. Now we are left with Cash for Gold, Party City, Ross Dress for Less and the former Old Navy store that masquerades as a Halloween store six weeks per year. I think it was naem upthread that pointed out how you use to be able to kill a lazy Saturday by going to Borders/B&N, Blockbuster, Best Buy, Caribou, record stores, etc. I miss those days. :3:

One of the only places left to kill 4 hours while reading or doing homework is Panera. I nominate them as a company circling the drain. They just cut the number of items on their menu to try to focus on what they do well (lmbo) but gently caress if they still haven't figured out how not to confuse customers' orders on a regular basis. Or make bread that doesn't taste like plastic.

Why do you "hang" in a retail establishment for 4 hours?

naem
May 29, 2011

Darth123123 posted:

Why do you "hang" in a retail establishment for 4 hours?

There used to be this thing where you go outside of your house/apt and do stuff on purpose instead of tapping your phone and boxes show up at your house

Several businesses catered to this trend to create a pleasant atmosphere as part of their sales strategy, one could spend ones leisure sipping coffee and reading while shopping (leisure was a period of deliberate non-labor undertaken for pleasure that was once granted by employers)

Burt Sexual
Jan 26, 2006

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Switchblade Switcharoo

naem posted:

There used to be this thing where you go outside of your house/apt and do stuff on purpose instead of tapping your phone and boxes show up at your house

Several businesses catered to this trend to create a pleasant atmosphere as part of their sales strategy, one could spend ones leisure sipping coffee and reading while shopping (leisure was a period of deliberate non-labor undertaken for pleasure that was once granted by employers)

I do that, but not at a business because I have places to go besides a borders or Starbucks.

KiteAuraan
Aug 5, 2014

JER GEDDA FERDA RADDA ARA!


Darth123123 posted:

Why do you "hang" in a retail establishment for 4 hours?

Because you live in a lovely loving suburb and there is no library.

PallasAthene
Dec 6, 2010

Why, vixen, have you again set the gods by the ears in the pride and haughtiness of your heart?

KiteAuraan posted:

Because you live in a lovely loving suburb and there is no library.

Or because there is a library but it's full of schizophrenic hobos, loud, obnoxious teenagers, and perverts who use the library's anti-censorship policy to look up porn and possibly masturbate in public. :barf:

Chumbawumba4ever97
Dec 31, 2000

by Fluffdaddy

Tashan Dorrsett posted:

i worked in a warehouse like this for a little while for a popular video game company with a cell phone game that's really popular right now. they would lay off 50-300 people a week and a lot of those people would kill themselves. they were definitely circling the drain until the cell phone game came out.

What country was this warehouse in? I'm assuming China?

JB50
Feb 13, 2008

Uncle at Nintendo posted:

What country was this warehouse in? I'm assuming China?

I think he worked for Nintendo.

Space Robot
Sep 3, 2011

Trojan.exe posted:

I've heard a few B&N stores are going to open up restaurants inside them, more importantly restaurants that also serve booze, which is honestly a brilliant idea if you want to drive more people there to buy books in store. I have certainly been compelled to buy books on the spot more often thanks to cafes inside of B&N, my wallet will be at the stores mercy if wine or beer is involved.

I use to work at a local bookstore that has a restaurant inside it. It's changed names and hands a few times, but so far has lasted since the late 80's, while multiple bookstores in the area have closed.

Professor Shark
May 22, 2012

PallasAthene posted:

Or because there is a library but it's full of schizophrenic hobos, loud, obnoxious teenagers, and perverts who use the library's anti-censorship policy to look up porn and possibly masturbate in public. :barf:

How many of those notices/ demands for payment from the porn industry do you think libraries get in the run of a week?

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The_Franz
Aug 8, 2003

Darth123123 posted:

Why do you "hang" in a retail establishment for 4 hours?

When printed periodicals were still relevant to people under 60 book stores were a nice place to kill time since you could sit around reading the new magazines without employees hassling you to put it back if you aren't going to buy it.

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