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Ratjaculation
Aug 3, 2007

:parrot::parrot::parrot:



a hole-y ghost posted:

If you look at the time on the pictures ratjaculation posted them in reverse order

OOPS soz

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i like that
May 22, 2016

by FactsAreUseless
Being 'nice' in itself isn't sexually attractive. Men are so dumb lol

RobattoJesus
Aug 13, 2002

Pick posted:

it's a Legitimate Concern among women I know that he's going to whip out the old "what if we--" and it's going to be something he saw in internet porn and it's going to be a bad time. It's going to turn out he saw some sort of enema videos or whatever and you're going to have to sit around making butt stew while folding laundry, and in the meantime he saw that finnish crusher video with the doll or whatever and gently suggests that while you squirt brown water out of your Gulf Coast starfish that you might also do the splits and sing "Barbie Girl" and you're like je-sus christ what a loving hassle

If they do this, just say you've always wanted to see a dude choke himself with a belt in wardrobe to the point of unconsciousness while jerking off and then go home and watch Netflix or something.

ArbitraryC
Jan 28, 2009
Pick a number, any number
Pillbug
Woman pushes around a spineless sexually inxperienced 20 something into a poly relationship they don't want:

"you know guys this really reads like something madeup to get mras really mad"

Dude talks about how women are mentally children and deserve to be treated like cattle:

"this seems like something some really said"

Cnut the Great
Mar 30, 2014

Moon Atari posted:

'nice guys' seem like they are caught in a sad state where they mostly hate themselves and feel like the only way they will be loved is by shaping their entire life and personality to please the woman, but they are also angry at women for 'making them' feel that way about themselves. They are frustrated and flip between blaming themselves and blaming women.

This it exactly. At the same, it's perfectly okay and normal to feel sad and frustrated (for a period of time, at least) about someone you want to gently caress not wanting to gently caress you. Just don't blame the other person for it. Wallow in self-hatred, commit to a regimen of self-improvement, do whatever, I don't care, just don't blame the other person for not being sexually attracted to you.

ClamdestineBoyster
Aug 15, 2015
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!
Not having sex with someone is a form of rape. :colbert:

lorn Wayne
Jan 7, 2006

:staredog::meowth::pipe:
"A friend is nothing but a known enemy."

-Kurt Cobain

RobattoJesus
Aug 13, 2002

i like that posted:

Being 'nice' in itself isn't sexually attractive. Men are so dumb lol

When finding a sex partner the #1 most important question is "how likely is this person to show up at my house 3 days later and start singing through the letterbox"

"Are they nice" is number 764

BIG-DICK-BUTT-FUCK
Jan 26, 2016

by Fluffdaddy

what kind of english person says "fam"

i like that
May 22, 2016

by FactsAreUseless

Tumble posted:

I get kinda sad when people (women as well, but let's face it, there really is a lot more bitter angry guys than bitter angry women) just give in to their negative, angry emotions when it comes to dating. It really fucks people up, and the whole echo chamber aspect of internet subcultures makes it waaaay worse than it needs to be. Most of these people would be much better off with a bit of therapy.

There are more angry guys because ugly chix know their fate is to be spinster cat ladies. Conversely, ugly men are promised something different for some reason. There needs to be a realistic expectation of being a unix beard train guy and maybe this whole anger entitlement thing will quell over

Pick
Jul 19, 2009
Nap Ghost

RobattoJesus posted:

If they do this, just say you've always wanted to see a dude choke himself with a belt in wardrobe to the point of unconsciousness while jerking off and then go home and watch Netflix or something.

my fetish is getting my genitalia stimulated and i'm not even that fussy about how it's done so when this one girl i dated (an Ashley, do not, and i repeat, do NOT date ashleys) wanted to pierce my ears, in bed, in a sexual way, i was like, woah, that's a novel place to get an infection while loving someone. but also please do not do that, that sounds like a Bad Time

Hogge Wild
Aug 21, 2012

by FactsAreUseless
Pillbug

Pick posted:

Yeah pretty much. But to be honest, I think that men have a bigger problem with it than women mostly because male friendships are fairweather as gently caress. Or they're something that's like the opposite of fairweather, maybe I'd call it like pitchfriends where they keep each other bitter and angry and feeling like failures so that their friends don't realize their lives could be better than that, because if their lives improved, they'd LEAVE!!

A good friend wants what's best for you, even if it might be to the detriment of your specific friendship.

Actually, I think a lot of men have in essence abusive relationships with one another (just non-sexually). Like, they're afraid that their friends getting GFs and whatever will rip them away, so they subtly tear down their friends or ruin their self-esteem so that they'll stay.

wat

lorn Wayne
Jan 7, 2006

:staredog::meowth::pipe:

ok but i don't trust your images anymore, and i'll be reading them back to front.

so in this image, some girl calls a guy mental and he sweet-talks his way back into her heart using the memory of a lost love. :3:

Cnut the Great
Mar 30, 2014

Pick posted:

Yeah pretty much. But to be honest, I think that men have a bigger problem with it than women mostly because male friendships are fairweather as gently caress. Or they're something that's like the opposite of fairweather, maybe I'd call it like pitchfriends where they keep each other bitter and angry and feeling like failures so that their friends don't realize their lives could be better than that, because if their lives improved, they'd LEAVE!!

A good friend wants what's best for you, even if it might be to the detriment of your specific friendship.

Actually, I think a lot of men have in essence abusive relationships with one another (just non-sexually). Like, they're afraid that their friends getting GFs and whatever will rip them away, so they subtly tear down their friends or ruin their self-esteem so that they'll stay.

Yeah Pick no. Guy friends rib on each other because that's how we bond. There's absolutely no bitterness or anger involved there unless you have lovely guy friends, which of course some people do, but I wouldn't say most.

RobattoJesus
Aug 13, 2002

Pick posted:

my fetish is getting my genitalia stimulated and i'm not even that fussy about how it's done so when this one girl i dated (an Ashley, do not, and i repeat, do NOT date ashleys) wanted to pierce my ears, in bed, in a sexual way, i was like, woah, that's a novel place to get an infection while loving someone. but also please do not do that, that sounds like a Bad Time

This is a good example of the difference between sexy crazy and crazy crazy. The difference is basically that with sexy crazy they're rubbing your genitals at the same time so you temporarily forget that they're nuts.

Sexual ear piercing is just crazy crazy.

Moon Atari
Dec 26, 2010

I think men have a bigger problem with it because men are more likely to experience complete rejection. As a woman you might be rejected by a man you want, or even have to lower your standards, but with the knowledge that there will always be men out there who want you as you are, even if they are men you don't want. Whereas men can be rejected entirely, such that there is nobody who wants them. Plus it is far less likely for them to have women approach them, so they can experience extended, unbroken periods of feeling unwanted by the opposite sex in a way women are unlikely to.

That turns into resentment when efforts to improve themselves fail to produce results. This isn't helped by the things a man needs to improve to be datable being more all encompassing of who they are as a person (e.g personality, life accomplishments etc) than their appearance, because this means they are being told that they are fundamentally unworthy of love as they are now.

As far as male friendship goes, men do not support each others efforts to get girlfriends because it is considered shameful to need that support.

Cnut the Great
Mar 30, 2014

RobattoJesus posted:

This is a good example of the difference between sexy crazy and crazy crazy. The difference is basically that with sexy crazy they're rubbing your genitals at the same time so you temporarily forget that they're nuts.

Sexual ear piercing is just crazy crazy.

what is sexual ear piercing

is there a strap-on involved

the great deceiver
Sep 23, 2003

why the feds worried bout me clockin on this corner/
when there's politicians out here gettin popped in arizona

Pick posted:

Yeah pretty much. But to be honest, I think that men have a bigger problem with it than women mostly because male friendships are fairweather as gently caress. Or they're something that's like the opposite of fairweather, maybe I'd call it like pitchfriends where they keep each other bitter and angry and feeling like failures so that their friends don't realize their lives could be better than that, because if their lives improved, they'd LEAVE!!

A good friend wants what's best for you, even if it might be to the detriment of your specific friendship.

Actually, I think a lot of men have in essence abusive relationships with one another (just non-sexually). Like, they're afraid that their friends getting GFs and whatever will rip them away, so they subtly tear down their friends or ruin their self-esteem so that they'll stay.

this is not true

the great deceiver
Sep 23, 2003

why the feds worried bout me clockin on this corner/
when there's politicians out here gettin popped in arizona
any guy who did that to his friends, assuming they are normal guys, would be totally ostracized

a hole-y ghost
May 10, 2010

Cnut the Great posted:

Yeah Pick no. Guy friends rib on each other because that's how we bond. There's absolutely no bitterness or anger involved there unless you have lovely guy friends, which of course some people do, but I wouldn't say most.
is that what pick's referring to?? because being a GBS poster it doesn't seem like something she wouldn't get since we always do that

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I don't even understand why the "friend zone" is a bad thing. Why is having friends a negative thing? I like having all my friends here in GBS :)

Pick
Jul 19, 2009
Nap Ghost
Guys sabotage one another all the time, I have been the woman in the relationship they anti-wingman'd.

Lastgirl
Sep 7, 1997


Good Morning!
Sunday Morning!

lorn Wayne posted:

"A friend is nothing but a known enemy."

-Kurt Cobain

deep

the great deceiver
Sep 23, 2003

why the feds worried bout me clockin on this corner/
when there's politicians out here gettin popped in arizona

Pick posted:

Guys sabotage one another all the time, I have been the woman in the relationship they anti-wingman'd.

women do that too. it's a broken person thing not exclusive to either gender

a hole-y ghost
May 10, 2010

Pick posted:

Guys sabotage one another all the time, I have been the woman in the relationship they anti-wingman'd.
That's probably the guy feeling friendzoned by the other guy and trying to mess with him out of jealousy

Fat Shat Sings
Jan 24, 2016

the great deceiver posted:

women do that too. it's a broken person thing not exclusive to either gender

ClamdestineBoyster
Aug 15, 2015
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!

Moon Atari posted:

I think men have a bigger problem with it because men are more likely to experience complete rejection. As a woman you might be rejected by a man you want, or even have to lower your standards, but with the knowledge that there will always be men out there who want you as you are, even if they are men you don't want. Whereas men can be rejected entirely, such that there is nobody who wants them. Plus it is far less likely for them to have women approach them, so they can experience extended, unbroken periods of feeling unwanted by the opposite sex in a way women are unlikely to.

That turns into resentment when efforts to improve themselves fail to produce results. This isn't helped by the things a man needs to improve to be datable being more all encompassing of who they are as a person (e.g personality, life accomplishments etc) than their appearance, because this means they are being told that they are fundamentally unworthy of love as they are now.

As far as male friendship goes, men do not support each others efforts to get girlfriends because it is considered shameful to need that support.

No.

a hole-y ghost
May 10, 2010

Moon Atari posted:

Whereas men can be rejected entirely, such that there is nobody who wants them.
:confused:

MD2020
May 30, 2003

she had tiny Italian boobs.
Well that's my story.

Pick posted:

Yeah pretty much. But to be honest, I think that men have a bigger problem with it than women mostly because male friendships are fairweather as gently caress. Or they're something that's like the opposite of fairweather, maybe I'd call it like pitchfriends where they keep each other bitter and angry and feeling like failures so that their friends don't realize their lives could be better than that, because if their lives improved, they'd LEAVE!!

A good friend wants what's best for you, even if it might be to the detriment of your specific friendship.

Actually, I think a lot of men have in essence abusive relationships with one another (just non-sexually). Like, they're afraid that their friends getting GFs and whatever will rip them away, so they subtly tear down their friends or ruin their self-esteem so that they'll stay.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3hmlPtRu1SQ

Pick
Jul 19, 2009
Nap Ghost

Moon Atari posted:

I think men have a bigger problem with it because men are more likely to experience complete rejection. As a woman you might be rejected by a man you want, or even have to lower your standards, but with the knowledge that there will always be men out there who want you as you are, even if they are men you don't want.

I know many women who have never believed they were desired by literally anyone and would fall head-over-heels for anyone who showed the slightest interest. They are not pretty though.

a hole-y ghost
May 10, 2010

I'm not too clear on this concept of "total rejection" but I think it might be death??

Blue Train
Jun 17, 2012

a hole-y ghost posted:

I'm not too clear on this concept of "total rejection" but I think it might be death??

its when you're so lonely and pathetic that it radiates off of you, driving others away as they can sense it

a dog from hell
Oct 18, 2009

by zen death robot

Whatev posted:

I think it's much more than they are dickless little babies who are terrified or rejection

Is it?! Why do you have to make everything so complicated?

a dog from hell
Oct 18, 2009

by zen death robot

a hole-y ghost posted:

I'm not too clear on this concept of "total rejection" but I think it might be death??

Total rejection of contiguous motion.

Ceciltron
Jan 11, 2007

Text BEEP to 43527 for the dancing robot!
Pillbug
A long time ago I had a girl on okc once pull the nice guy rant on me because i said I was broke and couldn't afford to buy drinks. Like the whole "you don't deserve me, you're cheap/trying to take advantage of me/i thought you were handsome but now you're ugly". She was like 5 years older than me. loving weird.

Pick
Jul 19, 2009
Nap Ghost
Generally I think the world is too hard on "nice guys", like you're right, you don't deserve sex because you're "nice", but the correct response isn't "so gently caress off and die" it's, "you probably need therapy and to learn to respect yourself as you are."

Cnut the Great
Mar 30, 2014

Pick posted:

I know many women who have never believed they were desired by literally anyone and would fall head-over-heels for anyone who showed the slightest interest. They are not pretty though.

Of course there are many women suffering from the same problem, but I think it is a problem that is certainly much more familiar to men than it is to women. That doesn't mean women don't have their own equally valid problems mostly specific to their own gender. This isn't some contest to see who has it the worst.


oldpainless posted:

I don't even understand why the "friend zone" is a bad thing. Why is having friends a negative thing? I like having all my friends here in GBS :)

Having friends is good. Being romantically attracted to someone and having them not reciprocate, and being sad and frustrated about that, is a normal thing which literally everyone has experienced in some way at some point in their lives (and if they say they haven't they're either a completely asexual shut-in or a liar). Blaming the person for not reciprocating your feelings and lashing out at them is not good and it is not okay. If you feel you are unable to be friends with someone because of your strong romantic feelings towards them, that is also normal and okay, and does not make you a sexually-entitled MRA monster, as long as you accept that the problem is solely on your end and continue to treat them with respect whenever you encounter them.

a dog from hell
Oct 18, 2009

by zen death robot
Guys just need to stop being ugly or to grow some balls. Then they need to go through the enormous learning curve of learning how to deal with women. Ugly guys could just get rich or famous. There is no reason to pity men.

Murray Mantoinette
Jun 11, 2005

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Clapping Larry
Have you guys ever considered that maybe we should all just be forced into government gently caress Camps a couple times a year so we don't have to worry about this stuff like dating and the possibility of rejection and we can just get it out of our systems and go back to playing video games or whatever?

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Comfy Fleece Sweater
Apr 2, 2013

You see, but you do not observe.

lorn Wayne posted:

"A friend is nothing but a known enemy."

-Kurt Cobain

Haha, what an idiot

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