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Woolwich Bagnet
Apr 27, 2003



There hasn't been a single game that comes close to the open development of Star Citizen.

As long as the criteria is that it's a PC game. Set in space. Named Star Citizen.

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CHICKEN SHOES
Oct 4, 2002
Slippery Tilde
All games take about 30 minutes to even get to the part where you can download it


peter gabriel posted:

I want you to remember all the times people have said the game has no issues on every step of your journey


i can't believe the fidelity! :wth:

peter gabriel
Nov 8, 2011

Hello Commandos

Hillary Clintons Thong posted:

All games take about 30 minutes to even get to the part where you can download it



i can't believe the fidelity! :wth:

Yesss, yesssss, come and be like me in the 'Univerese!

CHICKEN SHOES
Oct 4, 2002
Slippery Tilde

peter gabriel posted:

Yesss, yesssss, come and be like me in the 'Univerese!

in another 3 hours commando, to finish this download anyhow. Not sure what happens next, it's all so exciting!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Free fly ends tomorrow apparently so I don't know how much I'll get to enjoy. If it was possible to even be in the same game I'd like to be your ingame commando friend

Fat Shat Sings
Jan 24, 2016

Not gonna lie, but the way your website does comments when I read "80 Thoughts on Star Citizen - The Refund Debacle" I thought that was just the name of your newest blog.

intardnation
Feb 18, 2016

I'm going to space!

:gary: :yarg:

thatguy posted:

An amazing sales pitch.


if this fucktard is involved you are sure the game will fail. Hell he kept saying wildstar was never in trouble and would never go f2p up till the moment they announced it.

HycoCam
Jul 14, 2016

You should have backed Transverse!

Lazrin posted:

you could also man up and honor your promise to contribute to the effort to make a video game.

lol, what streetroller did 'worked' because he didn't agree to any tos by virtue of never having installed the software. he was entitled to one. it will not work like that for everyone.

in other words, it doesn't work. nor does derek's 'advice'. they are not obligated to refund anything, but can do so discretionally.
Any thoughts on CIG and Chris Roberts manning up and honoring their promises?

You know promises like CIG would release SQ42 by the end of 2014? That milestone was to be important for a few reasons: 1) It would validate CIG as a game developer 2) Allow CIG to function as a normal company, using the sales from their highly successful game to support development instead of crowdfunding.

I know , I know--more money lead to scope creep because backers wanted it... Except. Hold on a second. How did scope creep affect Squadron 42? Squadron 42 has had nothing added, just promises from Kickstarter removed. So who hasn't manned up?

Either your buddies at CIG have a a finished build for Sq42 just sitting there and have decided not to release because whyu bother when you are getting $3million a month for nothing. Or the project lacks competence, direction, and any ability to produce a working game. For example--the monthly content patch model CIG announced in February. Five months--two patches.

Last but not least. Never seen the Red Cross collect VAT on a donation. CIG is selling pre-orders. Doesn't matter what CIG likes to pretend it is. When a company fails to deliver the product they said they would--the normal reaction from normal people is: "Give me back my money."

It is not too late for you. Go get your money back.

Pilz
Jul 25, 2016
Grimey Drawer
Well, the paywall's up and I've finally decided to stop freeloading. Also, Shitizens keep shilling on r/pcmasterrace and I figured I'd let :pgabz: know his videos are very helpful in combating that particular annoyance. Finally, I don't know if any of you are aware of the site Popehat, but this excerpt from a series about tracking down a scammer seemed relevant:

"I have prosecuted, and defended, and sued or represented civilly, drug dealers and bank robbers and child molesters and child porn possessors and extremists and members of a designated terrorist organization. In my experience, nobody is as chilling as a career con man. The level of sociopathy — the extent to which everyone is merely an object to be manipulated — is difficult to grasp. So is the sheer relentlessness and remorselessness of the conduct. Imagine if the terminator was programmed to defraud you rather than kill you. There's no stopping or curing or rehabilitating such people — there's only notifying law enforcement, helping past victims, and trying to warn future victims."

from https://popehat.com/2011/10/04/anatomy-of-a-scam-investigation-chapter-eight/

Danknificent
Nov 20, 2015

Jinkies! Looks like we've got a mystery on our hands.

peter gabriel posted:

I've been trolling Agent Mothman for a while now by asking two word questions so he writes a 5000 word answer, which I never read but reply with something like 'Tell me more'

In this way, I am satisfied.

This is what we should all be doing tbh

Mirificus
Oct 29, 2004

Kings need not raise their voices to be heard

Tippis posted:

Wasn't there a presentation posted in this thread about how you could (weakly) predict the outcome of a game launch by what kind of audience and community it attracted?

This seems like a good time to bring that up again…

Harbingers of Failure posted:

The authors identify customers, termed “Harbingers of failure,” who systematically purchase new products that flop. Their early adoption of a new product is a strong signal that a product will fail—the more they buy, the less likely the product will succeed. Firms can identify these customers through past purchases of either new products that failed or existing products that few other customers purchase. The authors discuss how these insights can be readily incorporated into the new product development process. The findings challenge the conventional wisdom that positive customer feedback is always a signal of future success.
doi: http://dx.doi.org/10.1509/jmr.13.0415

Ars Technica Write-up posted:

A central premise in marketing seems so obvious that it doesn’t even bear scrutiny: if customers give you positive feedback on your product, that’s good. And if those people buy the product repeatedly, that's even better.

But what if certain customers just don’t have great taste? Or, more precisely, what if their tastes don’t match up with those of the rest of the population? Positive feedback and early sales from these customers might actually not be good news—they could be a sign that the product’s going to tank.

A recent paper in the Journal of Marketing Research has identified a group of customers whose support for a product is a “harbinger of failure,” a signal that the product will eventually flop. “Increased sales of a new product by some customers can actually be a strong signal of future failure,” researchers write. So who are these people?
http://arstechnica.com/science/2015/12/certain-customers-spell-doom-for-new-products/

peter gabriel
Nov 8, 2011

Hello Commandos

Hillary Clintons Thong posted:

in another 3 hours commando, to finish this download anyhow. Not sure what happens next, it's all so exciting!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Free fly ends tomorrow apparently so I don't know how much I'll get to enjoy. If it was possible to even be in the same game I'd like to be your ingame commando friend

Well if time is short I'd recommend not messing with stuff like the clothes shop as it is pointless and time consuming, just get right out there into the inky abyss and start stealing chariots

SurfaceDetail
Feb 17, 2016

by Cowcaster

Danknificent posted:

This is what we should all be doing tbh

I've got him to use the word 'troll' 5 times in one post.

peter gabriel
Nov 8, 2011

Hello Commandos

SurfaceDetail posted:

I've got him to use the word 'troll' 5 times in one post.

It's great fun, I'm pretty sure he is upvoting me as well, my karma is going up up up

his nibs
Feb 27, 2016

:kayak:Welcome to the:kayak:
Dream Factory
:kayak:
Grimey Drawer

Pilz posted:

Well, the paywall's up and I've finally decided to stop freeloading. Also, Shitizens keep shilling on r/pcmasterrace and I figured I'd let :pgabz: know his videos are very helpful in combating that particular annoyance. Finally, I don't know if any of you are aware of the site Popehat, but this excerpt from a series about tracking down a scammer seemed relevant:

"I have prosecuted, and defended, and sued or represented civilly, drug dealers and bank robbers and child molesters and child porn possessors and extremists and members of a designated terrorist organization. In my experience, nobody is as chilling as a career con man. The level of sociopathy — the extent to which everyone is merely an object to be manipulated — is difficult to grasp. So is the sheer relentlessness and remorselessness of the conduct. Imagine if the terminator was programmed to defraud you rather than kill you. There's no stopping or curing or rehabilitating such people — there's only notifying law enforcement, helping past victims, and trying to warn future victims."

from https://popehat.com/2011/10/04/anatomy-of-a-scam-investigation-chapter-eight/

Welcome. Do you like cats?

I Greyhound
Apr 22, 2008

MusicKrew Dawn Patrol
I have no context for this, but it's on r/starcitizen.

https://gifsound.com/?gif=i.imgur.com/A9t6uYe.gif&v=GuJQSAiODqI&s=99

I Greyhound
Apr 22, 2008

MusicKrew Dawn Patrol
Apparently a fan thing with a model that was included a few patches ago and never used.



Pilz
Jul 25, 2016
Grimey Drawer

his nibs posted:

Welcome. Do you like cats?

I do. Unfortunately, I suffer from allergies so horrific I can only view them through the screen of my computer lest my lungs collapse and my eyes swell shut.

Tortolia
Dec 29, 2005

Hindustan Electronics Employee of the Month, July 2008
Grimey Drawer

Hillary Clintons Thong posted:

All games take about 30 minutes to even get to the part where you can download it



i can't believe the fidelity! :wth:

This sounds even more convoluted and less functional than setting up an account for FFXIV, and that tends to have folks come into that thread every other week asking for help in getting everything set up.

Tippis
Mar 21, 2008

It's yet another day in the wasteland.


Yay. Thank you. I'll remember to bookmark it this time. :woop:

SurfaceDetail
Feb 17, 2016

by Cowcaster

peter gabriel posted:

It's great fun, I'm pretty sure he is upvoting me as well, my karma is going up up up

Anytime I see him harassing random people (usually innocent) for trolling (its like 4/5 of what he posts). I report him as some weirdo stalker contributing nothing

his nibs
Feb 27, 2016

:kayak:Welcome to the:kayak:
Dream Factory
:kayak:
Grimey Drawer

Pilz posted:

I do. Unfortunately, I suffer from allergies so horrific I can only view them through the screen of my computer lest my lungs collapse and my eyes swell shut.

I'm sorry to hear that :smith:

pls post cats

Pilz
Jul 25, 2016
Grimey Drawer



Cat?

tooterfish
Jul 13, 2013

That's a pretty good catte.

I've noticed lots of people haven't been paying their tax lately, this thread's taking a leaf out of CR's book and I don't like it. :colbert:

ManofManyAliases
Mar 21, 2016
ToastOfManySmarts


Can't post for 3 hours!

Jobbo_Fett posted:

Why did momA and Lazrin stop replying when I asked them about their apparent insider knowledge of government- and/or consumer-based agencies and how they investigate people and/or companies for criminal activity?

I didn't. I just cannot speak of it. Anyway, hope you're all doing well.

Foo Diddley
Oct 29, 2011

cat

tooterfish posted:

That's a pretty good catte.

I've noticed lots of people haven't been paying their tax lately, this thread's taking a leaf out of CR's book and I don't like it. :colbert:

I told a german magazine all about the cats I'm going to post

big nipples big life
May 12, 2014

ManofManyAliases posted:

I didn't. I just cannot speak of it. Anyway, hope you're all doing well.

Anybody catching up on the thread later can now safely skip the next 3 pages.

Tokyo Sexwale
Jul 30, 2003

Wafflz posted:

Anybody catching up on the thread later can now safely skip the next 3 pages.

Chalks
Sep 30, 2009

Wafflz posted:

Anybody catching up on the thread later can now safely skip the next 3 pages.

Anyone catching up on the thread can safely click "last page", trust me.

Crazy_BlackParrot
Feb 1, 2016

Christ Roberts is way better than toilet lord...
:gary: :lesnick: :yarg:
:pgabz: :fuzzknot: :eonwe:
:wtchris:

I Greyhound posted:

Apparently a fan thing with a model that was included a few patches ago and never used.





This actually looks pretty decent and fluid.
But i'm no game specialist.

Blue On Blue
Nov 14, 2012

Crazy_BlackParrot posted:

This actually looks pretty decent and fluid.
But i'm no game specialist.

Wait until there are headless commandos and jittering t-posed space people in the background

ZenMaster
Jan 24, 2006

I Saved PC Gaming

Nation posted:

Chris Roberts mushroom farmer

http://i.imgur.com/7X2hSdn.mp4

Lladre
Jun 28, 2011


Soiled Meat

The morel of the story is: Don't buy anything before it's actually made.

Crazy_BlackParrot
Feb 1, 2016

Christ Roberts is way better than toilet lord...
:gary: :lesnick: :yarg:
:pgabz: :fuzzknot: :eonwe:
:wtchris:

Didn't know 10ftc got canned?

Lime Tonics
Nov 7, 2015

by FactsAreUseless

Crazy_BlackParrot posted:

Didn't know 10ftc got canned?

Every week the comm-link schedule takes longer to be typed out. Who knows when it will eventually stop. 2 weeks?

Crazy_BlackParrot
Feb 1, 2016

Christ Roberts is way better than toilet lord...
:gary: :lesnick: :yarg:
:pgabz: :fuzzknot: :eonwe:
:wtchris:

Lime Tonics posted:

Every week the comm-link schedule takes longer to be typed out. Who knows when it will eventually stop. 2 weeks?

I noticed this as well.
Also, how to explain to subscribers that they pay 10 bucks a month only to find out the real " juicy " news in a german mag.... GERMAN...

German baloney.

Crazy_BlackParrot fucked around with this message at 20:07 on Jul 25, 2016

AlbieQuirky
Oct 9, 2012

Just me and my 🌊dragon🐉 hanging out

ManofManyAliases posted:

I didn't. I just cannot speak of it. Anyway, hope you're all doing well.

Pick a lane, commando. Either you are not affiliated in any way with CIG, RSI, any of its subsidiaries or contractors or vendors, etc., or you have vast insider knowledge that you are forbidden to reveal because of NDAs or other legally binding commitments.

There is no way both of those things can be true, so pick one. They're pretty much equally boring, but not as boring as the yo-yoing.

EightAce
May 10, 2015

Watch it all come crashing down on his head and wonder why any of us gave him money in the first place.

Lazrin posted:

you could also man up and honor your promise to contribute .

Hey Lazrin
You claim you came on here for reasonable discourse. If that's what you want then fire away .
From what I have read of your posting you are not on here to engage or cause offense. You seem to want to defend star citizen. I can tell you some things for absolute 100% certain.
1) sq42 will not be out in 2016
2) They have built a set for Mark hamill and a Derek called it before it was public knowledge.
3) Derek indicated that John Dadley was leaving CIG despite no online evidence. A fact that Mr Dadly himself inadvertently corroborated.
4) a lot of info is confirmed and discussed on TCE among high level pro game devs including guys from CIG. You will never ever gain access to this forum but a lot is discussed there and there is no one with any dev experience at all that can see this game coming out as promised.
5) the AI and the netcode are broken currently. As in completely.
6) yes they do have some nice procedural planets stuff. This is not what was published in the German magazine however. Those images are from modelled test world's.
7) internally people are extremely worried about sq42 for multiple reasons. There is not a working vertical slice yet.
8) The hours of mocap data that have been shot don't work in game yet. Not one minute. The script is truly terrible. Even die hard cultists will cringe whilst watching this stuff through their fingers.
9) lots more but you probably don't believe any of what I have highlighted above and most likely think I'm a bitter ex qa monkey or just a straight out bullshitter.
Should you wish to learn more discourse is always better than slanging matches or abuse.

Somebody fucked around with this message at 03:40 on Jul 26, 2016

JainDoh
Nov 5, 2002

Omar strollin'

ManofManyAliases posted:

I didn't. I just cannot speak of it. Anyway, hope you're all doing well.


*But I can't talk about it

Lladre
Jun 28, 2011


Soiled Meat

Jon Do posted:


*But I can't talk about it

Fake. That is a not an approved Seal Team Six glove.

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Fat Shat Sings
Jan 24, 2016

EightAce posted:


Hey Lazrin
You claim you came on here for reasonable discourse. If that's what you want then fire away .
From what I have read of your posting you are not on here to engage or cause offense. You seem to want to defend star citizen. I can tell you some things for absolute 100% certain.
1) sq42 will not be out in 2016
2) They have built a set for Mark hamill and a Derek called it before it was public knowledge.
3) Derek indicated that John Dadley was leaving CIG despite no online evidence. A fact that Mr Dadly himself inadvertently corroborated.
4) a lot of info is confirmed and discussed on TCE among high level pro game devs including guys from CIG. You will never ever gain access to this forum but a lot is discussed there and there is no one with any dev experience at all that can see this game coming out as promised.
5) the AI and the netcode are broken currently. As in completely.
6) yes they do have some nice procedural planets stuff. This is not what was published in the German magazine however. Those images are from modelled test world's.
7) internally people are extremely worried about sq42 for multiple reasons. There is not a working vertical slice yet.
8) The hours of mocap data that have been shot don't work in game yet. Not one minute. The script is truly terrible. Even die hard cultists will cringe whilst watching this stuff through their fingers.
9) lots more but you probably don't believe any of what I have highlighted above and most likely think I'm a bitter ex qa monkey or just a straight out bullshitter.
Should you wish to learn more discourse is always better than slanging matches or abuse.

excuse you but I saw reddit. Squadron 42, Star Marine, Procedural Planets, Multiple Systems, The World's first true artificial intelligence all this year.


Check mate, goonailure.

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