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How many quarters after Q1 2016 till Marissa Mayer is unemployed?
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Automatic Slim
Jul 1, 2007

Arsenic Lupin posted:

Nope, Yahoo's Q2 ended June 30th. We are now in Q3.

Marissa Mayer puts on her happy face.

Vague word salad HR talk like that is the death of any authenticity.

That collection of words tried so hard to polish a turd that was the death knell of Yahoo.

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Arsenic Lupin
Apr 12, 2012

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Automatic Slim posted:

Vague word salad HR talk like that is the death of any authenticity.

That collection of words tried so hard to polish a turd that was the death knell of Yahoo.
"And let's not forget the large amount of money I spent to no visible effect! Yay me!"

In my experience, be very very wary of any company that is "rebranding" or redesigning their logo, especially if this happens multiple times. The classic rule was to beware of any high-tech company that built a signature headquarters from a fancy architect. Yes, I know those rules would flag Google as a problem, but it's a rule of thumb, not an axiom.

ToxicSlurpee
Nov 5, 2003

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Pillbug

Arsenic Lupin posted:

"And let's not forget the large amount of money I spent to no visible effect! Yay me!"

In my experience, be very very wary of any company that is "rebranding" or redesigning their logo, especially if this happens multiple times. The classic rule was to beware of any high-tech company that built a signature headquarters from a fancy architect. Yes, I know those rules would flag Google as a problem, but it's a rule of thumb, not an axiom.

The kicker isn't a company doing that. It's when the company does it. Google started in 1998. The Googleplex was built in 2004 well after Google became synonymous with internet searches. This was after the company was careening off into the financial stratosphere. Even then it wasn't "built" so much as bought and remodeled.

Companies that do those things before they get enormous are cargo culting Google's success, which is the big problem. I'm repeating myself but everybody is trying to build Google in a year. Google is a 17 year old company. You get the enormous, fancy complex after your company is insanely valuable.

ToxicSlurpee fucked around with this message at 05:44 on Jul 26, 2016

Kim Jong Il
Aug 16, 2003

MiddleOne posted:

What in gods name makes Verizon believe that they have the expertise to turn around, everything not named Alibaba, that they're getting into? :psyduck:

There were hedge funds that wanted to merge Yahoo and AOL, firing everyone and selling it off in pieces. They're likely to do that So even if it was 9 billion total, they'll cut costs to the bone and sell some real estate, patents, and other assets.

AOL is surprisingly well run for what it is now.

Koirhor
Jan 14, 2008

by Fluffdaddy
Verizon is the utter shitheel of all American Telcos, continuing to sell off more and more territory to idiots who can't maintain it.

Huzanko
Aug 4, 2015

by FactsAreUseless

ToxicSlurpee posted:

The kicker isn't a company doing that. It's when the company does it. Google started in 1998. The Googleplex was built in 2004 well after Google became synonymous with internet searches. This was after the company was careening off into the financial stratosphere. Even then it wasn't "built" so much as bought and remodeled.

Companies that do those things before they get enormous are cargo culting Google's success, which is the big problem. I'm repeating myself but everybody is trying to build Google in a year. Google is a 28 year old company. You get the enormous, fancy complex after your company is insanely valuable.

Google is a 17 year old company.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google

ToxicSlurpee
Nov 5, 2003

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Pillbug
Math is hard. Apparently so is typing.

Arsenic Lupin
Apr 12, 2012

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ToxicSlurpee posted:

The kicker isn't a company doing that. It's when the company does it. Google started in 1998. The Googleplex was built in 2004 well after Google became synonymous with internet searches. This was after the company was careening off into the financial stratosphere. Even then it wasn't "built" so much as bought and remodeled.
Uh, no, the Googleplex was bought from Silicon Graphics, for whom it *was* the shiny trademark headquarters. The shiny trademark building I was referring to was the one that Mountain View just refused to let them build.

Twerkteam Pizza
Sep 26, 2015

Grimey Drawer

Arsenic Lupin posted:

This bra raised $1.1 million and shipped all its product. I got one, and it rocks. The company had launched a couple of years ago with the funds from a $60K Indiegogo campaign.

Serious question would I be man of the year if I got that bra for my fiancee?

Arsenic Lupin
Apr 12, 2012

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It depends. Has she ever complained to you about either her bra or sports bra being uncomfortable? Is one of the first things she does when she's getting comfortable to take off her bra? Then absolutely.

If she's small-figured she probably doesn't care. If she wears bras with underwires, she definitely cares.

Twerkteam Pizza
Sep 26, 2015

Grimey Drawer

Arsenic Lupin posted:

It depends. Has she ever complained to you about either her bra or sports bra being uncomfortable? Is one of the first things she does when she's getting comfortable to take off her bra? Then absolutely.

If she's small-figured she probably doesn't care. If she wears bras with underwires, she definitely cares.

Q1: Yes
Q2: Literally the minute we finish working for the day
Wears under wires, D cup, I think 34 around?

Huzanko
Aug 4, 2015

by FactsAreUseless

ToxicSlurpee posted:

Math is hard. Apparently so is typing.

No worries. I had to look it up because I had an "oh poo poo" moment.

Huzanko
Aug 4, 2015

by FactsAreUseless

Twerkteam Pizza posted:

Serious question would I be man of the year if I got that bra for my fiancee?

I shared the link w/ my wife and she shared it w/ a friend and they're both hyped about it. So, probably.

super sweet best pal
Nov 18, 2009

Arsenic Lupin posted:

Young people! :toot:

It was the classic "buy the eyeballs, monetize later" strategy.

Too bad they completely failed to monetize or even integrate it with the rest of their site to boost their user metrics.

Arsenic Lupin
Apr 12, 2012

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Twerkteam Pizza posted:

Q1: Yes
Q2: Literally the minute we finish working for the day
Wears under wires, D cup, I think 34 around?
Buy it. She will love you forever. Sizing may be a trick without getting her cooperation for measurements; I forget.

e: Oh, and followup on the other part of my post. At SDCC, MST3K announced that the new series would be broadcast on Netflix. Keep circulating those tapes!

Lady Naga
Apr 25, 2008

Voyons Donc!
They're trying so hard to draw blood from a stone.

Twerkteam Pizza
Sep 26, 2015

Grimey Drawer

I really don't want my tumblr porn to be muddled with ads

Arsenic Lupin
Apr 12, 2012

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I am happy to see that they are still, after years of complaints, using strobing backgrounds and images on official pages. This one matters to me, because it's a migraine trigger. The last time I wrote pointing out that their failed-login page's moving backgrounds were bad for epileptics, migraineurs, and other strobe-sensitive people, they suggested I install Tumblr Savior.

I might not actually be happy about this.

Liquid Communism
Mar 9, 2004

коммунизм хранится в яичках

So do the masterminds who come up with this poo poo just never use the Internet for anything or interact with the average user? Is that how they think that more ads in what people come to for a content stream are going to be accepted in a positive manner?

MiddleOne
Feb 17, 2011

Liquid Communism posted:

So do the masterminds who come up with this poo poo just never use the Internet for anything or interact with the average user? Is that how they think that more ads in what people come to for a content stream are going to be accepted in a positive manner?

You say that but then we have video ads being a massive financial success so far for both Facebook and Youtube.

Not that it'll save Tumblr.

Lady Naga
Apr 25, 2008

Voyons Donc!

Liquid Communism posted:

So do the masterminds who come up with this poo poo just never use the Internet for anything or interact with the average user? Is that how they think that more ads in what people come to for a content stream are going to be accepted in a positive manner?

They're going the YouTube route by setting up a ponzi zcheme where users will try to enable adrev, get maybe 5% of the revenue, and consequently pressure all their friends and followers to disable adblock so they can be financially supported. People will see how much the top 1% of bloggers are making, say "me too", and the wheel keeps spinning.

Ccs
Feb 25, 2011


So after everyone realized Nintendo doesn't actually make Pokemon GO and sold the stock they just bought, they realized who actually made it. So now Niantic is a unicorn.

http://qz.com/741117/the-company-that-created-pokemon-go-is-now-worth-over-3-billion/

Though since Niantic actually makes 1 million a day off the game, I guess they are unlike most unicorns in that they actually have significant revenue.

Unfortunately my phone's data plan is too slow to play Pokemon Go. It'll be interesting to see if people will still be playing it in a year or if it will be a brief fad for 3-6 months before most people stop playing.

Lady Naga
Apr 25, 2008

Voyons Donc!

Ccs posted:

So after everyone realized Nintendo doesn't actually make Pokemon GO and sold the stock they just bought, they realized who actually made it. So now Niantic is a unicorn.

http://qz.com/741117/the-company-that-created-pokemon-go-is-now-worth-over-3-billion/

Though since Niantic actually makes 1 million a day off the game, I guess they are unlike most unicorns in that they actually have significant revenue.

Unfortunately my phone's data plan is too slow to play Pokemon Go. It'll be interesting to see if people will still be playing it in a year or if it will be a brief fad for 3-6 months before most people stop playing.

Depends on what their update roadmap is, I think. They're probably going to wait until the numbers die out more and then release legendaries for a huge spike in use.

mobby_6kl
Aug 9, 2009

by Fluffdaddy
Crossposting this from KS thread:

mobby_6kl posted:

Skully is dead! After collecting a cool $2.5m on igg and apparently failing to deliver anything, they're closing shop ASAP. It actually seemed like a pretty reasonable product, by igg standards, but was probably mismanaged horribly. Still it's weird that none of the established helmet manufacturers wanted to pick them up for cheap, it seems inevitable that AR/HUD helmets would be a thing eventually. Maybe their tech was poo poo/non-existing, who knows.


https://news.slashdot.org/story/16/07/26/2123201/ar-helmet-startup-skully-has-crashed-and-burned

Here's their site which is still up as of right now: https://www.skully.com/store

Baby Babbeh
Aug 2, 2005

It's hard to soar with the eagles when you work with Turkeys!!



I'm wondering how much sustain Pokemon Go has, honestly. It's a huge deal right now and it's really cool in many ways, but there's not really enough game there to sustain the hardcore fans and the casual fans playing from a mix of nostalgia and novelty likely aren't going to be heavy users 6 months from now. There's an obvious feature roadmap that could keep people around and obvious low hanging fruit from a monetization standpoint. But those require community nurturing and sales respectively, two things that aren't really in Google's DNA and thus not in Niantic's DNA.

I still think Pokemon Go is a big success, but I worry that the markets are getting a little tulip crazy when they put Niantic at a $3 billion valuation.

Arsenic Lupin
Apr 12, 2012

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Lady Naga posted:

They're going the YouTube route by setting up a ponzi zcheme where users will try to enable adrev, get maybe 5% of the revenue, and consequently pressure all their friends and followers to disable adblock so they can be financially supported. People will see how much the top 1% of bloggers are making, say "me too", and the wheel keeps spinning.
What a pity that they threw out all their top-click users awhile ago for trying to monetize on their own. (With clickfarm stuff. I'm not defending their ads, but the point is, that was the moment to say "Wow, these people want to monetize, maybe we can do something together.") I can't find a link; does anybody remember it clearly enough to Google?

I would blow Dane Cook
Dec 26, 2008
Why yes Mr Tumblr ad-man, I would love to advertise my wares next to your gay furry fetish scat porn and digimon otherkin microblogs.

Kim Jong Il
Aug 16, 2003
https://newrepublic.com/article/129002/secret-lives-tumblr-teens

Paradoxish
Dec 19, 2003

Will you stop going crazy in there?

Baby Babbeh posted:

I still think Pokemon Go is a big success, but I worry that the markets are getting a little tulip crazy when they put Niantic at a $3 billion valuation.

I doubt it's representative or anything, but it feels like it's died down quite a bit already in my general area. Probably about half of the people I know who were seriously playing have stopped, either because they got sick of the grind or just got bored. I don't see the crowds that I was seeing practically every night either, but then again there was a minor kerfuffle from a bunch of local business owners here about crowds of people blocking up foot traffic and making it difficult for actual customers to come and go.

Ccs
Feb 25, 2011



The human stories in this are interesting but the infuriating bit is that Google AdSense and Tumblr can close accounts for no reason, and those people have no recourse, even if those accounts are their primary revenue source. You would think that companies that understand this would be less blase about closing hugely popular user accounts. At least give a warning or negotiation, don't just kick out the people who are making massive amounts of money.

Lady Naga
Apr 25, 2008

Voyons Donc!

Ccs posted:

The human stories in this are interesting but the infuriating bit is that Google AdSense and Tumblr can close accounts for no reason, and those people have no recourse, even if those accounts are their primary revenue source. You would think that companies that understand this would be less blase about closing hugely popular user accounts. At least give a warning or negotiation, don't just kick out the people who are making massive amounts of money.

Obligatory.

Arsenic Lupin
Apr 12, 2012

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Ccs posted:

The human stories in this are interesting but the infuriating bit is that Google AdSense and Tumblr can close accounts for no reason, and those people have no recourse, even if those accounts are their primary revenue source. You would think that companies that understand this would be less blase about closing hugely popular user accounts. At least give a warning or negotiation, don't just kick out the people who are making massive amounts of money.

Many small business owners have been mightily shafted by Paypal shutting down their accounts -- keeping the money, of course -- without warning or explanation. They can do this because they aren't a bank. Disruption!

MiddleOne
Feb 17, 2011

Jumpingmanjim posted:

Why yes Mr Tumblr ad-man, I would love to advertise my wares next to your gay furry fetish scat porn and digimon otherkin microblogs.

That's actually a high-spending speciality market which actually makes it worth more in terms of dollars per 1000 views. :ssh:

The internet ad market is loving weird.

NLJP
Aug 26, 2004


Arsenic Lupin posted:

Many small business owners have been mightily shafted by Paypal shutting down their accounts -- keeping the money, of course -- without warning or explanation. They can do this because they aren't a bank. Disruption!

Hell, this very website had thousands of dollars that was meant to be disbursed to the Red Cross during the indian ocean tsunami held up by paypal. I forget how that was all resolved in the end but it was a huge shitshow.

Also thanks for that article about tumblr teens. Very interesting.

bawk
Mar 31, 2013

Tumblr already has sponsored posts and ads and all that jazz, it is shouted down by the vocal users, ignored with adblock by others who either don't care about ads or listened to the vocal users, and presumably viewed by the majority

Does anybody have statistics about the breakdown of tumblr's users and what they do with their blogs, or is the "fanfic/fanart/furry fetish scat porn" just a stupid blanket thrown over all of tumblr despite being a microcosm of the internet where you can get an extra hour in the unofficial dashcon ballpit

Lucy Heartfilia
May 31, 2012


Make Pokemon Go, but with dating instead of catching virtual creatures. This will be big.

Baby Babbeh
Aug 2, 2005

It's hard to soar with the eagles when you work with Turkeys!!



Arsenic Lupin posted:

Many small business owners have been mightily shafted by Paypal shutting down their accounts -- keeping the money, of course -- without warning or explanation. They can do this because they aren't a bank. Disruption!

I work in payments (not at paypal) so I can tell you that they probably don't end up keeping the money — it gets refunded to the payer or the payer's bank if the manual review turns up fraud, or passed through to the business if there isn't fraud a few weeks or months later.

It's still lovely, and PayPal is in this mess because their fraud monitoring tech is balls at the thing they're ostensibly supposed to specialize in (underwriting small and micro merchants), so they flag a lot of accounts by mistake and don't have much recourse except to freeze funds while they try to find out what the gently caress happened. The alternative is to let a ton of fraud through and then eat the losses when the chargebacks start to roll in, or just send the money along to that guy in Iran and then pay the $7.7 million fine.

The moral of this story is don't start a payments company. It's a demanding industry and the rewards really aren't all that great compared to making a hookup app or something.

neonnoodle
Mar 20, 2008

by exmarx

Baby Babbeh posted:

The moral of this story is don't start a payments company. It's a demanding industry and the rewards really aren't all that great compared to making a hookup app or something.
Yeah. If your business involves "disrupting" ANYTHING related to moving money in any way, then one of two things is the case:

- the financial industry, being slow and having to comply with federal regulations, hasn't gotten around to occupying your business model.
- there are not yet financial regulations that cover what you're doing.

In either case, the second that the banking industry gets their poo poo together, they're going to crush you either by acquiring you outright, entering your business as a competitor (which they will probably kill you at because they have extremely robust infrastructure for fraud prevention and transaction speed etc.), or the industry will appeal to the Feds for increased regulatory oversight over your business, which will leave them in a strategically favorable position because they have armies of lawyers and ex-finreg employees working on compliance.

As we speak, the financial industry is trying to figure out how to take ownership over personal online payment transfers. They're taking the non-crazy elements of blockchain technologies.

PayPal is not going to win this war.

ShadowHawk
Jun 25, 2000

CERTIFIED PRE OWNED TESLA OWNER

neonnoodle posted:

In either case, the second that the banking industry gets their poo poo together, they're going to crush you either by acquiring you outright
This is the explicit goal of most venture startups though -- to have an "exit"

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Baby Babbeh
Aug 2, 2005

It's hard to soar with the eagles when you work with Turkeys!!



For the most part the banks buy innovation or they partner on highly unequal terms rather than compete directly. It plays to their strengths — they move at a pace that makes continental drift seem speedy, but they have a fuckton of cash since they essentially collect rent on any and all business activity within their sphere. What normally happens when a new financial tech category opens up is the banks wait 5 to 10 years for the market to coalesce around a winner, then they just buy the winner and everybody else who's doing whatever it is can get hosed.

Or, if it's not a big enough market to bother with, they ignore it. They can do this because they are probably already providing the bare metal infrastructure for whatever the gently caress it is under some sort of acquiring agreement that lets them collect part of the profit while taking none of the risk. This is the relationship between PayPal and Wells Fargo, incidentally.

Again, payments is a lovely industry to start a company in.

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