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OctoberBlues posted:Mainly because I am a hypocrite. Also I tell myself that at least the NCAA hasn't gone out of their way to lie about it and spread misinformation like the NFL has. Or maybe they have and I just don't know about it. The NCAA as a whole hasn't, but whatever 'it' you want to bring up I bet one of the institutions has lied and spread misinformation about. And they probably have not been adequately punished unless they tried to stonewall the NCAA investigators, which is all they really come down hard on people for.
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Grittybeard posted:The NCAA as a whole hasn't The NCAA invented the term "student-athlete" in 1964 so they wouldn't have to pay worker's compensation claims
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Henchman of Santa posted:The chaos and the pageantry and unique cultures of college football make it my favorite sport. The NFL feels stale and samey to me. There's really nothing in sports that compares to like, Clemson running down the hill or Wisconsin turning a clichéd song into something genuinely exciting. And on field there's a lot more creativity than what college basketball offers. The NFL used to have that in some respects The Dawg Pound was a thing, Green Bay's fanbase, the Baltimore Colts having a marching band, etc, etc, etc. But all of those have been pounded into being (like you said) sterile. The upsets in the NFL have also gotten more and more rare. I keep stressing it, but the whole "NFL PARITY" meme is not a thing in the AFC. If I ever see the Browns make the playoffs within the next 5 years, let alone the DIVISION? I'll be stunned. Same goes with the Bills, Titans, and other teams that have been relegated to being irrelevant because the NFL has made itself into being all about QB play.
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I'd like to say I've dialed back my NFL fandom because of the moral problems associated with watching football but watching Tom Brady pound the Jets into submission for 15 years also has something to do with it.
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FuzzySkinner posted:The upsets in the NFL have also gotten more and more rare. I keep stressing it, but the whole "NFL PARITY" meme is not a thing in the AFC. If I ever see the Browns make the playoffs within the next 5 years, let alone the DIVISION? I'll be stunned. Same goes with the Bills, Titans, and other teams that have been relegated to being irrelevant because the NFL has made itself into being all about QB play. Parity isn't a magic word that guarantees success for everyone. You still need, you know, smart front offices and coaches, which none of those teams you mentioned had or currently have. It's not Tom Brady or Big Ben's fault that your team blows draft picks on poo poo like Johnny Manziel and Brandon Weeden.
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ElwoodCuse posted:The NCAA invented the term "student-athlete" in 1964 so they wouldn't have to pay worker's compensation claims Yeah this is true enough, I stand corrected.
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When Penn State was in the sanctions, football was actually more fun. It didn't matter if there was a win or a loss. It was just a game to watch. I even missed a few games and the world didn't come to an end! Now I care again and I kind of hate it. It was more fun when I didn't care. Just want to watch the football men try to win their game and if they don't oh well whatever try again next time.
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That was a nice part of watching MSU between Saban and Dantonio but I much prefer the version that wins a lot of games
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I like the NFL because I like when the big guys hit each other. Also I don't watch any NCAA sport because I'm not down with indentured servitude.
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Benne posted:Parity isn't a magic word that guarantees success for everyone. You still need, you know, smart front offices and coaches, which none of those teams you mentioned had or currently have. No that's the fault of their elite talent hobos.
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Benne posted:Parity isn't a magic word that guarantees success for everyone. You still need, you know, smart front offices and coaches, which none of those teams you mentioned had or currently have. That's fine. You try playing in a division where two of the teams in there are going to be consistent playoff teams until their future HOF QB retirement. You can poo poo on the Browns all you want, but I've seen teams drunkenly stumble into the playoffs before with QB's that would be equal to what you posted above.
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Allow me to prove what a good person I am by telling you what sports I enjoy and don't enjoy.
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General Dog posted:Allow me to prove what a good person I am by telling you what sports I enjoy and don't enjoy. You've done enough proving what a good person you are around here, honestly.
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FuzzySkinner posted:That's fine. so is your position that the nfl should like...just let the browns in the playoffs? order the ravens to stop drafting good players? i don't get what your point is here
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Benne posted:I'm just curious as to what makes some people swear off the NFL for good while continuing to watch the sport that does as many horrible things and doesn't even pay its athletes. College ball isn't rigged.
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MourningView posted:so is your position that the nfl should like...just let the browns in the playoffs? order the ravens to stop drafting good players? i don't get what your point is here No it's just me being an idiot and a cynical idiot to boot. I don't know. Go Cavs at least.
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Aug 2, 2016 04:06
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I hate the NFL I hate Roger Goodell and Jerry Jones
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I want Jerry Jones to die and then have the Cowbys induct Jimmy Johnson into their hall of fame while the body is still warm.
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LordPants posted:I want Jerry Jones to die and then have the Cowbys induct Jimmy Johnson into their hall of fame while the body is still warm. You know Jerry is just going to enter lichhood when that happens and draft a wide receiver who got caught motorboating a kilo of cocaine a week before a bowl game.
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Tom Jackson has made his retirement official. I think that leaves Berman and Bob Ley as the only ESPN originals left.
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He was playing for the Broncos when ESPN started. But it doesn't make it any less significant.
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For a number of years, NFL Primetime was appointment teevee on Sunday late afternoons for me. Now, I cannot even bring myself to watch Berman, TJ and crew for the abomination Monday Night Countdown has become.
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I strongly suspect countdown was always crappy by modern standards and just seemed cool because there weren't 9,000 post game highlight shows back in the day, but I'm admittedly too young to remember the heyday
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Vertical Lime posted:He was playing for the Broncos when ESPN started. But it doesn't make it any less significant. Oh that's right. He's just been with them since the NFL rights. I had that mixed up.
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MourningView posted:I strongly suspect countdown was always crappy by modern standards and just seemed cool because there weren't 9,000 post game highlight shows back in the day, but I'm admittedly too young to remember the heyday I don't think so. Modern standards are fewer highlights with more bloviating. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZ83nnODDjs WE NEED MORE POINTS Almost 7 straight minutes of highlights. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m8rXYY6Ol58 Look how much there's just football on the screen. For the majority of the show it's just 2 people highlighting the plays and throwing in some light analysis (Stu comes in for one highlight package). Basically every game gets 2+ minutes of highlights. You're missing a lot of technological advances in 20 years, but you're also losing a lot of the straightforwardness of just showing the drat sports. Badfinger fucked around with this message at 19:55 on Aug 3, 2016 |
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Badfinger posted:I don't think so. Modern standards are fewer highlights with more bloviating. I don't remember that situation, but it was really exciting to watch in that clip.
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Thing is today almost everybody would of watched it live on red zone. Cutting back and forth between the games as they happened.
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George Michael's Sports Machine was good and cool. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sCC3RQsGitg
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davecrazy posted:Thing is today almost everybody would of watched it live on red zone. Cutting back and forth between the games as they happened. That is not an experience I've ever had without ~shady websites~. I don't know about "everybody", but it's probably a reasonable number. With that said, maybe I'm the weirdo, but a well cut highlight package that properly builds tension and shows the whole arc is better than live cut ins. Look how good that segment is. I watched the whole thing again and it was rad as gently caress over 15 years later. A playback of that Sunday's Red Zone broadcast does not capture that. Badfinger fucked around with this message at 21:13 on Aug 3, 2016 |
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God bored and started flicking around the channels... Michael Rappaport is a co-host on SportsNation now? Good lord.
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Niwrad posted:George Michael's Sports Machine was good and cool. I'm glad someone brought this up before I had to.  George, I hope you're up in heaven playing highlights on that ridiculous thing right now.
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Niwrad posted:George Michael's Sports Machine was good and cool. that's a rad as gently caress intro
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Crazy Ted posted:God bored and started flicking around the channels... I didn't want to sound like a LeBron/Cavs honk, but I saw him yesterday and was wanting to post the awful argument I witnessed from the guy. He was bitching that people had the nerve to compare LeBron to Jordan. The only arguments he could come up with were 1.) "HE'S NOT COOL LIKE JORDAN WAS! LOL HE'S BALDING. HIS SHOES AREN'T COOL LIKE JORDANS. THEY'RE MOON BOOTS!" 2.) "JORDAN NEVER CHASED ANYONE GROWING UP OR WHEN HE WAS IN THE PROS! IT JUST PROVES HOW WEAK LEBRON IS" I don't know much about the guy. All I know is that Bill Burr took him the woodshed on his podcast.
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Badfinger posted:That is not an experience I've ever had without ~shady websites~. I don't know about "everybody", but it's probably a reasonable number. Doesn't matter. People are not going to *not* watch Red Zone live (or follow the scores live on their phone, or on a live threat on reddit or wherever people do that kind of thing now) as it happens because there might be a great highlight later. They ARE going to watch Red Zone live and once they've seen the story play at in real time for something as disposable as a football game result they're not going to go back over and over again to relive it. The sports highlight is a dying thing, replaced by instant access. I don't need an anchor to give me meta commentary about what I'm watching. If I miss a Mets game the 1st thing I do is go to the MLB video site and watch the short clips of the important moments and I feel caught up. I'm not going to wait 20 mins for Scott Van Pelt to get to it in the course of an hour show cause he might give me a catchphrase or two.
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FuzzySkinner posted:I don't know much about the guy. All I know is that Bill Burr took him the woodshed on his podcast. Gonna check this out.
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davecrazy posted:Doesn't matter. People are not going to *not* watch Red Zone live (or follow the scores live on their phone, or on a live threat on reddit or wherever people do that kind of thing now) as it happens because there might be a great highlight later. Watching things live and well produced highlights enhancing the experience aren't mutually exclusive. I completely disagree with you. If it's something that's interesting but doesn't directly interact with your rooting interest, why wouldn't you watch a highlight segment for it? I also check out the video highlights for baseball games. But sometimes I watch the game recap, and sometimes I watch the condensed game package when I want more context. I think you're misunderstanding what I'm saying a little bit. I'm not directly advocating that what people want is to sit in front of their television and wait until 11:08 to watch a game recap. I'm saying that a contextualized highlight even after watching something live is both good and desired. If I wake up on Monday and wonder what the hell happened and there's a 5 minute recap I can watch I'm going to watch it. If I already know what happened I might watch it again just to relive some of the insanity. The worst thing that's happened to football broadcasting in the past 10 years is when NFL.com stopped doing the highlight packages with the radio broadcast calls overlayed.
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Anals of History posted:Gonna check this out. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FfLWhuAO38s Bill Burr is awesome.
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The best recap show is Match of the Day because it's nothing but highlights with maybe some analysis after showing 5-10 minutes of highlights for each of the 7-10 games. Edit: and highlights are shown with their original commentary, so it really captures the excitement of the moment.
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davecrazy posted:The sports highlight is a dying thing...If I miss a Mets game the 1st thing I do is go to the MLB video site and watch the short clips of the important moments and I feel caught up. ?????
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