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canyoneer posted:But they do free refills there I don't understand?? if he is inside filling his cup himself he isn't asking for no ice friend (drive through) 
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Do they have free refills? The one I always go to has the soda fountain behind the counter. I've never asked for a refill, I just assumed you had to buy a new drink because the only other places that do it like that are at the mall, where you definitely have to pay for a refill.
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Aug 2, 2016 18:29
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PallasAthene posted:Do they have free refills? The one I always go to has the soda fountain behind the counter. I've never asked for a refill, I just assumed you had to buy a new drink because the only other places that do it like that are at the mall, where you definitely have to pay for a refill. You just hand them your cup and say "I would like a refill"
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Aug 2, 2016 18:31
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years ago i went to a McD's in Bulgaria and they had the fountains behind the counter and I was like 'can I get a refill?' and they were like 'no idiot nothing is free here' made me feel good to be american, where at least i know i can get some goddamn sugar water
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Aug 2, 2016 19:03
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Neo Rasa posted:Anyway I'm glad I work in an office now because compared to retail holy poo poo basically every day is a vacation. I want to echo this. I managed to luck into the right position by building up a nice amount of retail / manufacturing experience and finding the right place at the right time. Anyone that smirks about retail with that poo poo like "Don't want Minimum Wage? Don't have minimum skills!" is really irritating. I've drifted all over the country and had a ton of different jobs and retail is by far the hardest, for the least amount of money. At least when I was pulling 12 hour shifts 7 days a week at a factory all I had to do was sit down and assemble things or watch a machine and I was making more in a week than I got paid at Wal Mart in a month. I'd literally rather go back to laying patios, digging ditches and running excavators in the middle of the summer because it was 3 times the money I got paid at Wal Mart. PallasAthene posted:drat. When I was in the Air Force, I heard so many bitter people bitching about how the military treats you like just a number and how they couldn't wait to get out and work in the civilian world. Apparently it's the other way around, at least in retail. You get a ton of videos when you start about unions being literal evil. There are also well known cases where retail stores have been closes down for unionizing. Also there is this atmosphere that has been cultured at large retailers. Saying "Unions" is like saying "Voldermort" or something. I've had people look terrified when I even discuss it. Back when Wal Mart workers were trying to unionize and were demonstrating on black Friday at Wal Marts trying to recruit associates I made the mistake of trying to talk about it in the break room and it was like a scene out of a western where the entire saloon stops and stares at someone. Add to that the "Shady Legal" stuff your bosses can do, certain states let them fire you without cause and justify themselves to the unemployment office. So if you piss someone off you are losing your job and aren't getting any unemployment. Which happened to me, I wasn't unionizing or anything but I lived in a rural area and worked at a retail establishment but made one of my bosses mad, got fired or a "Safety Violation" with no paperwork and he told the unemployment office it was "insubordination" which is immediate grounds for denying unemployment. I ended up getting burned badly because I decided to argue with a guy one day instead of just let him scream at me that he wanted a floor clean enough to eat off of. So yeah, when big box retailers are finally smothered by Amazon I'll be loving happy. Part of me is still bitter about the career retail douchebags that are just terrorizing people on a daily basis to make horribly inefficient stores try to show profit. I hope my retail experience is just a "Can you believe how hosed up poo poo was in those days" for my kids and grandkids.
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Fat Shat Sings posted:Also there is this atmosphere that has been cultured at large retailers. Saying "Unions" is like saying "Voldermort" or something. I've had people look terrified when I even discuss it. Back when Wal Mart workers were trying to unionize and were demonstrating on black Friday at Wal Marts trying to recruit associates I made the mistake of trying to talk about it in the break room and it was like a scene out of a western where the entire saloon stops and stares at someone. I worked for a few years at a manufacturing plant that made machinery to process paper. Somebody brought up unionizing at a routine meeting with all the floor workers and some management, and that same weird silence happened. It was never spoken of again.
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Aug 2, 2016 22:35
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i love how goons are intimately familiar with which fast food restaurants give free refills and which don't. i never even considered ordering a drink with no ice before. i barely ever finish them with the ice. like jfc do you really need a mcdonalds medium or large full of just soda ?? soda tastes like poo poo when it gets even remotely lukewarm anyway. GET ICE YOU FUCKHEADS
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Aug 2, 2016 22:54
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thathonkey posted:i love how goons are intimately familiar with which fast food restaurants give free refills and which don't. ice dilutes the soda when you're drinking it idiot
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Aug 2, 2016 23:00
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thathonkey posted:i love how goons are intimately familiar with which fast food restaurants give free refills and which don't. i don't really finish sodas anymore so idc anymore but in HS i totes would finish it off and they really do fill half or more of that poo poo up with ice drink it before it gets lukewarm duh ColoradoCleric posted:ice dilutes the soda when you're drinking it idiot plus this, the last 1/3rd to 1/2 is always lovely watered down crap.
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Aug 2, 2016 23:00
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drink it before the ice melts duh
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Aug 2, 2016 23:20
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it's kinda funny that companies treat ice as trash filler to maximise soda profits, but also as some treasure by selling bags of it for $5.99 or something ludicrous one gas station based here basically took a giant poo poo over the market share because they sold bags of ice at 99cents
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Aug 2, 2016 23:22
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I get irrationally angry at the signs that advertise that store bought ice is healthier than home made.
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Aug 2, 2016 23:33
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Fat Shat Sings posted:I want to echo this. I managed to luck into the right position by building up a nice amount of retail / manufacturing experience and finding the right place at the right time. So don't work retail and have marketable well paying skills is what I'm getting out of this dissertation.
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Aug 2, 2016 23:44
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if only life were like an MMO, with unlimited skilled jobs available for all
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Moridin920 posted:if only life were like an MMO, with unlimited skilled jobs available for all Even there assholes corner and manipulate the market.
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thathonkey posted:i love how goons are intimately familiar with which fast food restaurants give free refills and which don't. Are there any fast food places in the US that don't do free refills (for dine-in)?
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Aug 3, 2016 00:01
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Zero One posted:Are there any fast food places in the US that don't do free refills (for dine-in)? not that i'm aware of but i don't dine in at fast food places that often. usually it's like a chick fil a or something because all pretty nice locations. they definitely do refills. they'll refill your sweet tea and/or lemonade too even though those are behind the counter.
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Aug 3, 2016 00:04
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Darth123123 posted:So don't work retail and have marketable well paying skills is what I'm getting out of this dissertation. Pull yourself up by your boot straps, citizen. There are no poor, just temporarily embarrassed millionaires. (I know plenty of Bachelor degree holders stuck at low paying retail jobs, I just got lucky )
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Aug 3, 2016 00:08
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Moridin920 posted:if only life were like an MMO, with unlimited skilled jobs available for all Just run around bonking animals on the head for gold!
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Aug 3, 2016 00:38
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Fat Shat Sings posted:Pull yourself up by your boot straps, citizen. What are their degrees? Do their mom clean their room?
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Darth123123 posted:What are their degrees? Do their mom clean their room? No, mom just went to the interviews with them.
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Darth123123 posted:What are their degrees? Do their mom clean their room? what exactly are you getting at?
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Fat Shat Sings posted:So yeah, when big box retailers are finally smothered by Amazon I'll be loving happy. Part of me is still bitter about the career retail douchebags that are just terrorizing people on a daily basis to make horribly inefficient stores try to show profit. I hope my retail experience is just a "Can you believe how hosed up poo poo was in those days" for my kids and grandkids. From what I hear, Amazon warehouse jobs are just as bad.  So glad I got into a skilled trade.
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Aug 3, 2016 02:45
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MRC48B posted:From what I hear, Amazon warehouse jobs are just as bad. sex worker?
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Moridin920 posted:Some for-profit law school in SD is under fire for saying "99% of our graduates get placed in jobs" on their recruiting material but conveniently leaving out that the stat includes ANY job not just in the field. So, if you graduate law school and end up having to work as a server bc there's no legal work available (or no one wants to hire you bc you don't have a better degree), you still count as part of their 'graduate with a job' numbers. I used to see wall to wall payday loan places before Washington state toughened their usury laws. Some of the commercial properties have been empty for years, others go through stores like crazy because most businesses can't afford the rent. They'd all be filled with smoke shops if the weed laws weren't strict.
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MeatwadIsGod posted:There are a few good books that go into this, but the overriding mindset of corporate heads in America from like the '40s-'70s was that they had to act in the interests of shareholders, labor (unions helped with this), local communities in which they operated, etc. as far as was possible. In the late '70s and through the '80s and '90s you had the corporate raider types for whom the shareholders were their biggest priority by far. So you had CEOs like "Neutron" Jack Welch and "Chainsaw" Albert Dunlap who were only too happy to announce mass layoffs, pay cuts, and benefit reductions if it meant great quarterly performance for shareholders. The story of chainsaw Al was so bizarre. The guy was the stereotypical greedy CEO and ran his companies to the ground for short-term successes, you'd think after becoming famous for ruining companies he'd stop getting hired, but for some reason boards kept bringing him in and you can guess what happened. The guy was so bad that the government had to step in and ban him from being a CEO ever again. That's pretty drat impressive.
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Zero One posted:Are there any fast food places in the US that don't do free refills (for dine-in)? Yea, any fast-food places in ghetto areas will hesitate to give free refills unless the person working the counter actually saw the person asking for one also pay for the meal. Once you've seen a dude fish out a cup from the trash and scream for "Another Pepsi" despite them serving Coke products it makes sense though.
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I went to a fast food place last week that had the drink station behind the counter. It had to have been the first time in more than 5 years that I experienced that. So weird to me.
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Aug 3, 2016 03:43
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Fat Shat Sings posted:what exactly are you getting at? "should have majored in STEM/ should have tried harder!  "
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PenguinKnight posted:"should have majored in STEM/ should have tried harder! should have majored in TE. the S and M isnt even cutting it anymore.
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Original_Z posted:The story of chainsaw Al was so bizarre. The guy was the stereotypical greedy CEO and ran his companies to the ground for short-term successes, you'd think after becoming famous for ruining companies he'd stop getting hired, but for some reason boards kept bringing him in and you can guess what happened. I think it's the kind of thing that only makes sense to people firmly entrenched in that day-to-day, week-to-week, quarter-to-quarter mentality. The shareholders probably don't care if they're not in it for the long haul, and "leaning up" is always something that looks good to Wall Street so it's an easy way to inject some life into share price in the short term. Tons of poo poo that's commonplace in the corporate world now - like stock buybacks when corporations have huge cash reserves - only makes sense if you think in the incredibly short term like a shareholder or top executive. It's good for them but bad for literally everyone else. Plus CEOs have been getting rewarded for failure for so long that it's practically codified now.
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thathonkey posted:S and M isnt even cutting it anymore. this new sexual future terrifies and arouses me
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This is the best part of the costco articlequote:On average, Costco pays its workers about $20.89 an hour (in contrast to Wal-Mart which pays its full-time employees $12.67)
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This article says costco crushed sam's club after the economy imploded
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Tumble posted:Yea, any fast-food places in ghetto areas will hesitate to give free refills unless the person working the counter actually saw the person asking for one also pay for the meal. I used to work with a guy and every time we went out to eat he would ask for a cup for water, guess what he filled it with.
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JB50 posted:I used to work with a guy and every time we went out to eat he would ask for a cup for water, guess what he filled it with. quarters for the homeless man outside? gently caress what a great guy
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thathonkey posted:should have majored in TE. the S and M isnt even cutting it anymore. i majored in S&M
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