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reposting for new page  holy poo poo don't re-install classic shell they got hacked http://www.classicshell.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=6434   https://twitter.com/CultOfRazer/status/760668803097296897 Zero VGS posted:Edit: that's pretty brilliant if they waited for the Anniversary Update to do that hack, knowing that MS would completely uninstall the thing and most savvy users would immediately go to reinstall it. And I was writing a post kinda defending MS removing classic shell* when I saw the news! I spent 20 minutes fixing my computer because I stupidly clicked on the 3rd party theme I was using previously, just before remembering that themes get compatibility broken every big update for windows 10. So shell stuff with broken compatibility is a problem either way. *obviously in retrospect it would have been better if they'd just disabled it Ghostlight posted:Now that's a hack message. helps that it's much easier to fix a MBR today than it was back then
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Aug 3, 2016 04:01
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Haven't seen a hack message like that in so so long. Aww. 
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Aug 3, 2016 04:27
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 Update mostly went smoothly for me, except that the first start gave me this helpful error message: That broke explorer (which I couldn't get to run from taskman), and also the start menu. Thankfully once I could right-click I could get into the taskmanager, get to powershell and reboot it. Now everything's fine -- my taskbar's even on the side where it belongs. Didn't even change my telemetry settings or anything. Thanks Windows! Except before the update, Windows Store kinda died. It just refuses to load, and tells me the page couldn't be loaded. I kinda expected that to be fixed by the update, but it seems its still broken. I suppose my calculator or whatever will just have to remain unupdated. Not sure how I feel about the start menu showing all apps like that now, but that's a minor quibble. I do rather wish my taskbar icons would stop flickering every few minutes though. It looks kinda like it's trying to update them, but god knows what that's about. Also that hack's hilarious.
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Aug 3, 2016 04:32
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Is there a recommended free antivirus for win 10 or, barring that, a recommended, low-impact paid AV? Also holy poo poo @ that hack. I'm not at all savvy with classicshell or anything (just installed win10 today) but I noticed the tweet mentioned they 'also compromised audacity'? Like, the audio program? What the heck, I was just about to install that 
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Aug 3, 2016 04:32
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Morter posted:Is there a recommended free antivirus for win 10 or, barring that, a recommended, low-impact paid AV? windows defender is all you'll need as long as you have a solid adblocker (ublock origin) and arent randomly downloading poo poo from russia
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Aug 3, 2016 04:33
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Windows 10: RIP Vince
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Aug 3, 2016 04:35
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Klyith posted:
Oh drat. I got lucky and just barely missed the hacked version.
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Aug 3, 2016 04:36
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Aug 3, 2016 04:38
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Zero VGS posted:Edit: that's pretty brilliant if they waited for the Anniversary Update to do that hack, knowing that MS would completely uninstall the thing and most savvy users would immediately go to reinstall it. lol it wasn't a planned thing, or so they claim https://twitter.com/CultOfRazer/status/760679570550956032 hell of a coincidence for that to happen. Did the insider builds remove classic shell? Captain Novolin posted:windows defender is all you'll need as long as you have a solid adblocker (ublock origin) and arent randomly downloading poo poo from Defender is helpful, but zero-days gonna zero-day. Anyone who got hosed by this was by definition running defender. As much as this hack was a destructive black-hat type action, they do have a point that even "known-good" programs you download aren't always trustworthy. I've been thinking about stuff I use that updates itself automatically, but often still asks for admin access while doing so. If someone compromised those, I'd get hosed by it no question. Mozilla & valve probably secure their distro servers really well, but does ds4tool or hexchat? This is where I see the Microsoft perspective that if everyone just used the windows store, we'd all be safer. (then I vomit in my mouth a bit  )
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Aug 3, 2016 04:55
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I'm assuming the hacked executables weren't signed, since the attack was against FossHub, not the developers.
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Aug 3, 2016 05:06
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Installed the anniversary update. I like the side-bar functionality of the new start menu, hate the "here's everything you've ever installed" aspect. Can I get rid of the "app menu" and keep the side-bar + my selective tiles? EDIT: Jesus post-its are big now. What the hell. Snuffman fucked around with this message at 05:44 on Aug 3, 2016 |
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Aug 3, 2016 05:35
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I just updated. Only problem I had is that it wouldn't accept my PIN to sign in until I went in and removed it, then added it again. edit: this new UAC prompt is ugly af. less than three fucked around with this message at 05:44 on Aug 3, 2016 |
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Aug 3, 2016 05:41
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Klyith posted:lol it wasn't a planned thing, or so they claim Yeah, no poo poo. I'm really glad (and a little lucky) that my copy of Audacity was already updated since Chocolatey pulls the installer directly from FossHub and presumably would have dicked up my system.
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Aug 3, 2016 05:48
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Klyith posted:lol it wasn't a planned thing, or so they claim Yeah the insider build removed it and I complained about it in the feedback app. A later update gave a message about it being incompatible with the new version (in other words they wanted to show off the changes they made to the start menu).
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Aug 3, 2016 05:48
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Oh son of a bitch, I just realized i downloaded irfanview from fosshob earlier. What does this mean. What should I do? 
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Aug 3, 2016 05:52
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Morter posted:Oh son of a bitch, I just realized i downloaded irfanview from fosshob earlier. What does this mean. What should I do? if you believe their twitter, they only hit classic shell & audacity. and if it actually installed ifranview you are supposedly ok: "Our infected installer pops up a command window and then doesn't do anything more." but if you don't trust them: 1) have a recovery USB stick ready 2) bitlocker encrypted drives are not recoverable by simple repair so if you have that don't reboot the PC until you have backups or decrypt the drive or soemthing
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Aug 3, 2016 06:24
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Now thats a proper virus Non of this stealing your passwords or botnet stuff, just gently caress up poo poo and leave a message Nostalgic as gently caress
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Aug 3, 2016 06:24
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Klyith posted:if you believe their twitter, they only hit classic shell & audacity. and if it actually installed ifranview you are supposedly ok: "Our infected installer pops up a command window and then doesn't do anything more." Yeah I'm a little less worried because the forum also states that clean programs also have proper digital signatures, which mine had. Still, that's hosed up. (Also, I don't have bitlocker. I only just jumped on this win10 train hours ago. Any simple list of software for smooth sailing would be appreciated  )
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Aug 3, 2016 06:32
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Wow. Upgraded my Classic Shell the other day from the site version, so I avoided any issues when I did update tonight. But drat, if my computer got hosed tonight after I did the Anniversary Update, I'd probably be out on my deck howling at the moon and swearing at trees and poo poo.
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Aug 3, 2016 07:44
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Just updated - it bricked my laptop. Went to bed when the blue screen said "your computer will restart multiple times" and it was at like 50% completed, just woke up and it's an endless black screen with a circle animation at the bottom. Tried a hard restart - just ends up back at the black screen with the circle. Any ideas on how to fix this?
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Aug 3, 2016 07:50
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less than three posted:edit: this new UAC prompt is ugly af.  Jesus.
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Aug 3, 2016 08:16
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lmao if you use classic shell on windows 10, just lol
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Aug 3, 2016 08:19
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Segmentation Fault posted:lmao if you use default anything windows 10, just lol ftfy
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Aug 3, 2016 08:52
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Segmentation Fault posted:lmao if you use windows 10, just lol
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Aug 3, 2016 08:55
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Segmentation Fault posted:lmao windows 10, just lol
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Aug 3, 2016 09:08
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I don't get the hate for Windows 10. Disable the telemetry, privacy concerns gone. Don't like UWP? Don't use it. Don't like touchscreen poo poo? Don't go into tablet mode. It is objectively a better performing Windows 7/8 at that point (and includes some pretty neat features like multi desktop support, DX12 and Bash support). http://lifehacker.com/all-the-coolest-features-of-windows-10s-anniversary-upd-1784698775
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Aug 3, 2016 09:19
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Morter posted:Is there a recommended free antivirus for win 10 or, barring that, a recommended, low-impact paid AV?
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Aug 3, 2016 11:26
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Klyith posted:reposting for new page Well, it's more widespread than that, it was actually a FossHub hack, and at least the Audacity and Classic Shell installers were affected. Classic Shell's own website and locally hosted installer were not affected. But yeah, as others have said, this is some nostalgic poo poo.
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Aug 3, 2016 11:54
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So did this do anything other than make you reinstall Windows?
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Aug 3, 2016 12:04
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HMS Boromir posted:So did this do anything other than make you reinstall Windows? It doesn't even do that. It just nukes your MBR, which is an easy enough fix if you have install media. As far as I understand it if you're using GPT (which you should) this can't touch you.
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Aug 3, 2016 12:15
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Make sure you run Disk Cleanup after the update. Cleaned up 27 gigs on my system.
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Aug 3, 2016 13:34
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dpbjinc posted:Education editions just went live. Download here if you're impatient. (You'll need your product key.) Worked for me. Thanks bud!
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Aug 3, 2016 13:42
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Buttcoin purse posted:The only reason I'm against it is Uh, what exactly is the cost to you supposed to be? Your ISP is who sets it up and "pays" for it, and even if you have a very old modem or router that can't handle IPv6 you'll inevitably get a new one at some point that does handle IPv6. And yes, nobody's locking major stuff to IPv6 now, but that's only because 10%-13% tops of internet users currently have it enabled at all. As it stands though, IPv6 connectivity is very helpful to have in many modern online games, for torrenting, for all sorts of things. NAT doesn't really do anything to protect you anymore. All it's really good for is security-through-obscurity at this point in time, and the massive IPv6 address space provides that same "protection" on IPv6. As a reminder, ISPs out there are being assigned address spaces that are a trillion times larger than the entire IPv4 address space, and then handing out address spaces to their customers that are as large as the entire IPv4 address space, or which are the IPv4 address space squared. These are huge spaces, and even knowing your ISP's assigned prefix to your connection doesn't really help that much.
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Aug 3, 2016 13:49
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The cost is non-zero, whereas the benefit to me appears to be zero - I'm not using IPv6 now and nobody has said to me "the reason you can't do that thing you really want to do is because you don't have IPv6 enabled."
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Aug 3, 2016 14:20
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Khablam posted:Everything you do online gives up your IP, so arguing the need to brute force the address space to get valid IPs isn't really true. What NAT was "protecting" was other devices on your network that don't actively initiate internet connections most of the time. The vast IPv6 space also "protects" those same devices the same way, when they're even IPv6 enabled. (Here I'm talking about things like say network-connected printers or whatever). Routers and modem/router combos from ISPs have been providing pretty decent firewalls against random attacks for about a decade or more now, so NAT wasn't really doing anything there either - and those same devices, when they support IPv6, almost always use the same firewall functionality for the IPv6 side.
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Aug 3, 2016 14:34
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Huh, new oddity I noticed but when I set a print area in Excel 2007 cells below the print area get all stretched out and text repeats. If you move the window around or minimize and maximize it the errors vanish. Text doesn't actually repeat in those cells it just appears there visually. The data in the cells don't change. edit: Before  After 
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Aug 3, 2016 14:35
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Alexander DeLarge posted:I don't get the hate for Windows 10. Disable the telemetry, privacy concerns gone. lol nope
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Aug 3, 2016 14:38
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When I woke up my computer this morning, I got about two dozen of these popups: I also got a couple of them when I opened the disk cleanup utility. As I mentioned yesterday, I've been getting this popup on boot ever since I originally updated to Windows 10, but this has finally passed the "major annoyance" threshold. Anything I can try other than resetting?
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hooah posted:When I woke up my computer this morning, I got about two dozen of these popups: You could try to figure out what's calling the G drive/plug in a usb stick and set it to G drive with disk management and see what happens next time you reboot.
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