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Ola posted:Flightradar 24 has an interesting note.
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Alereon posted:AV Herald reports they attempted to go around, but touched down with the gear still up. Interestingly, ATC reminded them to lower the gear when issuing the landing clearance. The CBC reports the pilot announced a gear issue and planned emergency landing, but there's no mention of this being discussed with ATC. It's still early though, it'll be interesting to see what actually happened. Preview of CVR transcript: CAM: Too low gear. CAM: Too low gear. CAM: Too low gear. CAM: Too low gear. CAM: Too low gear. CAM: One hundred CAM: Too low gear. CAM: Fifty FO: Uhhh CAM: sound of impact
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It's amazing to me that air flight has gotten so safe that a plane can look like that minutes after crashing yet there weren't even any injuries let alone fatalities. Contrast that with BA 28M just 30 years ago when 40% of the passengers died from an engine fire.
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bull3964 posted:It's amazing to me that air flight has gotten so safe that a plane can look like that minutes after crashing yet there weren't even any injuries let alone fatalities. It is pretty darn good, isn't it? In other disaster-speculation news: search called off after only two years, 100 million dollars In my neck of the woods the media was running a story that Canada's senior retired air crash investigator was saying that there was evidence on a recovered flaperon that showed MH370 ditched, or attempted to ditch into the ocean. He also claimed this explained the general lack of a derbies field. Assuming that's true, it's good news, I suppose, since it means 1) the airliner would be mostly intact, and the flight data recorders would be intact, and 2) searchers can look for an entire airplane, with is a fairly distinctive object.
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Supposedly there is a fatality now - ironically a firefighter.
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Singapore apparently has been real lovely with mh370 stuff. Trying to bury it all and ignore it happened. Telling Australia to look in the wrong places early on and withholding other information for the search.
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Nebakenezzer posted:Assuming that's true, it's good news, I suppose, since it means 1) the airliner would be mostly intact, and the flight data recorders would be intact, and 2) searchers can look for an entire airplane, with is a fairly distinctive object. 
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Nebakenezzer posted:It is pretty darn good, isn't it? If they had control they should've been screaming mayday on the HF radio all the way down and calling on the sat phone. The FADEC had enough power and an antenna to call a satellite, remember?
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drunkill posted:Singapore apparently has been real lovely with mh370 stuff. Trying to bury it all and ignore it happened. Telling Australia to look in the wrong places early on and withholding other information for the search.
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hobbesmaster posted:If they had control they should've been screaming mayday on the HF radio all the way down and calling on the sat phone. The FADEC had enough power and an antenna to call a satellite, remember? Yeah, I thought of this. If you assume 1) Canadian Dude was right and 2) this was an accident, the only explanation why this didn't happen would be "effects of hypoxia". This is admittedly a smudge against the whole theory, but "pilot mistakes because their brain wasn't oxygenated" can cover a hell of a lot of stuff. Alereon posted:It seems like if they were able to ditch they'd be able to deploy the ELT and get rescued. And I sure hope for the passengers' sake they died on impact and not floating around in lifeboats suffering starvation and dehydration Another good objection
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hobbesmaster posted:If they had control they should've been screaming mayday on the HF radio all the way down and calling on the sat phone. The FADEC had enough power and an antenna to call a satellite, remember? Well, and they would've triggered the ELT manually before going down.
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drunkill posted:Singapore apparently has been real lovely with mh370 stuff. Trying to bury it all and ignore it happened. Telling Australia to look in the wrong places early on and withholding other information for the search. Do you mean Malaysia?
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mlmp08 posted:Trump hates canted pylons.
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Man, the 777 had an excellent safety record and then all of a sudden....
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Colonial Air Force posted:Man, the 777 had an excellent safety record and then all of a sudden.... Sell them to what amounts to 3rd world air lines and that's what happens.
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McDeth posted:Speaking of Aeronautical Seaplanes, somebody posted a crapload of pics of the interior of the Ekranoplan Enjoying the good old Russian blue cockpit paint job, and the fact they put a tail gunner on a boat. Sort of.
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Coffeehitler posted:Sell them to what amounts to 3rd world air lines and that's what happens. BA, Singapore Airlines, and Emirates, among others 
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inkjet_lakes posted:Enjoying the good old Russian blue cockpit paint job, and the fact they put a tail gunner on a boat. Sort of. That thing is in amazing shape considering that it's been abandoned for 30 years, some rich russian oligarch needs to spend some of that oil / russian mafia money and restore that sucker, cruise missiles and all.
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How about a video from the 777 evacuation: https://twitter.com/rehanquereshi/status/760883989490040833 People being people, trying to grab their luggage while children scream in fear and the cabin fills with smoke.
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It's took, from just where that video began and not counting when it stopped sliding, a minute twenty to get off that plane. leave your loving bag you assholes. Ola posted:Flightradar 24 has an interesting note. In arabic:  - Did you put the gear down? - I thought YOU put the gear down?!? - nooo I thought YOU put the gear down!!![scraping noises heard on CVR] [sound of engines throttling up] - TOGO OFUK TOGO YALLA YALLA TOGOalternatively: "push it up... push it way up."
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Duke Chin posted:It's took, from just where that video began and not counting when it stopped sliding, a minute twenty to get off that plane. There was a crash (I wanna say in the 70s, I have vague recollections of an accident report written on a typewriter) where the evacuation was delayed because of a fistfight in the emergency exit row, I think some people didn't make it out alive.
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On the other hand it's going to suck badly for anyone missing their passport or medicine.
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Alereon posted:Put cameras in the exit rows and criminally charge everyone who impedes the evacuation. Why not some stickers that say "in case of evacuation, leave hand luggage behind"?
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People won't pay attention to one little sticker because they heard "keep your luggage with you at all times" over the PA 1000 times between entering and leaving the airport.
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Crash74 posted:That thing is in amazing shape considering that it's been abandoned for 30 years, some rich russian oligarch needs to spend some of that oil / russian mafia money and restore that sucker, cruise missiles and all. According to wikipedia it retired in the late 90s and has been sitting in a naval base since then. So only like 20 years in a relatively safe place. But yeah that'd make a sick yacht! There was another one that was cancelled at 90% completion that was supposed to be a hospital!
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Perhaps, but my point is that raging over people behaving like this is kind of pointless when the airlines do nothing to prevent it.
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Duke Chin posted:alternatively: "push it up... push it way up." الرجال أنا قلق
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Reason number whatever I always, always have my ID/passport/whatever other paperwork is critical physically on my body. My paperback book and change of clothes can burn. But it'd suck to divert to a not so awesome place and realize my passport is in my bag.
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Ola posted:Perhaps, but my point is that raging over people behaving like this is kind of pointless when the airlines do nothing to prevent it.
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Ola posted:It's kind of weird that the airlines don't mention hand luggage in the They don't? It's always printed on the card that they tell you to read, and I'm sure I've heard at least one airline (BA perhaps?) mention not to take hand luggage down the emergency slide (along with removing high heels).
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Since I almost never hve more than a small backpack at my feet, I can imagine grabbing it if I didn't feel I was instantly gonna die or need to swim/climb out of a sideways plane. But gently caress overhead bins forever. That poo poo is dead to me.
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mlmp08 posted:Reason number whatever I always, always have my ID/passport/whatever other paperwork is critical physically on my body. Same. I always keep that poo poo on lock down. PCjr sidecar posted:الرجال أنا قلق
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I'd sort of miss my CPAP after the plane burned, but I'd rather deal with some lovely sleep until I could get a new one than burning to death in the airplane.
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Die peacefully in your sleep or die a fiery death in a tin tube of acrid smoke and panicked desperation? ~You Make The Call~
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PCjr sidecar posted:الرجال أنا قلق Guys, I'm concerned?
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