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So we ended up with the exact same team as last time except we exchanged a meat shield for the exact opposite of that.
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You also missed out on bonus dialogue I had to record offscreen. I was wrong about the Mars thing being the only time it happens, it's just that's the only time the game signals it happening.
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kefkafloyd posted:Same. I already had to clear out some non-goons who quit but with the last round of people coming in I'm maxed out again. Also wish they would have changed the battle music for the Dark Moon stages like they did for the map. The level song is cute but I've heard it enough. How can you tell who is inactive? Im having the same issue with the friends cap 
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RMZXAnarchy posted:So we ended up with the exact same team as last time except we exchanged a meat shield for the exact opposite of that. It's got Jupiter and three of the four Outers, that's pretty much the best possible team, mathematically speaking.
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Let's refer to this party setup as Team Gas Giant.
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 So here's our party. Next time I have to get creative in how we do this so I get some variety. I will make you all choose diversity yet. Also I just want to point out that everyone who we left behind is getting further and further behind in levels. The "second party" does absolutely nothing here. This animation is not an edit I made, by the way. This is a game that seriously does the Poochy thing 5x over as a sincere scene transition.  The place is crystal-laden, and while it kind of resembles their lair from the series, it loses something in that it's neither oppressive and a drain on our powers, nor a labyrinthine maze of darkness.  Also the only thing of note in this entire place is this upper platform, with a merchant and Neptune's last accessory. This opening room is free of random encounters! However, again, we're trapped in here until... blah blah. This dungeon is where the training wheels have exploded violently off the bike in a cloud of shrapnel.  So before we go any further, man, y'all kinda hosed me on this opening part of the area! Woo boy. Grinding ensued.  The problem is what I had to grind against.  Ryuax is a monster that could reverse the flow of time to reflect attacks back at their wielder, and yet, she isn't the dangerous motherfucker here.   You see, Jamanen here is a slime-golem made of wine, and oh, these bitches can cast an all-target petrify. Right now, every single enemy in here is faster than this party, and their very first attack took out my two strongest damage dealers. My first encounter in this UFO turned into "Only Space Queers Can Save Us All". They did, but nobody else got experience, so it was still a low blow. God, grinding here sucks.  In the midst of this, though, Jupiter became a loving beast. Part of it is her being in the lead slot now, but she's levels behind everyone else and using her multi-target attack as opposed to the stronger single-shot one, and she's doing 5x the damage of Saturn. (For comparison's sake, if I stick Saturn in front and Jupiter in rear slot, the former does ~500 and the latter can still do ~700-1000 depending on enemy.) This party is basically "3 murderers, a healer, and Neptune". Sorry, Neptune, you've become the weak link in this party.  Here's what we looked like going into the boss room. You might notice I have described nothing about this dungeon! Let me remedy this by telling you how it's poorly designed.  You see, the opening room contains 3 "mirrors" like this, which all resemble doorways. I only know they're mirrors because of the final room of the dungeon. Two will do nothing when approached.  The third does the wavy-screen teleport bullshit. It takes us to a room containing a glowing well to come back here, and two mirrors. This room is so dull I entirely forgot to screenshot it. Here is the secret of the two mirror room: just go left every time. That's it. Repeatedly go left until there's only one mirror, and then you're at the boss. It's yet another case of an identical room repeated as dungeon filler.  So the Spectre Sisters are waiting for us here, and I'll get into each individually, but the overview: these four were the grunt-tier named characters in the Black Moon Clan, a more feminine take on the Four Kings from the first arc. In the manga, Sailor Moon iced each of them after they got owned by their counterpart, and in the anime, they were redeemed to the side of good and took up odd jobs in Tokyo, showing up until the end of the arc. Their supervisor was a real prick. The translation has a quick back and forth where Sailor Moon asks "Why are you doing this, people who rejoined polite society?" and Petz (the leader of the four) just goes "Saphir made us." Please note: Saphir is neither their big boss, the dude they interact with most, and from memory his actions in this game don't fit this either. I hate this patch. If we had brought the Inner Senshi along here, each would question her counterpart. Mars asks Koan about true love (look it will make more sense in a sec). Mercury asks Berthier if this will make any more sense after an rear end kicking, and Berthier goes "Look, I absolutely do not want to do this either, but if I'm the only one who runs away, I'm the only one who gets disintegrated." Jupiter and Petz have a very stoic conversation that is nearly word for word "Weren't you happy?" "I was. Forgive us. Destiny sucks." Venus and Calaveras just go "God damnit you guys."  And then the gauntlet begins. Now, before I break down Koan for you, let me just state how much of a loving leap this boss rush is. There is no time to heal between fights like we had with the DD Girls. Koan here is the weakest sister, and she has 7000 HP. The previous champion was Super Beryl, at 4k. All together, the sisters have 49000 HP between them. My party members have 2000 or so. While Koan can't really hurt us... well, let's get there.  Anyway, Koan. She's young, brash, has flame powers, and wants to get into her supervisor's pants, a fella named Rubeus. It cannot be stated enough how much of a prick he is. He shat on her non-stop, even though she might arguably have been one of the most successful villains, breaking Sailor Mars' ankle and only being stopped by Tuxedo Mask from killing Chibi-Usa. So Rubeus gave her a bomb and went "Okay look, strap this poo poo to yourself and go hug the girl, I don't loving know. Fuckup." At this point, the Sailors went "Holy poo poo, girl. That's just not even funny. Okay, we're getting you some help." She would proceed to live in Tokyo and show up conveniently whenever one of her sisters bombed out of the Black Moon Clan to go "Y'know, I got a place now, you can come shack up with me for a bit, get back on your feet, not live with that loving maniac anymore." Meanwhile, in the manga she set Catholic schoolchildren on fire and died. Naoko Takeuchi, everyone! Koan is not worth discussing as a boss fight, because her attacks are shrugged off by this crew.  Also, remember when I said she had 7000 HP? Yeah, uh. We do a lot of damage now. Sorry, Koan. This is brutal.   Berthier was Sailor Mercury's match, and led to a chess match to the death. No, really. She is basically most interesting because she was old Doctor Who villain "The Master" in effect - mesmerist, didn't ever stick around to see the plots where they might blow up on her, and used proxies/flunkies to great effect. She actually learned Ami's civilian identity, which is how she was able to blackmail her into the Death Chess duel (wherein Tuxedo Mask rosed some poo poo up because I think you're seeing a pattern here). In the manga she flooded things and died. Look, I'm not going to pretend the manga was always superior.  Berthier is where the game decides to start hitting like a tank on anyone who doesn't have their complete accessory set/who is underlevelled. So, my two heaviest hitters. Dirty pool, Another Story!  I took this screenshot fully expecting to go "And this is where I cratered out in the next fight and had to grind", but Jupiter levelled up, healing her to full. Thank gently caress.   Calaveras was a pretty face and a slacker, which meant when it was down to her and Petz, that poo poo drove Petz and Rubeus nuts. She was actually more interesting in the manga, where as the final survivor, she posed as a medium and tried to turn the public against the Senshi, claiming the Black Moon UFO was 'saviors from space', aimed to break Venus by showing her all of her friends being tortured in space, and dying to a very pissed off Venus and Moon team-up. In this game, she, too, hits like a tank, and while she shares her sisters' skill of "Dark (element)" multitarget attacks, she also has a special attack of her own that'll slice a character's HP in half.  As a result, this fight took a while.  The only break in this gauntlet comes before Petz, the final fight, where she asks for forgiveness and then proceeds to come out swinging.   Petz is 100% not to be hosed with under any costs, willing to kill Calaveras in an attempt to take out the Scouts in the anime (until she too found out Rubeus was trying to kill her off as well, a la Koan), or in the manga, where, and I am not exaggerating a word of this, she unleashed a bioweapon on Tokyo and replaced every single corpse with a Droid to destabilize history itself.  I captured the screenshot poorly, but she, too, has the entire-party petrification attack, and it will hit, and she will kick the poo poo out of you while you try healing from it.  Petz is 20,000 HP full of motherfucking spite, status effects, and smashing your face in. Heal early, cure anyone the instant a status effect hits them, and for the love of god, take every single slow turn you can to just blast her with every attack in the book, chew through all your Colognes or other EP-restorers to do it, do not stop.  Usagi might cry for those four after wiping them from the face of the earth, but god damnit, I didn't. I wanted to burn this UFO down like they did in the anime. But no. We don't do that. We teleport back down to where we started. I did not edit this. This is what happens when we land.    The goal was literally ten feet away from us when we lept onto that UFO for no real reason. I hate this game. Another good "I didn't edit this" moment occurs in the next scene:    If this game was worth a poo poo, we'd see a screenfull of facepalms and fallen-over Sailor sprites after that. You'd think the answer is "we use that door you idiots meddled in", but no. Actually it's "everyone transform and look doofy". The game takes us to Apsu at this point, and I'm just going to leave you with the horrible mental image that I'm going to bed on:   Bad Guy Breast Exams!
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Aug 6, 2016 15:02
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Jamanen is one of the most commonly used monsters of the week in horrible, fan-made porn of this franchise. Why did I tell you this? Because I have known some very terrible Sailor Moon fans over the years. I'm going to need a new party soon, so please, tell me your worst Sailor Moon fan story and I'll pick a few of you to give me party suggestions.
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Aug 6, 2016 15:06
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Is Chibi-Usa's sprite standing on a wall divider? Jesus game. And funny thing, all the weird costumes DM girls wear, along with Serenity's and Black Lady's dresses and a few other outfits are modeled after actual High Fashion clothing, even down to the Kooran's hair style. 
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Aug 6, 2016 15:22
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Geez Neo-Queen Serenity...you couldn't magic up a mammogram machine?
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Aug 6, 2016 15:24
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END ME SCOOB posted:tell me your worst Sailor Moon fan story But Scoob, this fan translation/blatant cashgrab anime tie-in game isn't mine! And I could never be half as bad as this fan story.  That said, all of my awful fan stories come from right around 1999 and the era of MSTing/sporking bad Sailor Moon fanfic. Oh god, there is some  trash out there in this fandom, Google at your own risk. And the authors of that trash will defend it to the death as not only their holy right to free speech in writing hideously out of character gorn, but treat it as their own personal Destiny, to put it in this game's words. I'm abstaining from the actual vote, here.
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Aug 6, 2016 15:49
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I don't have a Sailor Moon story, but wanted to point out it's the middle character in the cluster formation who gets the biggest damage boost, not the front two. Jupiter with a 1EP multi-target attack wrecks enemies from that spot.
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Aug 6, 2016 16:27
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END ME SCOOB posted:My first encounter in this UFO turned into "Only Space Queers Can Save Us All".
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Aug 6, 2016 16:40
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This is the part of the game where I quit, because I vividly remember that black and green crystal palace being the last thing I saw. I don't have any good bad Sailor Moon fan stories. I used to troll livejournal to laugh at all the fan made self-insert senshi, but the countless variants of Sailor Earth were just painfully unimaginative. They're gone with the rest of lj now People picked some truly heinous color combinations for uniforms in an effort to stand out from the official senshi, too. The real shame was that not one of them had attacks named Colorblind Love Supreme or something.
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Aug 6, 2016 18:23
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Mention the name "Oscar" or the title "Artemis' Lover" to any fan who was around during the late 90s and watch them twitch/shudder. There is no fan worse than Oscar was.
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Aug 6, 2016 19:11
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Dopefish Lives! posted:Mention the name "Oscar" or the title "Artemis' Lover" to any fan who was around during the late 90s and watch them twitch/shudder. There is no fan worse than Oscar was. Oh gently caress you, I forgot about that poo poo.
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Aug 6, 2016 19:21
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Dopefish Lives! posted:Mention the name "Oscar" or the title "Artemis' Lover" to any fan who was around during the late 90s and watch them twitch/shudder. There is no fan worse than Oscar was. I hate you. 
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Aug 6, 2016 19:25
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Sailor Moon showed me what a fanfic spork was. Google "Jeffrey "OneShot" Wong" for the most fanfic I've ever read, and also a bunch of really bad ones.Or... don't. Don't is good too. Even with the sporking I refuse to go anywhere near that "fan"fic ever again.
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Aug 6, 2016 20:15
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Dopefish Lives! posted:Mention the name "Oscar" or the title "Artemis' Lover" to any fan who was around during the late 90s and watch them twitch/shudder. There is no fan worse than Oscar was. I know I don't want to go down this horrible rabbit hole, but at the same time I'm morbidly curious.
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Aug 6, 2016 20:31
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Dopefish Lives! posted:Mention the name "Oscar" or the title "Artemis' Lover" to any fan who was around during the late 90s and watch them twitch/shudder. There is no fan worse than Oscar was. AUGH.
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Aug 6, 2016 20:35
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Geizt posted:I know I don't want to go down this horrible rabbit hole, but at the same time I'm morbidly curious. Hermaphrodite named Oscar was in love with a cat. It was sexually explicit. The description is nowhere near as bad as the fics themselves. Yes. Plural.
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Aug 6, 2016 20:44
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 I shouldn't've said anything, I knew how deep this rabbit hole went.The sad part is that Wong and Oscar are not the worst out there, just some of the worst that did self-insert poo poo.
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Aug 6, 2016 20:52
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Dopefish Lives! posted:Mention the name "Oscar" or the title "Artemis' Lover" to any fan who was around during the late 90s and watch them twitch/shudder. There is no fan worse than Oscar was. You're dead to me, Dopefish Lives.
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Aug 6, 2016 21:15
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There was a guy that started his fic with a long goony rant about the DIC dub. The actual fic was about Sailor Moon growing a penis so she could anally rape her brother. 
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Aug 6, 2016 21:29
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Violet_Sky posted:There was a guy that started his fic with a long goony rant about the DIC dub. And against all odds, it's still online and looking exactly like it did in the early 00s.
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Aug 6, 2016 21:40
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Haifisch posted:Not as terrible as the fans who did actual fanworks, but I remember a site dedicated to pointing out all the differences between the dub and original. Not bad in itself, but I remember a lot of unnecessary bitchiness about it. Holy poo poo it's proto 
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Aug 6, 2016 21:47
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That rabbit hole cut both ways. I don't know if the major site that considered the Japanese version "non-canon" is still around, but christ almighty.
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Aug 6, 2016 21:51
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I don't have any horrifyingly bad Sailor Moon Fandom stories to share, thank God for that. I don't think you ever mentioned though, Scoob: What the hell does that Luck stat on the main menu actually mean? How often you get attacked? How often items drop in combat?
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Aug 6, 2016 21:56
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I once had a penpal (thanks school outreach programs) who would send me xeroxed scans of the copious amounts of sailor moon poo poo she imported, along with her hand written rants on how superior the Japanese series was to the  HACK JOB DiC did. That was back when Stars was currently airing and the Internet was just the a handful of warring fan sites each claiming the other stole their scans, so she was my only source for news.Then I made the mistake of asking if it was really all that bad and she stopped writing.
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Aug 6, 2016 21:59
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Snorb posted:I don't think you ever mentioned though, Scoob: What the hell does that Luck stat on the main menu actually mean? How often you get attacked? How often items drop in combat? As far as I can tell and any amount of research has shown me, "absolutely nothing".
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Aug 6, 2016 22:12
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TBF, erasing the homosexual relationships was pretty lovely of DIC, but mainstream culture wasn't as tolerant of LGBT people as they are now. The Blue Ranger got bullied for being gay on the set of Power Rangers.
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I do think the DiC dub is pretty awful, personally. Only ever watched one episode (Chibi-Usa's intro) and the voice actors and the added dialog made even the 12 year old me cringe. I mean, nowadays where the Japanese version is easily accessible and there's a more accurate dub for people who prefer dubs, it's not the end of the world, but it's not good either. If you have nostalgia for it and enjoy it, fine, but don't pretend it's a good dub.
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Aug 6, 2016 22:43
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I think it's better than the new dub of the same episodes. The voices have a TON more character to them and they have names reasonable to the language of the show. The only issue I have with it is the thinly veiled "the scouts were captured by the DD girls" and the kissin' cousins.
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END ME SCOOB posted:Jamanen is one of the most commonly used monsters of the week in horrible, fan-made porn of this franchise. Why did I tell you this? Because I have known some very terrible Sailor Moon fans over the years. I'm going to need a new party soon, so please, tell me your worst Sailor Moon fan story and I'll pick a few of you to give me party suggestions. Uhhh... There are so many. Artemis's lover and its sequels have been mentioned. Then there's RPM which is a self insert Spawn/ Sailor Moon crossover wherein the villain protagonist kidnaps Mercury and does many bad things to her including mind control. And a fanfic I found that was baloon fetish- the fanfic. It again involved a self insert character and a villain who literally balooned several senshi, but especially ami, who fell in love with the insert character. On a MUCH better note was Sailor Jupiter vs Godzilla. It was just a long fight between the two. I MSTed all of these and more back in the day. There was also a Sailor Moon meets the backstreet boys fic, but that's just stupid, not actively offensive.
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It's me, I'm the horrible fan story  This was back during S first airing on Toonami and I was about 10 or 11, so naturally when I'd read on internet fan shrines about how Super Cool Best Senshi Ever Uranus and Nepture were hella gay, I would rant on my ezboards Pokemon forum about how dumb and not true that was because lesbians were gross and there's no evidence guys, just things being taken out of CONTEXT geez!! Like I could buy into how Prince Uranus stories were completely not true because Naoko Takeuchi said so but at the same time her (probably?) saying yeah they're totally gay wasn't a good enough explanation for me. In my defense, I was raised super born-again and grew out of that nonsense within a year or so when I started to realize that oh yeah, being way into both girls and boys might actually be a thing huh. That's pretty tame I guess, I never really read Sailor Moon fanfic because even as a kid you could tell right away that they're all trash. I do remember obsessively reading a fanshrine that wrote like choose your own adventure style stories about the senshi going on adventures though, that's how I had to learn the Japanese names so I could follow along properly.
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Ryushikaze posted:Artemis's lover and its sequels have been mentioned. This sounded so familiar, until I finally remembered where I'd heard of it. Back when I used to watch stuff from Channel Awesome (back then it just just That Guy With the Glasses), my favorite series there was Masterpiece Fanfic Theater (where a guy did dramatic readings of bad fanfic, he even got LittleKuriboh in to do character voices for a Yu-Gi-Oh fic), and Artemis' Lover was featured in one episode. It was gloriously terrible.
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Rabbi Raccoon posted:I think it's better than the new dub of the same episodes. The voices have a TON more character to them and they have names reasonable to the language of the show. The only issue I have with it is the thinly veiled "the scouts were captured by the DD girls" and the kissin' cousins. I really don't get this complaint, as I believe there's no reason to change names for a dub unless they are heavily, heavily punny like in Pokemon and Ace Attorney (not just meaningful like Sailor Moon - something that was only really localized with Usagi -> Serena). Then again, one of my favorite dubs is Mushishi's, which is a show as Japanese as they come.
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Back when I had the time to do it and cared considerably less about quality, I used to dabble in fanfic writing myself. One of the ideas I took on was how weak the monster-of-the-day enemies in Sailor Moon seemed to be, particularly since whatever attack Sailor Moon had would defeat anything pretty effortlessly by the time the character-of-the-day development and stock footage transformation/attack animations had filled the time the episode might otherwise have spent on a meaningful fight. So I wrote a story where one of the villains could bring people from other dimensions to fight them. There was obviously a lot going on, and I was revealing the secrets of the story one plot point at a time, but I got hung up somewhere along the line, ran out of inspiration and time, and stopped a scene short of what was probably going to be one of my favorite chapters. I'm still hoping to go back and finish it someday, but LPs are taking up most of the time I have anymore, and the writer's block convinces me I'm trying to do something wrong and need to rethink the end of the chapter. It's no Oscar story, but I feel that being written by me is bad enough to qualify for any worst list.
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hopeandjoy posted:I really don't get this complaint, as I believe there's no reason to change names for a dub unless they are heavily, heavily punny like in Pokemon and Ace Attorney (not just meaningful like Sailor Moon - something that was only really localized with Usagi -> Serena). Then again, one of my favorite dubs is Mushishi's, which is a show as Japanese as they come. No, you see, anything that's in English isn't allowed to have Japanese characters in it because their names aren't English.
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Waffleman_ posted:No, you see, anything that's in English isn't allowed to have Japanese characters in it because their names aren't English. That's not at all what I'm saying. I just mean when everything else is in English, it's a little jarring to hear something that's so clearly not. I just prefer Serena, Lita, Mina, and Rini to Usagi, Makoto, Minako, and Chibiusa.
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