|
dongsbot 9000 posted:i cant believe my "whats your flavour name" actually worked i really am a mafia superstar
|
# ? Aug 16, 2016 14:53 |
|
|
# ? Apr 23, 2024 08:47 |
|
I have that same problem, chaos. It doesn't make me think AS is more town tho!!!
|
# ? Aug 16, 2016 15:15 |
|
If she is town tho i think the only reason keepin her alive makes sense is if she tracked a passive scum
|
# ? Aug 16, 2016 15:19 |
|
are we positing there are 2 scum left a jailer/rber and a goon
|
# ? Aug 16, 2016 15:28 |
|
I'm positing there's a jailer. I don't know the other, but I wouldn't be surprised to see a mirror godfather the way jimson and tmm were both enablers
|
# ? Aug 16, 2016 16:00 |
|
well a godfather is a goon at this pt
|
# ? Aug 16, 2016 16:09 |
|
lumpo listo friends of town (100%): me friends of town (80%) tremta friends of town (60%) atomic soda meinberg more scummy than town: moat must reevaluate their posts b/c i dont remember any of them: chaoslord propmach
|
# ? Aug 16, 2016 16:12 |
|
hey is anyones flavour a girl
|
# ? Aug 16, 2016 16:15 |
|
dongsbot 9000 posted:are we positing there are 2 scum left a jailer/rber and a goon I think so. I guess it could also be Jailer/Ninja which would help explain why the tracker has continued to live, but jailer/ninja/doc compared to rolecop/godfather/goon seems a bit.. much. Tremendous Taste posted:If she is town tho i think the only reason keepin her alive makes sense is if she tracked a passive scum Looking over my notes, . But, if AS is town, I feel like that has to make you the jailer. Here are the five players that aren't us: PMach was confirmed to have been jailed by a flipped town player. This could be a roleblock, too, I suppose, but with the flavor I think the answer of a jailer makes the most sense. Moat was not caught moving by the tracker and I believe the jailer would be acting every night, whether jailing or killing. Meinberg is a claimed doctor, I believe that. Dongsbot, see moat AS is the tracker, I lean toward believing it. The rest of the game has been "cleared" in some way, so you would have to be the jailer assuming the jailer has acted every night, which I don't understand why they would have skipped an action. The problem I run into is how has no one else been caught out moving? I suppose when TMM died, if the usurper teams goes "Goon kills, jailer jails", then moat has to be town since he didnt move that night (assuming 3/3 on the scum teams split). So I guess that conclusion would lead to you/Dongs/TMM as the usurper team, since TMM would have killed N3 since his doc power was gone, Dongs as goon would have sat at home (as confirmed by tracker), and taste would jail. So, into one sentence with a bunch of assumptions...IF AS is the town tracker, and IF PMach is a town that was actually jailed, and IF Meinberg is a town doctor, and IF the scum teams were split 3/3, and IF the remaining two scum are a goon and a jailer, and IF the jailer has put someone in jail every night, then the scum team has to be dongs as goon and then taste (or myself I guess, but from my seat its definitely taste) as jailer, right? Lot of assumptions on that whole team part that adds Dongs into the mix, so that part very well could be wrong, but at a minimum I feel comfortable with the "Everyone else in the game definitely isn't the jailer" assumption, so I'm rolling with it. ##vote Taste. Now for someone to come and point out where I made a simple error
|
# ? Aug 16, 2016 16:16 |
|
well im not a goon so im not sold on ur brilliant dissertation, potential scum chaoslord
|
# ? Aug 16, 2016 16:21 |
|
I am gonna re read tmm today when I get a chance. Just got to work now. Also taste has been very buddy buddy which seems odd to me.Tremendous Taste posted:I have that same problem, chaos. It doesn't make me think AS is more town tho!!! Buddying up, public hand wringing, throwing shade on AS (who I think is the towniest of the town's) it's a scummy trifecta. Anyway, bathroom break is over
|
# ? Aug 16, 2016 16:25 |
|
dongsbot 9000 posted:well im not a goon so im not sold on ur brilliant dissertation, potential scum chaoslord Like I said, lot of assumptions to bring you into the mix as the goon, but if you accept that AS is a tracker, Meinberg is a doc, and Pmach was jailed (which the latter two haven't really ever been up for debate), then the jailer is me or taste. If you don't accept AS as the tracker then nothing I said matters.
|
# ? Aug 16, 2016 16:24 |
|
hmm very problematic cuz on my trustolist i trust tremta more than you but what if ive been led astray
|
# ? Aug 16, 2016 16:29 |
|
I guess theoretically Moat or Dongs could still be the jailer and just didn't act, but I find that hard to accept. When Night 4 fell, the remaining alive players were Atomic Soda - Town by tracker claim BottleKnight - Town CCKeane - Town chaoslord - ? dongsbot - ? Meinberg - Town by Doc Claim Moatillata - Tracked nowhere Podima - Town Propaganda Machine -Town by jail SirSamVimes - Town The Ninth Layer - Mafia Tremendous Taste - ? If you're rolling with the universally accepted town doc claim and town "I was jailed" claim (well Pmach didnt claim it but a town Podima claimed it about them) and if you accept the tracker claim, the only folks who could have performed the Usurper kill were me, taste, or dongs,
|
# ? Aug 16, 2016 16:44 |
|
or podima was actually the one jailed and the flavour is tricky or pmach has a "if youre nking someone you cant be investigated" clause or smth or moat is a ninja
|
# ? Aug 16, 2016 16:55 |
|
but yea tremta is scum would solve this mess a lil better
|
# ? Aug 16, 2016 16:55 |
|
i wonder if the scum team gets a lil stronger cuz they killed theo ther scum team
|
# ? Aug 16, 2016 16:56 |
|
dongsbot 9000 posted:or podima was actually the one jailed and the flavour is tricky or pmach has a "if youre nking someone you cant be investigated" clause or smth or moat is a ninja Sure, there are scenarios you can make, but like I say, I have a hard time believing the scum teams would be Godfather/goon/rolecop (doc enabler) vs Doc (cop enabler)/Ninja/Jailer That second team just seems way stronger to me. Your point is taken about "Maybe it was podima jailed and the flavor was tricky" is taken, but with how specific Ecco is about flavor (I mean you literally caught someone out yesterday on a flavor slip), I think "Their door was locked" vs "You didn't make it out of your room" is a pretty big distinction. I definitely could be wrong, which is why I posted it for others to take a look over, but with all that in mind I am happy with my vote on taste
|
# ? Aug 16, 2016 17:01 |
|
chaoslord, using your knowledge that tremta must be scum from your night action analysis, can you pull any particularly shady looking posts he made from his post history to fully convince a reluctful dongsbot 9000
|
# ? Aug 16, 2016 17:05 |
|
I will look at it tonight. Have to go to work now. Boooooo.
|
# ? Aug 16, 2016 17:10 |
|
I don't think treating players' assertions as valid when I agree is buddying up but ymmv I haven't dissected chaos' logic train but if he's setting me up as the only possibility for jailer possibility it *must* be incorrect as I am not
|
# ? Aug 16, 2016 17:26 |
|
In a world where I'm picking between chaos and as for scum, I'm probably going as on content and chaos on gut. AS wins that battle for me
|
# ? Aug 16, 2016 17:26 |
|
Wait If there's a ninja and a jailer, it's in scum's interest for the jailer not to act. The tracker is functionally useless at that point.
|
# ? Aug 16, 2016 17:28 |
|
Last thought: AS isn't the smart lynch for today, one of her claims would be. Dollars to doughnuts it's a ninja. I read dong as town, so moat is the conclusion for me. I could be convinced to look at chaos, I guess, but dongs/pmach/meinberg strike me as town. ##vote moat
|
# ? Aug 16, 2016 17:39 |
|
I think a read of moat bears him out as the best choice in a vacuum, even if you don't share my ranking/strategy
|
# ? Aug 16, 2016 17:40 |
|
😴
|
# ? Aug 16, 2016 18:30 |
|
Interesting, second time to drop a vote and peace out. Also more hand wringing. Also gently caress PHONE POSTING BECAUSE I JUST LOST A HUGE POST I HAD MADE ANALYZING TMMs posts. Also meinberg, did you claim you could doc twice in a row? What does your PM say about that AS can you track the same person twice in a row? I'm pretty sure about tremta guys ##vote tremendous taste Gonna dredge through TMMs posts AGAIN.
|
# ? Aug 16, 2016 18:44 |
|
Are you trying to pin that on me? Because I posted five times and nobody posted for an hour, so it's literally the opposite of what you're accusing
|
# ? Aug 16, 2016 18:48 |
|
Anything else you can try to hit me with that is obviously the opposite of what occurred m8
|
# ? Aug 16, 2016 18:51 |
|
Rather than get into a pissing match, I'd appreciate outside opinions on whether moat is engaging me in good faith.
|
# ? Aug 16, 2016 18:57 |
|
I agree I hate slap fights but I took this to mean you were going to bed and done speaking. Is that not what it means?
|
# ? Aug 16, 2016 19:02 |
|
I meant it as being asleep because nobody was posting But regardless, it's after an hour of nothing. I'm not just dashing even then
|
# ? Aug 16, 2016 19:07 |
|
I understand that people have to work and can't post all the time but it's super jarring to be in the middle of a conversation where you're being accused, reach an epiphany and present your opinions, and then nothing Inevitably those posts won't be considered with the same gravity because recency will dictate play
|
# ? Aug 16, 2016 19:12 |
|
Did you get anything re TMM-Chaos while making your big post, moat?
|
# ? Aug 16, 2016 19:14 |
|
Lots of anti-kash sentiment to begin with.TMMadman posted:A useful post. Are you just trying to inflate your post count, even though you've already posted double the next highest person, because you're scum? Suspicious of dongs for doing what he has been doing all the time lately also for not voting AR TMMadman posted:This honestly feels like a really scummy push on AR. Defending AR bc he knows he is town TMMadman posted:I don't think either AA or AR are scum. I could see Podima as scum. I'm also still suspicious of dongs. Throws shade on Dongs and Pod. Votes kash TMMadman posted:Alright, while I do agree that Podima looks pretty scummy because of the way he waffled about AR and would definitely vote him, I think some other people look pretty bad in light of the flips. Important because WHO IS THE WHITE NOISE? TMMadman posted:Honestly, while I'd vote for Podima today, I'm kind of thinking we should just lynch a lurker. Ecco won't modkill them and they are just going to be a thorn in our side. Hedging on pod and AS while still committing to vote TMMadman posted:Don't worry little piglet. Merk would be my #1 lurker target. I know his life is busy, but it's hard to imagine it's so busy that he can't find a few minutes to just check into the thread. Prior to this dongs calls out tmm for making excuses for merk (he does a few times in other posts) And then pmom calls out taste for lurking TMMadman posted:Tremendous Who? He acknowledges (as he should) and redirects towards merk after just making excuses for merk (hmmmm) TMMadman posted:Yeah, I could see Meinberg being scum because he did seem all over the place about AR and then he basically disappeared for pretty much all of D2. Max calls out meinberg in previous post tmm me 2s without follow up TMMadman posted:Ecco games are weird, so I could see it being the truth but it could be a role for either town or scum. Rolecop tends to be a scum role, but making him power the doctor would make it harder to lynch him. However, ecco also doesn't like traditional cops, so I could see her making rolecop a town role. Setting up his future defense, this is re: max asking for his read on the jimson claim TMMadman posted:I don't like this vote. It's possible Jimson is scum, but dongs isn't offering any insight or thoughts and is seemingly discounting any possibility of Jimson being town. Going after dongs again Now this is interesting: TMMadman posted:I think this might be the right actual vote today: OK this is interesting because this in the midst of the jimson/pod/bk cop love triangle. No way this vote will get traction. Case is manufactured. Either trying to cover by casing a scum buddy or looking for a safe place to stick your vote. Also keep in mind CL changed his mind after jimsons scum slip. TMMadman posted:I didn't mention it in that post, but there's also the fact that flipped scum Inf (replaced by Glowku) dropped a fake vote on Chaoslord and I feel like he most likely named a scum buddy when he was doing his fake votes earlier. See this post: Names taste and CL, goes for CL. Here's the post he referenced: TMMadman posted:Also, since I was looking over Inf, I just wanted to consolidate his joke votes during D1 when he wasn't unvoting: TMMadman posted:Also, I'd like Meinberg to come back and give us some more thoughts, including whether he also has the ability to name an heir. Calls out meinberg and AS... TMMadman posted:Man, this day has become a real mess. Now is certain of meinberg and AS after much hand wringing. TMMadman posted:Also, I noticed while looking over the game that PMach hasn't really commented much on the BK/Pod situation or about Jimson. I'd really like to see some thoughts from her about both of those things cause I'm starting to get paranoid. Calls out pmach throws shade TMMadman posted:I just don't know about you either but I'm letting it pass right now because Atomic has some kind of result on you. I'd think that she'd be going after you harder if she thought you were scum. This was in response to PMom asking him for his read of them. He has a neutral read on Taste (???), TNL (opposing scum team), SSV (town), keane (town), and me (town). All of whom he would know of or suspect to be town bc he is scum yet.. maybe one scum slipped into the list? ALSO HE MAKES NO mention of pmach after just calling her out. TMMadman posted:Yeah I suppose I can see that being the case. Plus, pretty much everyone agreed that Max was the most town even without a result on him. Post jimson lynch now throws shade on AS He then says he believes scum may have a framer to explain the pod/bk disparity. He makes two posts about it. Then he says this: TMMadman posted:I think it's more likely than you and Podima having differing sanities obviously. Hmmmm mmm Then he begins his death throes. My first post was a bit more in depth but after I lost it...
|
# ? Aug 16, 2016 19:47 |
|
Yes read above
|
# ? Aug 16, 2016 19:48 |
|
If possible I would like meinberg and AS to answer my questions
|
# ? Aug 16, 2016 19:50 |
|
Oh my god Dareus you loving clown
|
# ? Aug 16, 2016 19:50 |
|
Mafia edit: wrong thread, obv
|
# ? Aug 16, 2016 19:52 |
|
|
# ? Apr 23, 2024 08:47 |
|
Lol I was really confused
|
# ? Aug 16, 2016 19:53 |