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BlitzBlast posted:This isn't really spoilers, it was part of D's ending in 2nd OGs so you're kind of expected to know it going in. Only a few of them know about some of these details. Viletta and Guilliam to be specific.
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The problem with the D mechs seems pretty fixable since they have a knock off Cytron system. The Fury should be able to help them somehow.
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Aug 18, 2016 00:27
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Gilliam always stays silent on important matters and it is getting old. He could have helped make sense of issues like crossgates and This would have been a good excuse to let the D originals pilot something else for one game (in a game with a ton of decent units that don't have locked pilots, no less) until the Very Moral Robot Science Staff made a safe alternative to the Sympathia.
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Aug 18, 2016 00:37
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GimmickMan posted:Gilliam always stays silent on important matters and it is getting old. He could have helped make sense of issues like crossgates and The only reason the D guys are piloting at all is because they specifically need the system IIRC.
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Aug 18, 2016 00:46
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Speaking of poo poo that no one cares is dangerous, isn't there some dimensional fuckery going on with using the Wrathailem that Granteed Dracodeus just gets as a passive? Or is blinking it to evade supposed to be within tolerances? Because I don't know how strict the Knights' taboo is compared to the actual dimensional veil or whatever, but that was definitely too much for Jua-Mu.
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Aug 18, 2016 00:47
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As I recall, it's only really a bad thing if you use it to outright stop time. Also Touya has a Powerpuff acting as his Rai, so they're probably making sure he doesn't go nuts.
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Aug 18, 2016 00:52
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I dont think its ever mentioned. MD doesnt even have the "goes nuts" part. Jua-Mu just went regular crazy.
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Aug 18, 2016 00:53
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GimmickMan posted:This would have been a good excuse to let the D originals pilot something else for one game (in a game with a ton of decent units that don't have locked pilots, no less) until the Very Moral Robot Science Staff made a safe alternative to the Sympathia.
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Aug 18, 2016 00:58
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KoB posted:I dont think its ever mentioned. MD doesnt even have the "goes nuts" part. Jua-Mu just went regular crazy. MD just says they have a limited supply of the stuff to run the thing, yeah
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Aug 18, 2016 01:05
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ImpAtom posted:The only reason the D guys are piloting at all is because they specifically need the system IIRC. They need the Sympathia in MD? What for?
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Aug 18, 2016 01:17
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GimmickMan posted:They need the Sympathia in MD? What for? It's one of the things that can deal with the Lamilice problem IIRC.
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Aug 18, 2016 01:30
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When do you get the Dracodeus's finisher?
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The third to last stage.
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Aug 18, 2016 02:21
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Boy that's exactly what I didn't want to hear.
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GimmickMan posted:They need the Sympathia in MD? What for? In OG its based on the Sytron system from the Fury. The Fury sealed the Cross Gate and built Fabula Fores.
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Aug 18, 2016 03:38
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Oh Snapple! posted:Boy that's exactly what I didn't want to hear. Don't worry, if this is a standard srw game those last few stages will feel like 30% of the game.
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Aug 18, 2016 03:51
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Ryoga posted:Don't worry, if this is a standard srw game those last few stages will feel like 30% of the game. Having just finished stage 42, I can tell you that this is 1000% accurate, jesus christ. On the good side - hey, I started using Maximum Breaks! That's a plus! On the bad side - I had to fail my first attempt at the stage with less than 100 HP on the boss to start doing so. 
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GimmickMan posted:Gilliam always stays silent on important matters and it is getting old. He could have helped make sense of issues like crossgates and Ehhh, he's going by that standard thing of not wanting to direct this world's future in that way by giving them stuff they don't discover for themselves because he's not a native and feels he doesn't have that right. Gilliam knows a lot, but I don't think he can see how everything will pan out 100% without using his special magic baby power (which he refuses to use because absolute power corrupts yada yada) so he doesn't go "destroy the Sympathia it's bad" when someone could very well come up with something to make it totally safe and be a boon for all of humanity. And as mentioned they did actually need the Sympathia to solve the ghosties so it's not like he was letting them do it for no reason at all. I think Gilliam's rule is he will fight and do what he can to help save the world as problems arise, but he won't use his power to predict the future and change any of the fates that lead to those problems. If a situation ever arises that he and the Steel Dragons can't deal with then que sera, sera.
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As I recall they don't actually need the Sympathia to fight the Lamalice, they just unsealed them thinking it might help. And then they just kept using them afterwards because it's not like you can just take units away from the player like that.
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So I've just finished playing through the 4 stage demo patch for A Portable, and drat this game is a lot more enjoyable in English, and I like what they did with Lamia's 'accent'. I'm really looking forward to the full release, which should hopefully be in the next year or so considering they've translated 41% of the game (though sadly it's unlikely we'll get a new demo patch that continues beyond the game's intro)
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The part that confused me is that Josh was very adamant that he'd be enough. It was Rim and Glacies that told him they were going to help. They just didn't seem to care about their fate! Kai just followed his dumb order (which had to be issued a second time iirc). He did very little persuading during that scene. Also re: sympathia events - they didn't ask for the sympathia mechs and the excellence mechs until the time stop attack on Troya. The ghosts come immediately afterwards. Rascyc fucked around with this message at 18:57 on Aug 18, 2016 |
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They care but they aren't going to sit around and let Josh/the world die when they can help, even if it sucks for them.
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Yeah, it kinda boils down to the fact that theyre good people that want to help.
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What kind of hero sits back and lets someone else do all the work?
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MarsDragon posted:What kind of hero sits back and lets someone else do all the work? Shine Hausen. 
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GilliamYaeger posted:So I've just finished playing through the 4 stage demo patch for A Portable, and drat this game is a lot more enjoyable in English, and I like what they did with Lamia's 'accent'. I'm really looking forward to the full release, which should hopefully be in the next year or so considering they've translated 41% of the game (though sadly it's unlikely we'll get a new demo patch that continues beyond the game's intro) Thanks, I'm glad to see you enjoyed it. I see you also liked that version of Lamia's accent; to tell you the truth, after that one I tried multiple different styles, and I haven't really quite grasped the best way to convey her speech quirk. Speaking of which, how does Moon Dweller deal with it? By the way, as a progress report, the first 12 (of 39) missions of the game (including splits) are complete, currently working on 13.
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I am so done with guardmechs turtling with Orgone Clouds.
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Caphi posted:I am so done with guardmechs turtling with Orgone Clouds. There are so many guys that defend or evade this game! I think in the whole of 2ndOG there was only one instance of enemies defending which was the Ruina intro with the weird dog ones forming a defensive ring around the base entrance. In Moon Dwellers there's been guys on every stage where the SR point is to kill everything if there's a special victory condition. At least the MP Huckebeins defend when attacked instead of trying to die using a 30% accuracy counter attack. TheMajinZenki posted:Speaking of which, how does Moon Dweller deal with it?y the way, as a progress report, the first 12 (of 39) missions of the game (including splits) are complete, currently working on 13. So far it's been random ALLCAPS in story scenes. I think the guy who did the english thing for 2ndOG did an alright job by doing stuff like "Roger dodger bo-bodger" and a couple of bits like Monica's weird syntax thing. Turns out that sort of thing is really difficult to do! Speaking of Lamia. 
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EthanSteele posted:There are so many guys that defend or evade this game! I think in the whole of 2ndOG there was only one instance of enemies defending which was the Ruina intro with the weird dog ones forming a defensive ring around the base entrance. In Moon Dwellers there's been guys on every stage where the SR point is to kill everything if there's a special victory condition. At least the MP Huckebeins defend when attacked instead of trying to die using a 30% accuracy counter attack. Didn't Gan-Eden's guards also defend? They know they're there to boost Divine Shield.
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EthanSteele posted:Speaking of Lamia. I don't know what I'm looking at but it terrifies me.
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Beach Dwellers is a terrifying thing.
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Caphi posted:Didn't Gan-Eden's guards also defend? They know they're there to boost Divine Shield. I remember the Bioroids doing it but not the Baral mooks. Then again, it's been a long while and I probably blew them all away with Shu's MAPW.
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BlitzBlast posted:Beach Dwellers is a terrifying thing.
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Samurai Sanders posted:Did it only ever come with the physical version of the game, or if I bought it digitially is there some way to download it that I don't understand? I don't know if I want to though... Only with the limited edition, I think.
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Ryoga posted:Don't worry, if this is a standard srw game those last few stages will feel like 30% of the game. there's a reason i always advocate finding the strongest MAP attack in your army and maxing out that person's upgrades and relevant damage stat 
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Prism posted:I don't know what I'm looking at but it terrifies me.
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Someone's uploaded Beach Dwellers and the Haken thing to youtube if you wanna see it. Now that you mention it I think the golem guys might have defended too. I just aced Arado and Seolla in MD and both of their aces require being in the same Twin to work which makes them actually pretty not-good aces because they are mondo suboptimal when twinned together. Putting them together for deployment and then splitting them is an option and probably worth the hassle for the +15 on Arado, but eh. Aces that require standing next to someone is fine because you should probably be doing it for relationship bonuses anyway, but asking you to twin a long range sniping character with the short range melee specialist fella is not so cool.
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EthanSteele posted:I just aced Arado and Seolla in MD and both of their aces require being in the same Twin to work which makes them actually pretty not-good aces because they are mondo suboptimal when twinned together. I'm legitimately a little bummed out when there's yet another game where Arado and Seolla, child prodigy super-soldier types, are pretty much forgettable and a chore to use. I like those two, why you gotta make me work so hard to make them feel good, game?
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ImpAtom posted:Shine Hausen. Was able to pilot the Fairlion just fine when she got taken to La Gias without Latooni.
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