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JoshVanValkenburg posted:What did DTAM get banned for? Making fun of pro graps? GIFs, SenorLARIATO got banned as well.
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WWE fired Joey Styles and hired a new company that loves to crank it to DMCA takedowns and they don't mind going full scorched-earth
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Mob posted:WWE fired Joey Styles and hired a new company that loves to crank it to DMCA takedowns and they don't mind going full scorched-earth They finally re-hired Mark Monitor from the old days where wrestling message boards were afraid to post YouTube clips
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Muddy Burphy posted:They finally re-hired Mark Monitor from the old days where wrestling message boards were afraid to post YouTube clips I was in junior high school when that was at its peak and let me tell you I felt cool and like a spy, when I found WWE vids on YouTube. "tell me, friend, do you where a virtuous man might find The Cheese Soufflé?"
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This is also where Bork Laser came from, right? They had to keep changing the names of videos around and that was the eventual result.
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I dont know how much longer i can live in a world without the good clips, but at least this software company has a quite an apt name. Now excuse me while hurt broke souffle SCMs cheese jackson
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Was the Mark Monitor thing also the reason why the e-fed scene crumbled so hard?
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Glad to see WWE going back to a strategy that works: loving the fans.
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How does banning people for posting gifs help wwe in anyway possible is what I want to know.
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The_Rob posted:How does banning people for posting gifs help wwe in anyway possible is what I want to know. Well you see, *soundtrack to Big Daddy V farts plays*
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The_Rob posted:How does banning people for posting gifs help wwe in anyway possible is what I want to know. Obviously if you DMCA everyone who posts WWE content people will stop using the internet and go back to watching television and bam, ratings are back, baby.
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BROCK LESBIAN posted:Well you see, *soundtrack to Big Daddy V farts plays* *sniffs-* Yes
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Aug 22, 2016 22:06
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If you don't protect every intellectual property you have, when you want to defend the ones you actually care about the defendant has the legal argument of "well they don't actually care about their intellectual property"
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Going after sites that post entire PPVs is different than going after fans for posting 30 frame, low quality clips on Twitter with humorous comments. WWE would never get a dime if they tried to sue for damages because fair use would be an easy case to make for these guys, and they could likely get free defense. Anyway gifs are simply a part of the culture now and you have to be anti-fans to even consider going after gif makers/posters.
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I'm not saying its right or even smart PR wise just that there's legal precedent for their legal team to take them down if that's what they're paid for
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It's funny how this coincides with that one gif maker asking for money on Patreon. Maybe WWE was OK with it until people started monetizing.
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Big Coffin Hunter posted:If you don't protect every intellectual property you have, when you want to defend the ones you actually care about the defendant has the legal argument of "well they don't actually care about their intellectual property" No they don't. Where did you go to law school?
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Yas African AIDS Cum, smash the gently caress out of him
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Big Coffin Hunter posted:If you don't protect every intellectual property you have, when you want to defend the ones you actually care about the defendant has the legal argument of "well they don't actually care about their intellectual property" That's pretty much a myth https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2013/11/trademark-law-does-not-require-companies-tirelessly-censor-internet
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As far as I know he's right about having to go after people loving with your IP, but I don't think that's the case here. There would be no way to go after everyone who posts GIFs, and they are just too easily defensible with fair use (that's a total guess, I don't actually know of any cases of people being sued over GIF posting). These types of petty take downs could possibly weaken their power over time, and could make it harder to go after real offenders. Or maybe that's just wishful thinking because gently caress WWE for doing this.
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The_Rob posted:How does banning people for posting gifs help wwe in anyway possible is what I want to know.
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achillesforever6 posted:Gets people to follow the twitter accounts owned by the WWE that post gifs of matches. The NFL and NHL do the same thing They don't post fun gifs though.
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achillesforever6 posted:Gets people to follow the twitter accounts owned by the WWE that post gifs of matches. The NFL and NHL do the same thing And I love that WWE constantly touts that they have more social media followers then those assholes.
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WrasslorMonkey posted:As far as I know he's right about having to go after people loving with your IP, but I don't think that's the case here. There would be no way to go after everyone who posts GIFs, and they are just too easily defensible with fair use (that's a total guess, I don't actually know of any cases of people being sued over GIF posting). UFC has gone after gifs as well. It'd be a hard sell that it is actually fair use too.
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Big Bidness posted:That's pretty much a myth
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MassRafTer posted:UFC has gone after gifs as well. It'd be a hard sell that it is actually fair use too. In fairness, the UFC is an Actual Sport where the finishes are the most important part of the show. It's tough to substitute an entire wrestling PPV with gifs.
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MassRafTer posted:UFC has gone after gifs as well. It'd be a hard sell that it is actually fair use too. So they actually sued for damages?
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Well the NFL does a similar thing, where they will take down gifs. The work around for it is that if you add humorous text to the gif then it is fair use. That's at least what I've been told when I ask why all of the NFL gifs have stupid memes on them from kissingsuzykobler. So the gif makers should just add text mocking the WWE and then, bam, they are fair use.
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Scott Justice posted:The work around for it is that if you add humorous text to the gif then it is fair use. That's at least what I've been told when I ask why all of the NFL gifs have stupid memes on them from kissingsuzykobler. So the gif makers should just add text mocking the WWE and then, bam, they are fair use. Using clips can be defended under fair use, I guess putting text on gifs is even fairer use https://gfycat.com/PoorPowerfulAmericanalligator https://fat.gfycat.com/PoorPowerfulAmericanalligator.webm
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WrasslorMonkey posted:And I love that WWE constantly touts that they have more social media followers then those assholes. heh, "touts"
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So Jericho has now stood up to both Lesnar and Goldberg.....he has to have serious respect in the locker room now, yes?
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WrasslorMonkey posted:So they actually sued for damages? Sorry, they sent takedowns and cease and desists. I'm pretty sure they've only sued (and won) for people streaming PPVs.
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Scott Justice posted:Well the NFL does a similar thing, where they will take down gifs. The work around for it is that if you add humorous text to the gif then it is fair use. That's at least what I've been told when I ask why all of the NFL gifs have stupid memes on them from kissingsuzykobler. So the gif makers should just add text mocking the WWE and then, bam, they are fair use. Might just be that altering the gif to add words avoids whatever software they use to identify the copyrighted material.
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It's still lovely that the takedowns happened, but if it ends with them telling their new company to back off on that poo poo, then it's no big deal long term. This stuff usually just happens due to miscommunications. The adding text to a thing probably does help evade automated filters, but it does strengthen fair use under parody. But it's not like there's a line where it becomes infringement or fair use, that would be determined by a judge if it was ever brought to case.
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DeathChicken posted:This is also where Bork Laser came from, right? They had to keep changing the names of videos around and that was the eventual result. Bork Laser, Crispin Wah, Marzipan Henry/Moark Hamry, Cheese Jackson, Hairy Train, Fatt Lardy, Jahn Ceenu etc.
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El Gallinero Gros posted:So Jericho has now stood up to both Lesnar and Goldberg.....he has to have serious respect in the locker room now, yes? judging by the amount of people on his podcast in general plus his uber veteran status, I'd say he's accrued all the respect he needs anyway but being ready to loving fight Lesnar is an entirely new world of "best dad ever"
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