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Played this game for two years give or take and then stopped because of all the gross grind. How hard is it to grind for prime stuff with the new system? Although I'm dreading having to collect all the stuff I missed from the past month, I need a game to make sure I'm not productive 24/7, and overwatch is getting boring now.
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Halser posted:Played this game for two years give or take and then stopped because of all the gross grind. When the new system was first introduced it wasn't so bad, cause they directly converted everyone's keys into relics. Even slightly easier to get stuff cause you could increase the drop chance of each relic and choose between 4 things at the end of the mission. NOW though, they "retired" old relics and you have to farm entirely new relics for every piece of new prime gear that you want, so you end up doing the rear end-pain-double-farm that Warframe is so famous for. At the very least you can still share relics though.
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Aug 24, 2016 18:51
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That really depends on what you want. Rares can take a while and poo poo on neo relics even longer but it's all very doable. When you can run a full group full of the one radiant you want the thing from chances are good you'll get it in three tries or less, usually when I do these it takes two. That still means you're grinding and hoping that exact relic will drop, you're grinding void for poo poo to make relics radiant although that's all ducat fodder so not too terrible and you'll be grinding materials, which to be fair is mostly not too outlandish. The new system certainly isn't terrible but it kind of shifts the actual be in the void for an hour at a time and stand around with a Mesa and a Limbo doing all the things to where everybody has to farm the exact relics but the actual part of using the relic and getting parts is more convenient since you can easily pug it and complete a mission for a roll inside of five minutes so it's easy to do at your own pace. Once you have the relics.
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Aug 24, 2016 18:54
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Halser posted:stopped because of all the gross grind To have a sane game experience, getting things should be a side effect of shooting grineer and corpus, not the reason for doing so. Although Morglon has a good point. It's much more viable to get things even with shorter missions all over the solar system now, instead of being stuck in 40 minute void defenses.
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Aug 24, 2016 18:58
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Thanks for the answers. I guess I'll stick to replaying some old games then, doesn't sound like things have changed in any meaningful way.
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Aug 24, 2016 19:13
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Hey at least Nekros Prime crafting requirements aren't so bad. Only 5 Nitain and a bunch of stuff you can get from extractors and probably have a ton of already.
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Aug 24, 2016 19:50
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Malachite_Dragon posted:The Jordas Verdict Raid loving sucks and the stupid-rear end 6DOF camera makes it suck even harder and that one goon who actually likes the new camera is a jerk. i could never be inside crew
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Aug 24, 2016 19:52
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Halser posted:Thanks for the answers. I guess I'll stick to replaying some old games then, doesn't sound like things have changed in any meaningful way. I'm new so I really enjoy the movement and such, reminds me of quake 3 and team fortress classic. I don't really care about being an indestructible sparkle pony yet.
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Aug 24, 2016 21:53
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Azran posted:steamcommunity.com/id/Azran/ Friend invite sent. But will this work on PS4?
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Aug 24, 2016 21:54
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Gumbel2Gumbel posted:I'm new so I really enjoy the movement and such, reminds me of quake 3 and team fortress classic. I don't really care about being an indestructible sparkle pony yet. Outside of jokes I'm not a person that would say "NEVER PLAY THIS GAME EVER". The beginning is legit fun. It's just that progress is dead slow once you start looking for specific stuff. Also the Trinity nerf left a really sore taste in my mouth. I'll miss you, lobster lady.
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Aug 24, 2016 21:57
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Halser posted:Outside of jokes I'm not a person that would say "NEVER PLAY THIS GAME EVER". The beginning is legit fun. It's just that progress is dead slow once you start looking for specific stuff. The gameplay's super fun It's all the stuff that isn't gameplay that sucks
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Aug 24, 2016 22:09
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Moatman posted:The gameplay's super fun I'd say the gameplay isn't so much fun when you're standing in one spot for literally 5 hours and enemies are level 9957 and the host starts lagging and threatening to DC, but aside from that I'd agree.
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Aug 24, 2016 22:12
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Halser posted:I'd say the gameplay isn't so much fun when you're standing in one spot for literally 5 hours and enemies are level 9957 and the host starts lagging and threatening to DC, but aside from that I'd agree. I've got well over 1000 hours in this stupid game and I can't imagine a single reason to do any part of that.
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Aug 24, 2016 22:19
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aegof posted:I've got well over 1000 hours in this stupid game and I can't imagine a single reason to do any part of that. Winning events, which is barely a reason, I admit. It's one thing I definitely don't miss.
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Aug 24, 2016 22:23
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I avoid defenses and survivals anymore and I'm rarely hurting for cool stuff. I'll probably have to do some ODD or whatever for the new relics, but I can work on some new frames and bullshit with some friends because ODD is chill as hell if you know what you're doing. Just gently caress around for 20 minutes, get some loot and a stack of affinity, get out. Doing the crazy-long survivals or high-wave defenses is fun occasionally, but I feel like sorties are good enough for feeling like a hardass. Oh god, yeah, the old events. I almost forgot about those. I still wear my that one glowy sigil on some frames.
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Aug 24, 2016 22:26
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I'm building a Rhino and I just kept a bunch of people alive as Oberon in a nightmare alert with no shields. Got my first Shred out of it though! I mean, Frost may have helped a bit but it was nice to have a team contribution that wasn't just a ton of kick punching and pulls as Mag. Actually, would I be able to restore shields in a Nightmare alert as Mag or are they just completely disabled?
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Aug 24, 2016 22:57
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I've found peak Bad Opinions: https://forums.warframe.com/topic/691501-so-when-are-nullifiers-going-to-be-removed/?do=findComment&comment=7716569 Check out all his replies in there.
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Aug 24, 2016 23:02
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This week in dumb gimmicks https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IKfU8hn8qQc
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Aug 24, 2016 23:39
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Colour Pack Alpha is on sale today, so if you want to begin your descent into the true endgame of Fashion Frame, now's your chance. 
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SperginMcBadposter posted:I've found peak Bad Opinions: Relieved that's not my college blog
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Aug 25, 2016 00:05
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SperginMcBadposter posted:I've found peak Bad Opinions: Oh you've learned of Mak_Gohae? Yeah, he's... a character. Like, I don't know how he hasn't outed himself as a troll yet because you have to be incredibly special to consistently hold the opinions he does unironically.
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If someone was interested in tagging along for goon Sorties, and wanted to be useful, or at least not a drag on the team, what should they have ready to bring along in terms of gear, weapons, frames, etc.? I'm mastery rank 14 but I sort of skipped everything between Cryotic Front and Starchart 3.0, so I have plenty of resources, just not a lot of the new stuff. Also I haven't been doing many of the quests, I'm only done with Archwing.
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Aug 25, 2016 01:09
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Anyone know an okay low level spot for neurodes? I've used all mine up on war frames and weapons and need to finish my first archwing
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Aug 25, 2016 01:15
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Well, I just broke 1700 combo in a Nightmare Survival. Bullet Dance is pretty busted on the Redeemer and it's amazing.
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Gumbel2Gumbel posted:Anyone know an okay low level spot for neurodes? I've used all mine up on war frames and weapons and need to finish my first archwing Earth is the place for Neurodes, you probably want to do the excavation for enemy density. Getting neurodes will, however, remain a perpetual pain in the rear end.
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Tulip posted:Earth is the place for Neurodes, you probably want to do the excavation for enemy density. Getting neurodes will, however, remain a perpetual pain in the rear end. I would probably hack the game for neurodes, Plastids, and neural systems or w/e they're called. I can also get into the two top branches of the void, but I tend to just get argon crystals and control modules out of that.
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ElegantFugue posted:If someone was interested in tagging along for goon Sorties, and wanted to be useful, or at least not a drag on the team, what should they have ready to bring along in terms of gear, weapons, frames, etc.? I'm mastery rank 14 but I sort of skipped everything between Cryotic Front and Starchart 3.0, so I have plenty of resources, just not a lot of the new stuff. Also I haven't been doing many of the quests, I'm only done with Archwing. If you can max efficiency, Nyx and Frost can help keep your team safeish long enough to kill things regardless of your own lovely weapons. Their 3s are cheap enough that you can toss them out regularly even in an energy penalty mission. Bring the biggest Energy restore you've got, and maybe a couple spectres/clems to draw a little fire. If you don't have Fleeting Expertise yet, make getting a copy or two a very high priority.
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Halser posted:I'd say the gameplay isn't so much fun when you're standing in one spot for literally 5 hours and enemies are level 9957 and the host starts lagging and threatening to DC, but aside from that I'd agree. Draco is dead.
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Tulip posted:Earth is the place for Neurodes, you probably want to do the excavation for enemy density. Getting neurodes will, however, remain a perpetual pain in the rear end. Gumbel2Gumbel posted:I would probably hack the game for neurodes, Plastids, and neural systems or w/e they're called. I can also get into the two top branches of the void, but I tend to just get argon crystals and control modules out of that.
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aegof posted:If you can max efficiency, Nyx and Frost can help keep your team safeish long enough to kill things regardless of your own lovely weapons. Their 3s are cheap enough that you can toss them out regularly even in an energy penalty mission. I do have Fleeting Expertise- the only corrupted frame mod I'm missing is Transient Fortitude- and use it for several frames, including a Mag Prime build that spams Shield Polarize near-constantly. I've got a Soma Prime with a forma or two and a rank 8-9 Serration in it. I don't really have any Primed mods, but I've got a few up to rank 7-9. Am I probably reasonably equipped to be useful on Sorties already and just didn't realize it?
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ElegantFugue posted:If someone was interested in tagging along for goon Sorties, and wanted to be useful, or at least not a drag on the team, what should they have ready to bring along in terms of gear, weapons, frames, etc.? I'm mastery rank 14 but I sort of skipped everything between Cryotic Front and Starchart 3.0, so I have plenty of resources, just not a lot of the new stuff. Also I haven't been doing many of the quests, I'm only done with Archwing. Once you have more experience with the sorties and more of the newer gear you can probably figure out what else will work for you on your own.
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In regards to the rare resource farming (Neurodes, Orokin Cells, Argon Crystals... Control Mod- I'm just kidding with the last one) Smeeta kavats are hella good. They have two farming buffs, one that just straight up gives you 3-6 instances of whatever rare resource there is on the planet. The other doubles pickups and affinity gain. So I guess my tip is to buy a ton of scanners and get ready to camp Derelicts?
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I'm still not entirely sure smeeta kavats exist
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Mine was the first decent looking space cat I got. The two I had before looked like they've ran into a wall. Several times.
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Gumbel2Gumbel posted:Friend invite sent. But will this work on PS4? Oh, you are in PS4. Nope, PC only 
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Mithaldu posted:Neurodes are only a pain in the rear end at lower levels. Earth defense is really your only good option. There's a fairly high level planet you get access to after the Second Dream quest (beware spoilers) which has a defense that quite reliably spits out 2-4 neurodes in a 15 minute run, which you can double with a boost if you really need some neurodes *right now*, but i recommend toughing it out til then. I still found them to be kind of the biggest pain in the rear end other than tellurium, but I'm sitting on 120 of them thanks to the last double weekend. Of course, smeetas have made farming for anything other than tellurium a lot easier.
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Xarbala posted:I'm still not entirely sure smeeta kavats exist Malachite_Dragon posted:In wholly unrelated news:  Relin posted:does amesha's 1 block the shield damage from bonking into walls I'm not sure if this got answered, but I don't know! I know Amesha's 1 blocks all the damage from Jordas' big gently caress-off laser if you're Outside Crew  I'm never finding out, either, because I'm never doing the Jordas Verdict raid ever again.
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Aug 25, 2016 05:18
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I'm glad they realized raids suck.
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Yes, it does block the damage.Denzine posted:I'm glad they realized raids suck. I'm actually kinda sad cause JV showed genuine improvements over LoR. It actually used new mechanics instead of aping old school RAID CONTENT poo poo. Sure not all of it worked (catastrophically so for part 3), but I appreciate the ambition. I'm genuinely interested in seeing another RAID CONTENT mission. There still needs to be a Corpus one and an Orokin one where we go into VR to fight the Neural Sentry.
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Man it's weird to see things be completely immune to my Ignis. I just got raided by a squad of Arbiters and I actually had to use my Galatine. Back in my day, Blast Damage was enough for anything. Is there anything that's worth a ton of platinum and easy to fence that I might have from Ye Olden Days?
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