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Breetai posted:Clean privilege is never being turned down for oral sex because you haven’t washed away the protective, lubricative, natural oils beneath your foreskin that are supposed to facilitate sex in the first place (smegma). What's your favorite Silent Hill game? Moon Atari posted:also apologies to anyone whose feelings I may have hurt at any point in the thread with an offhand comment that was accidentally offensive to their uncommon but perfectly ok lifestyle choices. I'm going to loving beat you up! 
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For a while my photograph with me and a tiger, but then everybody's opening with hey what's with the tiger, and I just got tired of it .
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Aug 27, 2016 18:38
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i love when people match on Tinder then proceed to go 'You're on Tinder YOU MUST BE A SLUT' wot
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Pick posted:For a while my photograph with me and a tiger, but then everybody's opening with hey what's with the tiger, and I just got tired of it . You should have replied "It's because I'MMMM GREEEAAATTTT!" Years ago I had a really cool picture of me sitting on a trail behind a big coiled and rattling diamondback we found while hiking as my facebook picture, but I caved and took it off after a couple weeks of randoms leaving comments on the picture asking if I liked big/fat/long snakes and then my new-to-facebook mom seeing the comments without knowing that not everyone blocks all people they don't know and continually asking why I have friends who talk to me like that.
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Aug 27, 2016 18:49
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Pick posted:There are many deformities that can't be "fixed" and the attitude that they need to be "fixed" contributes to the poor self-image that leads to people closing off and not developing the skills they need. One of my best friends is an amputee and she's just going to have to be an amputee. But she still puts herself out there a lot better than most people I know. I was thinking along the line of facial injuries / abnormalities. I had an injury as a kid which involved bone fractures, and the after effects only became worse over the years as I grew. Eventually I had it corrected surgically and it took my appearance to at least where the problem didn't stick out like a sore thumb and dominate my face. Some people might be able to rock an injury and own it, but I didn't have the confidence to do so, that's for sure. So that's why I say if something like that is holding a person back, and it's possible for it to be improved, it's worth saving up the money. At least it was for me.
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Aug 27, 2016 19:15
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Moridin920 posted:i love when people match on Tinder then proceed to go 'You're on Tinder YOU MUST BE A SLUT' I love when I do all the footwork and the 6 decides to ghost.
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Aug 27, 2016 19:16
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Pick posted:There are many deformities that can't be "fixed" and the attitude that they need to be "fixed" contributes to the poor self-image that leads to people closing off and not developing the skills they need. One of my best friends is an amputee and she's just going to have to be an amputee. But she still puts herself out there a lot better than most people I know. I think if she gets a robot arm one day that is indistinguishable from a regular arm that's good and cool though. I mean she shouldn't be treated like a leper obv but there's a difference between 'oh I think my nose is too big I better get surgery for it' and corrective surgery and stuff like that.
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Aug 27, 2016 19:20
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Amputee has to be the most commonly fetishised of disabilities and while many people seem offended at the idea of people having a fetish for them I've never seen how someone being specifically aroused by people who look like you is a bad thing or at all incompatible with them also wanting a meaningful relationship with you.
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Aug 27, 2016 19:25
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Moon Atari posted:Amputee has to be the most commonly fetishised of disabilities and while many people seem offended at the idea of people having a fetish for them I've never seen how someone being specifically aroused by people who look like you is a bad thing or at all incompatible with them also wanting a meaningful relationship with you. nice objectification, bigot
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Aug 27, 2016 19:32
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Moon Atari posted:Amputee has to be the most commonly fetishised of disabilities and while many people seem offended at the idea of people having a fetish for them I've never seen how someone being specifically aroused by people who look like you is a bad thing or at all incompatible with them also wanting a meaningful relationship with you.  you little devil you.
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Pick posted:For a while my photograph with me and a tiger, but then everybody's opening with hey what's with the tiger, and I just got tired of it . If I had a Tinder I could probably use the picture that the post-doc I was working for took of me sitting in a field with the curious wild horse sniffing the dried mango on my lips and get messages from horse girls like crazy
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Mak0rz posted:If I had a Tinder I could probably use the picture that the post-doc I was working for took of me sitting in a field with the curious wild horse sniffing the dried mango on my lips and get messages from horse girls like crazy "is dat ur girlfriend"
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Ratjaculation posted:"is dat ur girlfriend" She let me collect her poop so I could check it for eggs and swab it for DNA, all without even having to take her to dinner first
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Aug 27, 2016 19:56
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Mak0rz posted:If I had a Tinder I could probably use the picture that the post-doc I was working for took of me sitting in a field with the curious wild horse sniffing the dried mango on my lips and get messages from horse girls like crazy oh man you would get SO many hits i cannot even tell you man
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Aug 27, 2016 20:29
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Moon Atari posted:Amputee has to be the most commonly fetishised of disabilities and while many people seem offended at the idea of people having a fetish for them I've never seen how someone being specifically aroused by people who look like you is a bad thing or at all incompatible with them also wanting a meaningful relationship with you. If it were only an aesthetic matter that would be one thing, but her amputation still introduces a lot of pain and limitations to her life. I lived with her for a short while to get out of a bad rental situation, and she crawls around her home most of the time because her prosthetic is uncomfortable and the more she uses it, the more it hurts. (Obviously it's a leg amputation, not an arm.) Personally, I have joint and circulation problems with their own baggage, and though I'm happy to show off a few "tricks" (like the toe gap around the beer bottle) they're sprinkles on a poo poo cupcake. You can't blame someone for having a fetish for a certain appearance, but it needs to be tempered by genuine empathy. I am not convinced that disability porn gives anyone anything but the "taboo" rush and that is unacceptably superficial for something that causes someone physical pain and often social ramifications as well.
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Aug 27, 2016 20:39
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Moridin920 posted:I think if she gets a robot arm one day that is indistinguishable from a regular arm that's good and cool though. I mean she shouldn't be treated like a leper obv but there's a difference between 'oh I think my nose is too big I better get surgery for it' and corrective surgery and stuff like that. I'm not sure there's nearly as much of a difference as people like to believe.
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Aug 27, 2016 20:40
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Pick posted:For a while my photograph with me and a tiger, but then everybody's opening with hey what's with the tiger, and I just got tired of it . You had the perfect opportunity to say "I got tigered of it" and completely dropped the ball.
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Aug 27, 2016 20:50
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Pick posted:If it were only an aesthetic matter that would be one thing, but her amputation still introduces a lot of pain and limitations to her life. I lived with her for a short while to get out of a bad rental situation, and she crawls around her home most of the time because her prosthetic is uncomfortable and the more she uses it, the more it hurts. (Obviously it's a leg amputation, not an arm.) Personally, I have joint and circulation problems with their own baggage, and though I'm happy to show off a few "tricks" (like the toe gap around the beer bottle) they're sprinkles on a poo poo cupcake. You can't blame someone for having a fetish for a certain appearance, but it needs to be tempered by genuine empathy. I am not convinced that disability porn gives anyone anything but the "taboo" rush and that is unacceptably superficial for something that causes someone physical pain and often social ramifications as well. I guess so, but I wouldn't rule out people being capable of having both a fetish and being compassionate. I mean, I will tolerate a lot of things to be with someone I'm attracted to, and support them even if doing so is a burden that is unrelated to the things that turn me on about them. I think someone with a fetish for a disability is more likely to not consider the less fun parts a deal breaker than someone who doesn't, especially given that the supply of their desired partner is so limited that they have to put up with more than other people will. Also even in nonfetishistic circumstances many men like the opportunity to support a woman. My mum has had crippling arthritis from a young age, and I'm pretty sure the men she dates love being able to care for her when she has a flare up. I know market analogies are frowned upon, but pursuing a niche strategy works perfectly well for businesses, especially since the internet has made it easier for consumers to find their product. That people develop fetishes for people outside the normal definition of beauty seems like a gift for the fetishised. Fewer people are attracted to them, but the ones who are happen to be very attracted to them, as if they were given the same share of boners caused as everyone else, it was just divvied up amongst a smaller group of penises.
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Moon Atari posted:I guess so, but I wouldn't rule out people being capable of having both a fetish and being compassionate. I mean, I will tolerate a lot of things to be with someone I'm attracted to, and support them even if doing so is a burden that is unrelated to the things that turn me on about them. I think someone with a fetish for a disability is more likely to not consider the less fun parts a deal breaker than someone who doesn't, especially given that the supply of their desired partner is so limited that they have to put up with more than other people will. Also even in nonfetishistic circumstances many men like the opportunity to support a woman. My mum has had crippling arthritis from a young age, and I'm pretty sure the men she dates love being able to care for her when she has a flare up. I want you to read though this and genuinely try to think about it from the point of view of someone who has never been able to sleep in a normal bed.
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Btw I actually have the opposite of an amputee fetish. I like women with more limbs than normal. Like, waaaaaay more. I was very disappointed when The Human Centipede turned out to be appealing to a different fetish, as if scat fetishists aren't already catered to enough.
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Moon Atari posted:Btw I actually have the opposite of an amputee fetish. I like women with more limbs than normal. Like, waaaaaay more. I was very disappointed when The Human Centipede turned out to be appealing to a different fetish, as if scat fetishists aren't already catered to enough. cmon dude
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Pick posted:I'm not sure there's nearly as much of a difference as people like to believe. There is a huge difference between medically necessary corrective surgery and cosmetic surgery. Reconstructive surgery after a mastectomy due to cancer isn't the same thing as 'I want bigger tits'.
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Li Dawny posted:There is a huge difference between medically necessary corrective surgery and cosmetic surgery. Reconstructive surgery after a mastectomy due to cancer isn't the same thing as 'I want bigger tits'. But poo poo they could throw in some tits on special though at least. Like make 2fer coupons or something. 
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Moon Atari posted:Btw I actually have the opposite of an amputee fetish. I like women with more limbs than normal. Like, waaaaaay more. I was very disappointed when The Human Centipede turned out to be appealing to a different fetish, as if scat fetishists aren't already catered to enough. Have you heard the good word about our lady Kali?
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Pick posted:I want you to read though this and genuinely try to think about it from the point of view of someone who has never been able to sleep in a normal bed. I'm thinking it's a similar feeling to the guys who disagree when told that there is no undatably ugly or that they don't have to be a jock to find a partner. There isn't any lack of compassion for the experience of living with a disability there, just a disagreement that the burden has to extend to being denied genuine love even by the limited people who find their aesthetic appealing, although I agree it is harder to find and that sucks. Last night I was posting from a disco for disabled people that I volunteer at every second week. I specialise in intellectual disability so definitely aren't attracted to my clients, but I do enjoy caring for people and I have plenty of other male coworkers who feel similarly. There are definitely men who wouldn't mind and might even specifically enjoy being able to care for a romantic partner even if they are significantly disabled. I don't feel it is compassionate to tell someone with a disability that poo poo just hopelessly sucks for them. I've also seen people imply that anyone with a fetish for them must be a disgusting weirdo, which seems like a crueler thing to say to the fetishised than the fetishee.
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Moon Atari posted:Btw I actually have the opposite of an amputee fetish. I like women with more limbs than normal. Like, waaaaaay more. I was very disappointed when The Human Centipede turned out to be appealing to a different fetish, as if scat fetishists aren't already catered to enough. here you go buddy  
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Moon Atari posted:I guess so, but I wouldn't rule out people being capable of having both a fetish and being compassionate. I mean, I will tolerate a lot of things to be with someone I'm attracted to, and support them even if doing so is a burden that is unrelated to the things that turn me on about them. I think someone with a fetish for a disability is more likely to not consider the less fun parts a deal breaker than someone who doesn't, especially given that the supply of their desired partner is so limited that they have to put up with more than other people will. Also even in nonfetishistic circumstances many men like the opportunity to support a woman. My mum has had crippling arthritis from a young age, and I'm pretty sure the men she dates love being able to care for her when she has a flare up. Jesus Christ dude
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Li Dawny posted:There is a huge difference between medically necessary corrective surgery and cosmetic surgery. Reconstructive surgery after a mastectomy due to cancer isn't the same thing as 'I want bigger tits'. There's still the underlying idea that the way that the person naturally (or, as a function of medical necessity) looks is "wrong" because it doesn't conform to a very precise uniform standard. Because of the way that women are treated when they lose their breasts, it's often important to their quality of life to have fake breasts inserted, but such pressures are the same pressures who drive women with extremely small natural breasts to get fake breasts. In either case, the reason to surgically affect their appearance is aesthetics (fake breasts don't make milk so they can't do functional breast things, and in fact cosmetic surgery can make breasts less functional as breasts.) The terminology that we use disguises the fact that the rationale is always to make people's appearance "socially acceptable" when it should be socially acceptable to appear however you are. If it's merely a matter of "self-image" then cosmetic surgery is just as justified, since that's what it's for also, to make the appearance match an internal perception of the self. I strongly recommend "Saving Face: Disfigurement and the Politics of Appearance" which discusses how there's a lot of internal inconsistency in the changes we allow people to affect upon themselves. For example, why cosmetic breast enhancement is seen as trashy, but braces are practically mandatory for high-income persons (at least in the United States).
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Moon Atari posted:There are definitely men who wouldn't mind and might even specifically enjoy being able to care for a romantic partner even if they are significantly disabled. listen to yourself, you're not saying what you think you are
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I dunno if I can handle niceguy.png and goons.txt at the same time
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Moon Atari posted:I don't feel it is compassionate to tell someone with a disability that poo poo just hopelessly sucks for them. I've also seen people imply that anyone with a fetish for them must be a disgusting weirdo, which seems like a crueler thing to say to the fetishised than the fetishee. You argued that amputee fetishists are good for amputees lmao.
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Pick posted:listen to yourself, you're not saying what you think you are Tell me what I'm saying? I'm feeling pretty good about it.
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moon atari are you making analogies with your amputee comments that i am missing
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Pick posted:There's still the underlying idea that the way that the person naturally (or, as a function of medical necessity) looks is "wrong" because it doesn't conform to a very precise uniform standard. Because of the way that women are treated when they lose their breasts, it's often important to their quality of life to have fake breasts inserted, but such pressures are the same pressures who drive women with extremely small natural breasts to get fake breasts. In either case, the reason to surgically affect their appearance is aesthetics (fake breasts don't make milk so they can't do functional breast things, and in fact cosmetic surgery can make breasts less functional as breasts.) The terminology that we use disguises the fact that the rationale is always to make people's appearance "socially acceptable" when it should be socially acceptable to appear however you are. If it's merely a matter of "self-image" then cosmetic surgery is just as justified, since that's what it's for also, to make the appearance match an internal perception of the self. I strongly recommend "Saving Face: Disfigurement and the Politics of Appearance" which discusses how there's a lot of internal inconsistency in the changes we allow people to affect upon themselves. For example, why cosmetic breast enhancement is seen as trashy, but braces are practically mandatory for high-income persons (at least in the United States). I get what you're meaning, and this kinda piggy backs onto the whole 'societal pressure' thing, but finding clothing for a post-mastectomy non reconstructed woman is fairly difficult. I mean, men's clothing is an option, but for something like a wedding or an actual formal event?
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amputees are gross but i will fight to the death for their right to be amputees
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Moon Atari posted:Tell me what I'm saying? I'm feeling pretty good about it. You pissed off the hivemind. You die today.
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Mak0rz posted:Jesus Christ dude Seriously. People with challenges, who are frail or blind or in pain, aren't "lucky" because someone likes the idea of a little housepet they can coddle and gently caress. They want to be adults and live fulfilling human lives on their own terms. People like you are the same kind of people who wistfully dream about being women, who can be cherished and babied and etc., and you don't get that our lives aren't actually like that, and we don't want them to be that way.
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"Being married to a woman without legs has some challenges, but they are worth it because whenever I think about how she lost get legs and about her struggles as an amputee living in this world catered to people that can walk I get rock hard and want to gently caress her senseless. She's so lucky to have me. I'm a compassionate person."
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Pick posted:Seriously. bigot
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Mak0rz posted:You argued that amputee fetishists are good for amputees lmao. No he didn't you loving idiot, he's saying having a physical deformity shouldn't be treated or talked about like an aesthetics death sentence. You might personally find it creepy but you're also not in the position of being an amputee and people have different wants and emotional needs. He's saying that you're more likely to have a successful relationship if someone is physically attracted to you, which is true of all people, and we all are more attracted to certain features than others. Simply having a fetish doesn't preclude having an emotionally fulfilling relationship (see: couples who are into S&M stuff, which is arguably a lot more destructive than someone getting a boner for a girl missing her leg, assuming he doesn't then cut off the other one)
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