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Necc0: Jun 30, 2005; by exmarx; Broken Cake

I wouldn't at all be surprised if they're constantly trying to pressure them into making subpar models still. Hell is be surprised if they weren't

# ? Aug 28, 2016 05:56

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# ? Apr 25, 2024 23:41

InterceptorV8: Mar 9, 2004; Loaded up and trucking.We gonna do what they say cant be done.

Slanderer posted:

Uhhh, the comparable scenario there is certain console bundle SKUs only being sold at a certain retailer (such as walmart).

The thing being discussed is stuff like DVD players, where Walmart might get a unique model with a different SKU and less features, in order to meet the Walmart price point. This kind of product all comes from overseas, so unless you drive "ocean trucks" (technical term) you don't know poo poo about it you loving moron

You are stupid, I brought that up a long loving time ago. These loving idiots don't understand that and think that everything matches and there is no way to tell them apart. R->C->P.

Also I deal/dealt with "ocean trucks" So unless you want to be stuffed in a can full poo poo headed to loving Tokyo on the Ever Chivary you'll stop being stupid too.

# ? Aug 28, 2016 05:56

Slanderer: May 6, 2007

InterceptorV8 posted:

You are stupid, I brought that up a long loving time ago. These loving idiots don't understand that and think that everything matches and there is no way to tell them apart. R->C->P.

Literally no one thinks this except you.

InterceptorV8 posted:

Also I deal/dealt with "ocean trucks" So unless you want to be stuffed in a can full poo poo headed to loving Tokyo on the Ever Chivary you'll stop being stupid too.

Please take less pills. Or more. I am not a doctor.

# ? Aug 28, 2016 05:58

Gamer With Dignity: May 15, 2016; by Nyc_Tattoo

InterceptorV8 posted:

You are stupid, I brought that up a long loving time ago. These loving idiots don't understand that and think that everything matches and there is no way to tell them apart. R->C->P.

Also I deal/dealt with "ocean trucks" So unless you want to be stuffed in a can full poo poo headed to loving Tokyo on the Ever Chivary you'll stop being stupid too.

Lay off the meth.

# ? Aug 28, 2016 05:58

InterceptorV8: Mar 9, 2004; Loaded up and trucking.We gonna do what they say cant be done.

Slanderer posted:

Literally no one thinks this except you.

Please take less pills. Or more. I am not a doctor.

I will hunt you down and deport you.

# ? Aug 28, 2016 06:00

Neurion: Jun 3, 2013; The musical fruit
The more you eat
The more you hoot

BOY I SURE DO LOVE THIS SLAPFIGHT

Here's a bunch of poo poo that's going down the drain: rando stores that open up in the cursed lots in the mall. Nothing has stayed more than 3 months in several of these lots, and half the stores on my side are gone.

# ? Aug 28, 2016 06:02

Slanderer: May 6, 2007

Neurion posted:

BOY I SURE DO LOVE THIS SLAPFIGHT

Here's a bunch of poo poo that's going down the drain: rando stores that open up in the cursed lots in the mall. Nothing has stayed more than 3 months in several of these lots, and half the stores on my side are gone.

How many are Vapist Depots?

# ? Aug 28, 2016 06:03

Nonsense: Jan 26, 2007

absolute rekt

# ? Aug 28, 2016 06:04

InterceptorV8: Mar 9, 2004; Loaded up and trucking.We gonna do what they say cant be done.

Neurion posted:

BOY I SURE DO LOVE THIS SLAPFIGHT

Here's a bunch of poo poo that's going down the drain: rando stores that open up in the cursed lots in the mall. Nothing has stayed more than 3 months in several of these lots, and half the stores on my side are gone.

Have they tried to move in one of those loving Goodwill Expresses yet? That's when you know poo poo has gone wrong.

# ? Aug 28, 2016 06:04

Gamer With Dignity: May 15, 2016; by Nyc_Tattoo

You had a meltdown about Walmart lmao

# ? Aug 28, 2016 06:06

InterceptorV8: Mar 9, 2004; Loaded up and trucking.We gonna do what they say cant be done.

Gamer With Dignity posted:

You had a meltdown about Walmart lmao

You paid $15 to join SA in 2016.

That's even worse

# ? Aug 28, 2016 06:07

Gamer With Dignity: May 15, 2016; by Nyc_Tattoo

InterceptorV8 posted:

You paid $15 to join SA in 2016.

That's even worse

No it isn't.

# ? Aug 28, 2016 06:10

PCOS Bill: May 12, 2013; by FactsAreUseless

Gamer With Dignity posted:

No it isn't.

It's

# ? Aug 28, 2016 06:13

InterceptorV8: Mar 9, 2004; Loaded up and trucking.We gonna do what they say cant be done.

Gamer With Dignity posted:

No it isn't.

# ? Aug 28, 2016 06:13

Necc0: Jun 30, 2005; by exmarx; Broken Cake

How would he have been able to point out your inability to comprehend product lines if he hadnt though?

# ? Aug 28, 2016 06:18

Burt Sexual: Jan 26, 2006; by Jeffrey of YOSPOS; Switchblade Switcharoo

Skipping 7 pages to ask if this is about Walmart?

# ? Aug 28, 2016 06:20

Genderfluent: Jul 15, 2015

Like all good threads, this one has died by shitposts

# ? Aug 28, 2016 06:21

Fat Shat Sings: Jan 24, 2016

Darth123123 posted:

Skipping 7 pages to ask if this is about Walmart?

yeah, unstoppable idiot force met immovable idiot object

# ? Aug 28, 2016 06:25

InterceptorV8: Mar 9, 2004; Loaded up and trucking.We gonna do what they say cant be done.

Cool_tony posted:

Like all good threads, this one has died by shitposts

No thread in GBS can ever be called "good"

# ? Aug 28, 2016 06:33

Burt Sexual: Jan 26, 2006; by Jeffrey of YOSPOS; Switchblade Switcharoo

Fat Shat Sings posted:

yeah, unstoppable idiot force met immovable idiot object

What happened to th truck driver?

# ? Aug 28, 2016 06:33

Fat Shat Sings: Jan 24, 2016

# ? Aug 28, 2016 06:36

Ferdinand Bardamu: Apr 30, 2013

Darth123123 posted:

What happened to th truck driver?

their way of life will be crushed. another profession circling the drain.

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2016/jun/17/self-driving-trucks-impact-on-drivers-jobs-us

# ? Aug 28, 2016 06:37

InterceptorV8: Mar 9, 2004; Loaded up and trucking.We gonna do what they say cant be done.

WaryWarren posted:

their way of life will be crushed. another profession circling the drain.

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2016/jun/17/self-driving-trucks-impact-on-drivers-jobs-us

I will be retired from doing that a long time before that happens.

# ? Aug 28, 2016 06:47

Dial-a-Dog: May 22, 2001

I have no idea what interceptor is even arguing about but I guess I'll keep reading at least until he accidentally starts quoting and arguing with his own posts

# ? Aug 28, 2016 06:51

Dial-a-Dog: May 22, 2001

But seriously, lol at this being angry truck driver guy's time to shine. "Walmart's supply chain? Holy poo poo I can finally show up these snooty computer janitors!"

# ? Aug 28, 2016 06:58

Dial-a-Dog: May 22, 2001

Better lose my poo poo and threaten to ship a nerd to Japan because who knows the next time this opportunity might present itself

# ? Aug 28, 2016 06:59

Moridin920: Nov 15, 2007; by FactsAreUseless

# ? Aug 28, 2016 07:15

PCOS Bill: May 12, 2013; by FactsAreUseless

Citizen Tayne posted:

I usually go to Cain's in Dormont. You're more than welcome to come introduce yourself. PM me for my phone number, and come out to hang with me if you aren't a big biteless bitch.

So I gave you my email address and checked it throughout the last few hours and waited but you didn't email me your phone number so

# ? Aug 28, 2016 09:13

RandomPauI: Nov 24, 2006; Grimey Drawer

If you don't understand why companies might make stuff specifically for Walmart this might help. If it doesn't help you at all then there's nothing else I can do. Everyone else just skip this post.

Okay, I think one reason why the "argument" persisted for so long is that no one gave the guy any frame of reference. So here's a short example and an :effort:

example.

Here's the short example posted:

It's 2026 and Fox is putting out 10th anniversary Deadpool BetaMaxs. Target is willing to pay Fox an extra $5 a BetaMax if it comes with post-cards. Hot Topic is willing to an extra $10 a BetaMax if they get post-cards and a keychain of Deadpool jacking off a unicorn. Fox agrees to this because the cost of the custom orders is much less than the extra profit they'll make off the custom orders.

The BetaMaxs themselves get made all at once, most go straight to the warehouse. A chunk of them are set aside to get post cards added. Some of the post-card BetaMaxs get Target packaging before getting sent to a different part of the warehouse. Others get a keychain added before they're put in Hot Topic packaging. They're also sent to a different part of the warehouse. An inventory control system tells the workers which boxes of BetaMaxs are at what parts of the warehouse and where to ship those boxes. Everyone gets what they ordered and is happy.

But that was about adding stuff to a product. What about Walmart selling crappy products? posted:

Let's say it's August 2016 and I run Widget Co. We sell deluxe widgets for $400. They can be red or blue. To keep track of what product is what we use the tracking codes DWR-400 and DWB-400.

Every year we get orders for 41,000 DWR-400s and 24,000 DWB-400s. That's $26 million dollars in orders a year. We've got a few hundred of each stockpiled in a warehouse just in case someone needs a lot of the widgets now. But in general our wholesaler customers don't need a lot of widgets immediately. So they tell us how many widgets they want. We tell them how much it'll cost and how long it'll take for us to fill the order. Then we get paid and the order gets made and we're all happy. One week we might only make DWR-400s, the next week we might make a mix of DWR-400s and DWB-400s. In the end we've got a system to make the widgets, track the widgets in warehouses, and ship the widgets to the right customers.

Around this time Walmart decides they want to sell widgets in time for Christmas 2017. They want an initial run of 120,000 red and blue widgets to sell online and at their thousands of Walmarts/Sams Clubs. They're ordering over a year ahead of time and they want to receive the orders throughout the month of November 2017. If all goes well they'll buy more widgets.

But Walmart is cheap. They only want to pay $300 for the deluxe widgets. This means making a custom-order run of deluxe widgets with worse specs than the $400 model. They also want the $300 widgets exclusive to Walmart. And they want the packaging to look similar to the $400 widgets. This is an order worth $36 million dollars, so I take it. Because these widgets are different from the other ones they're tracked as DWR-300 and DWB-300. We hire more workers and expand our factory space. By 2018 we've cannibalize sales from our existing buyers but we're still coming out on top.

Why would Walmart want to sell an inferior model in the first place? First it draws people into the store where they'll buy more than just the widget. Second people who are looking for a cheap deluxe widget probably won't research the differences between the -300 and the -400 models. They'll just see similar looking packaging and think the other stores are jacking the price. So that's how making separate product lines for Walmart can be a thing that companies are willing to do. And that's why customers fall for buying a worse product.

# ? Aug 28, 2016 09:51

Rough Lobster: May 27, 2009; Don't be such a squid, bro

I miss talking about Sears.

# ? Aug 28, 2016 11:57

shut up netface: Jun 15, 2008

Uncle at Nintendo posted:

Hell mattress stores do this PER STORE. Walk into one Sleepy's and they have a different mattress model number than another Sleepy's! Just so you can't shop around.

Was quoted $1100 for a mattress; found one on Amazon for $200 that was incredible. So maybe mattress stores will be next on the chopping block.

Without a doubt. I'm nearly 30 and have purchased all of my mattresses at Sams Club. It's always some version of a fancier mattress like a Sealy or whatever at a fraction of what a mattress normally costs. poo poo I was tempted to buy a 160 dollar queen on sale. It seems bizarre that you'd want to go into a mattress store to buy one.

# ? Aug 28, 2016 12:20

Jastiger: Oct 11, 2008; by FactsAreUseless

RandomPauI posted:

If you don't understand why companies might make stuff specifically for Walmart this might help. If it doesn't help you at all then there's nothing else I can do. Everyone else just skip this post.

Okay, I think one reason why the "argument" persisted for so long is that no one gave the guy any frame of reference. So here's a short example and an example.

This right here is what i was talking about. Skip all the idiotic posts by Interceptor and read my last posts like 4 pages ago actually understand how it works for Walmart.

I mentioned electronics between retailers. An even easier example is apparel. Clothing manufacturers switch quality, volume, and styles on the same goddam lines. The same factory makes the same brand of jeans for two different companies and they are two different retail prices because they are literally made differently with different materials. All under the same brand.

# ? Aug 28, 2016 13:00

Horseshoe theory: Mar 7, 2005

Rough Lobster posted:

I miss talking about Sears.

What will be the next chain after Sears/K-Mart to sink under the seas?

# ? Aug 28, 2016 13:51

JnnyThndrs: May 29, 2001; HERE ARE THE FUCKING TOWELS

Probably Barnes and Noble or Best Buy?

# ? Aug 28, 2016 14:01

Necc0: Jun 30, 2005; by exmarx; Broken Cake

Jastiger posted:

This right here is what i was talking about. Skip all the idiotic posts by Interceptor and read my last posts like 4 pages ago actually understand how it works for Walmart.

I mentioned electronics between retailers. An even easier example is apparel. Clothing manufacturers switch quality, volume, and styles on the same goddam lines. The same factory makes the same brand of jeans for two different companies and they are two different retail prices because they are literally made differently with different materials. All under the same brand.

I know for a fact that Nike does this

# ? Aug 28, 2016 14:12

Kirk Vikernes: Apr 26, 2004; Count Goatnackh

JnnyThndrs posted:

Probably Barnes and Noble or Best Buy?

Best Buy will keep limping along until the Boomers who either don't use the internet, don't trust online shopping, or have to touch/demo the item first are gone.

# ? Aug 28, 2016 14:17

etalian: Mar 20, 2006

WaryWarren posted:

their way of life will be crushed. another profession circling the drain.

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2016/jun/17/self-driving-trucks-impact-on-drivers-jobs-us

Won't someone think of the lot lizards?

# ? Aug 28, 2016 14:24

Necc0: Jun 30, 2005; by exmarx; Broken Cake

Dirk Squarejaw posted:

Best Buy will keep limping along until the Boomers who either don't use the internet, don't trust online shopping, or have to touch/demo the item first are gone.

I believed this as well but surprisingly they've been able to turn things around and seem to be on the upswing again. We'll see if it lasts but they definitely have a gameplan now instead of just lying there waiting for amazon's coup de grace like they were before

# ? Aug 28, 2016 15:29

Rough Lobster: May 27, 2009; Don't be such a squid, bro

JnnyThndrs posted:

Probably Barnes and Noble or Best Buy?

Oddly enough it won't be Radio Shack.

# ? Aug 28, 2016 16:09

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PallasAthene: Dec 6, 2010; Why, vixen, have you again set the gods by the ears in the pride and haughtiness of your heart?

Jastiger posted:

I mentioned electronics between retailers. An even easier example is apparel. Clothing manufacturers switch quality, volume, and styles on the same goddam lines. The same factory makes the same brand of jeans for two different companies and they are two different retail prices because they are literally made differently with different materials. All under the same brand.

This is why you have to either go to the mall for Levi's or get them online. I'm not sure what the Levi's at WalMart are like, but the ones at Target are "Levi's Denizen" or some poo poo, and they don't feel the same as the real deal.

# ? Aug 28, 2016 16:13

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