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anime was right posted:bushido blade is a fg too. divekick
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Bushido Blade was very satisfying to play as a kid, you just had to land that one hit and that was it. The best stage was the bamboo forest.
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Sep 1, 2016 03:52
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In Training posted:Bushido blade is awesome also, nidhogg
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Sep 1, 2016 03:53
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i liked the sequel to BB much more. so many characters and weapon options. poo poo ruled.
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Sep 1, 2016 03:56
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Last Blade 1 got added to steam today for 10 bucks.
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Sep 1, 2016 03:59
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Real hurthling! posted:i liked the sequel to BB much more. so many characters and weapon options. poo poo ruled. i hated bb2 but i love BB so much idk the gun guy ruined it for me
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Sep 1, 2016 04:07
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Nostalgia4Butts posted:i hated bb2 but i love BB so much i think guns in that kinda game is cool conceptually idk
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Sep 1, 2016 04:08
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Zand posted:divekick if only divekick was funny or interesting or played completely differently
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Sep 1, 2016 04:09
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The gun couldn't hit you if you ran perpendicular to it I think.
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anime was right posted:well considering its a japanese company, i wonder why they "fired" him. they pulled a konami and kojima'd his rear end
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PaletteSwappedNinja posted:From the sounds of things it honestly wasn't one of those "promotions", it was more that he was supposed to work on Capcom's non-SF FGs but they're not making any more of those so he didn't have poo poo else to do there. I hope that his samsho still has some level of goofiness w/ Galford and Tam Tam At the same time, I'm kind of interested in what a not goofy Kyoshiro would be like
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Reiley posted:The gun couldn't hit you if you ran perpendicular to it I think. He couldn't. The hardest part was getting the hit on him since his defense was ridiculous (did you know a revolver can block a sword at nearly any angle??). When I used to play BS2 vs other people nobody ever picked either of the gun people (there was also a lady) anyway so it wasn't an issue. Awesome game.
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Virtual On is very much a fighting game. It's a shame the series peaked with Oratorio Tangram and never came back. EX Vs. doesn't quite scratch the same itch.
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Broken Loose posted:Virtual On is very much a fighting game. It's a shame the series peaked with Oratorio Tangram and never came back. EX Vs. doesn't quite scratch the same itch. I'm still annoyed the HD-ish rerelease is languishing on the 360 XBLA and will probably never get ported to anything else. 
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Sep 1, 2016 12:00
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Okay there I added yer goddamn KOF thread to the list
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Yo the first real footage of Mai Shiranui coming to DOA5 just came out and she looks pretty good:uncleKitchener posted:
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Mai will be out September 13th!
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Broken Loose posted:Virtual On is very much a fighting game. It's a shame the series peaked with Oratorio Tangram and never came back. EX Vs. doesn't quite scratch the same itch. If Virtual On and Gundam Extreme Vs. are considered fighting games, then smash sure as hell is.
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KOF is good. Join us in our thread for actual good discussions.
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FanaticalMilk posted:If Virtual On and Gundam Extreme Vs. are considered fighting games, then smash sure as hell is. Virtual On: pick a character from a varied cast, attempt to deplete your opponent's hp to 0 using normal/special/super attacks unique to your character, matches are divided into individually timed rounds, 1v1, features meter management, has the same gamestate progression as street fighter Smsah: pick a character from a half-varied and half-cloned cast, attempt to shove your opponent offscreen multiple times over 8 minutes of ill-defined round, timer only leads to sudden death mechanic that plays completely different from a normal round and then has random bombs rain to the field, features heavy rng elements that must be disabled to play competitively, isn't even intended to be played 1v1
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Sep 2, 2016 11:12
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They don't play sudden death in smash competitive, I believe they just go to a 1 stock match or something.
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Broken Loose posted:Virtual On: pick a character from a varied cast, attempt to deplete your opponent's hp to 0 using normal/special/super attacks unique to your character, matches are divided into individually timed rounds, 1v1, features meter management, has the same gamestate progression as street fighter 8 (which itself is being generous in this count) out of 52 characters is "half"? And even if Sakurai doesn't like 1v1 play, the game was definitely balanced with 1v1 play later on. The patches that followed tournaments and 1v1 play definitely showed that even if they left some characters in the dust (RIP Jigglypuff). In Training posted:They don't play sudden death in smash competitive, I believe they just go to a 1 stock match or something. They usually base it off of Percentage leads, and in cases where percentages are tied they would go to a 1 stock match.
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You say "half-cloned cast" like shotos haven't been a thing since the literal invention of the fighting game genre.
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Ultima66 posted:You say "half-cloned cast" like shotos haven't been a thing since the literal invention of the fighting game genre. Ken and ryu have been p different for uhh like 20 years. there are no other shotos. a better argument would be something like mortal kombat but that sucks so who cares
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Sep 2, 2016 19:01
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dangerdoom volvo posted:there are no other shotos. What
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Sep 2, 2016 19:19
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Akuma is a shoto and lots of nerds who care more about that dumb poo poo instead of actually playing or being good at fighting games will make arguments for any character with a fireball and DP to be a "shoto" or "shoto clone" and it extends all the way to games like Guilty Gear where Ky gets boiled down to 'fireball and DP" to new players as a way to convince them he'll be easy in this new game where everything is hard.
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Sep 2, 2016 19:20
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ky rules so trickery is good
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Broken Loose posted:Virtual On: pick a character from a varied cast, attempt to deplete your opponent's hp to 0 using normal/special/super attacks unique to your character, matches are divided into individually timed rounds, 1v1, features meter management, has the same gamestate progression as street fighter The tournament standard is 2 stock 6 minutes for a match where each stock constitutes a round in the same way as Vampire Savior, a set is best 2 of 3. Every character is different and caters to a unique playstyle and after a year and a half of balance patching almost all 60 of them are viable. If the match goes to time the player with the lower percent and the same number of stocks wins, if it's a tie then the same stage is played and a one-stock one-minute round to determine the winner but this is extremely rare to actually happen. One of the major differences is rather than landing any blow to take the last pixel of health you need to find a way to land a specific finishing blow to close out a stock.
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i like when people get mad about the reused characters in melty blood like sion and v. sion or the three versions of akiha, even though they only share like 4-5 normals
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Sep 2, 2016 19:25
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Most of the Smash clones are pretty different though? At least on the same level of Ken and Ryu in most games. Like it's really disingenuous to claim Ken and Ryu are totally different characters but Mario/Luigi, Marth/Roy, Link/Toon Link, and Captain Falcon/Ganondorf are too similar.
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Real hurthling! posted:ky rules so trickery is good I agree but people say it in a way that gives a false sense that he's the way for a Street Fighter player to learn how to play Guilty Gear The Right Way and that it will somehow be easier overall instead of just saying, play who you find interesting and it will be hard at first no matter what.
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bebaloorpabopalo posted:I agree but people say it in a way that gives a false sense that he's the way for a Street Fighter player to learn how to play Guilty Gear The Right Way and that it will somehow be easier overall instead of just saying, play who you find interesting and it will be hard at first no matter what. sure. but ridedada litenin
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Ultima66 posted:Most of the Smash clones are pretty different though? At least on the same level of Ken and Ryu in most games. Like it's really disingenuous to claim Ken and Ryu are totally different characters but Mario/Luigi, Marth/Roy, Link/Toon Link, and Captain Falcon/Ganondorf are too similar. The characters you listed all have different moves and different properties in the latest version of the game. Pit and Dark Pit are arguably closest to being actual clones, their only difference is one special move launches opponents at different angles (diagonally vs. vertically) and one has a stronger projectile at the cost of being harder to steer through the air.
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Dark Pit
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This thread is a dark pit
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In Training posted:Dark Pit Goon in a Pit
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smash 4 is boring and lovely except for the fact that ryu is really cool in that game because you can do sick combos melee is a fun game to press buttons in the smash community is terrible thanks
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dangerdoom volvo posted:Ken and ryu have been p different for uhh like 20 years. True, Ryu and Ken aren't even the same in World Warrior.
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No one said Ken and Ryu were the same. I said it was really loving dumb for BL to complain Smash has too many clones when they're all about as different from each other as Ken and Ryu in almost every game they both show up in. There are lots of other valid reasons to claim Smash isn't a fighting game. "There are clones in the cast" is not one of them.
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Endorph posted:i like when people get mad about the reused characters in melty blood like sion and v. sion or the three versions of akiha, even though they only share like 4-5 normals Melty Blood is a marvel of recycling and energy reutilization, it's Al Gore's favorite fighting game.
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bebaloorpabopalo posted:I agree but people say it in a way that gives a false sense that he's the way for a Street Fighter player to learn how to play Guilty Gear The Right Way and that it will somehow be easier overall instead of just saying, play who you find interesting and it will be hard at first no matter what. nobody is saying 'he's literally just ryu,' there's tons of mechanical nuance to gg that isn't in sf and the game itself is very different but i don't think saying people should start with ky is some sort of massive lie, and i do think someone learning the basics with ky or sol is going to have less to worry about than if they try learning the game as johnny or bedman or whoever
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