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Seamonster posted:I would actually say try to get an integrated graphics MBP 15 - she won't need the dedicated GPU. Last I heard, the 4K panel on the XPS 15 is one of the best you can get and great for showing off photography but photoshop UI scaling in Windows is utterly hosed. 256GB storage is going to get old real fast if she's storing loads of RAW files onboard. Sorry, I forgot to put in there that she wants to stay with Windows. So the fact that the T560 I was looking at has the integrated Intel HD Graphics 520 instead of a dedicated card isn't a deal breaker? It also looks like they can be customized up to a 512GB SSD.
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^^^ I don't think Lightroom/Photoshop benefit that much from discrete GPUs so it shouldn't be a problem. Hadlock posted:Yeah I'm curious how this will go down, as apple pretty much explicitly patented that idea either last year or earlier this year. Not that it's terribly original.
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mobby_6kl posted:^^^ If Apple is doing it, of course it will become A Thing and every other laptop will remain poo poo.
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KillHour posted:Acer just made the world's dumbest loving laptop. http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2016/08/acer-predator-21x-curved-laptop-details-uk/ "The new Predator 21X laptop sits at the very top of Acer's gaming laptop range. The curved screen, which has a resolution of 2560×1080, is powered by two of Nvidia's latest mobile GTX 1080 graphics cards." 
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Xenochrist posted:http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2016/08/acer-predator-21x-curved-laptop-details-uk/ you're emphasizing the wrong part there. "The new Predator 21X laptop sits at the very top of Acer's gaming laptop range. The curved screen, which has a resolution of 2560×1080, is powered by two of Nvidia's latest mobile GTX 1080 graphics cards." in what possible world do you need SLI'd 1080s to power that.
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The Iron Rose posted:in what possible world do you need SLI'd 1080s to power that. Winning epeen contests. Mobily.
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It is pretty cool and also something I will never buy. Kinda like a disgustingly riced up truck.
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Hello, Laptop Goons! I'm looking into getting a new laptop. My current (and fast fading) machine is an Acer Aspire 1810tz which has served me well but is just getting too dang old (as is my knowledge of current laptops  )Ideally I'd like to get something along these lines:
First and foremost, what GPU should I shoot for? Would a 960m be enough of should I go for at least a 980m? I'm assuming that the prices on laptops running these will drop in the next weeks/months as the 1060 machines are coming out, right? Second, any make/model recommendations? I have an old aversion to HP (had one of those AMD Pavilions that heat itself to death) and have no idea if they're worthwhile these days. Thanks!
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Sep 1, 2016 23:57
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If you're willing to play Skyrim on Low, you don't need a discrete GPU. As long as your Intel powered laptop was built after Summer 2012. Fallout 4 probably does, though. I would wait and buy a laptop with a 1060 in it, as is suggested in the OP
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Hadlock posted:If you're willing to play Skyrim on Low, you don't need a discrete GPU. As long as your Intel powered laptop was built after Summer 2012. Fallout 4 probably does, though. One thing I forgot was budget. I'd like to stick to around $1000 and I'm assuming whatever has a 1060 in it is going to be much higher than that. Thanks for the suggestion, though!
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cigaw posted:One thing I forgot was budget. I'd like to stick to around $1000 and I'm assuming whatever has a 1060 in it is going to be much higher than that. Can you save another $300? Check out xoticPC and Amazon. Unless you're buying a used laptop with a 970m or 980m for $800-$900 you have a bad value proposition.
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My brother in law is starting a comp Sci degree in a couple of weeks and is looking for a laptop. Budget is looking to be a max of £800, but cheaper would be great. He mentioned he'd heard mac's are great for coding on, which I have no idea the veracity of that claim.  Spec wise, something that he's going to be able to run a variety of IDEs on and compile reasonably complex projects, decent battery and screen. I guess 15" but if anybody has any advice or thoughts on working on a smaller screen I'd appreciate the input.
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Macs are great for comp. sci. stuff, not really any technical reason, rather UNIX underpinnings making them popular for historical reasons, and then the popularity ensuring that pretty much all software you'd want works great on macs. Linux is an alternative from that same perspective but it is such a crapshoot whether one runs into issues or not (e.g. some software one needs, some subtle hardware incompatibility, etc.) that I hesitate to suggest that route. Screen real estate and a good keyboard tends to sort of be the key requirements for a lot of CS stuff though yeah (all depends of course), often advisable to not skimp on memory as well. With the budget suggested the Mac route may be hard (the Air 13 is the option, and is not too bad, but already over budget, and going at least 14" would be nice). I think the usual Thinkpad X/T suggestion will be the best bet here, assuming a good deal can be dragged up. Just going by new list prices a T460 is doable, but there are nicer options if better deals can be found.
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Cybernetic Vermin posted:Macs are great for comp. sci. stuff, not really any technical reason, rather UNIX underpinnings making them popular for historical reasons, and then the popularity ensuring that pretty much all software you'd want works great on macs. Linux is an alternative from that same perspective but it is such a crapshoot whether one runs into issues or not (e.g. some software one needs, some subtle hardware incompatibility, etc.) that I hesitate to suggest that route. Ah that makes sense! He may be able to get a refurb or use the educational discount to get a better deal. I'll check out the usual ThinkPad suspects too. Thanks so much!
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My laptop is on its last legs/hinges after a little over 3 years. It was a cheapo, so I don't mind too much. If y'all could help me find a new one, it'd be much appreciated. I'm gonna use it for studying (which is basically just viewing PDFs, though), surfing, watching movies, listening to music etc. My husband is a game developer and might take it to conventions etc. sometimes to show his games. Here's what I (think I) need: Windows, at least 250 GB hard drive, upgrade-able with extra RAM slots, matte display with at least 1920x1080 resolution, not too big (under 16"), CD drive with burning abilities, built-in webcam and mic, HDMI slot, bluetooth And ideally for under 700 euros.
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Amazon's Gold Box deal of the day is a bunch of gaming laptops and desktop stuff. Not sure if it's fantastic deals but worth looking at.
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What are all these cooling options (Notebook Coolers, Copper Cooling, XOTIC PC Redline Boost)? Why are the Sagers noticeably cheaper than their competitors? What's the catch? Do they break easily or something? Between this two: 15.6” FHD 16:9 IPS LED-Backlit Display with Matte Finish w/ G-SYNC Technology (1920x1080) 15.6” 4K QFHD 16:9 Display with Matte Finish w/ G-SYNC Technology (3840x2160) Is the IPS LED-Backlit important? Why did it get dropped?
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The Iron Rose posted:Can you save another $300? Check out xoticPC and Amazon. Katreus posted:Why are the Sagers noticeably cheaper than their competitors? What's the catch? Do they break easily or something?
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I've had three Sagers since 2006 and have been happy with the build quality of each. I travel for work, so they take some abuse, though I'm as careful as I can be. They save some money with things like not having TPM, and not having particularly standout keyboards, trackpads, or screens. None of those three are bad, but they're not stand-out and the screens are usually mature panels. The newest Sagers seem to using nicer screens. They also save money on marketing and lack of retail store placement. Finally, Clevo makes money as the ODM for other manufacturers. I don't know if they still do, but they were the ODM for Alienware years ago.
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I'm looking at this laptop for when I travel for work or vacation. I just want it to be able to play games at 1080p at medium-high settings, and right now it'll just be used for WoW gaming wise, or I'd wait for the 10 series mobile cards. I do have a question for Xotic's "instant rebate" - is that rebate already applied, or is it like a normal rebate where I"ll pay the 799 and then get the 200 back instantly?
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Dirty Needles posted:My brother in law is starting a comp Sci degree in a couple of weeks and is looking for a laptop. Macs are sort of the lingua franca of writing code these days. I would get him a 13" Macbook Air at that price range. Writing code on a Mac is at least a magnitude of order easier than Windows, because everyone writes their tool on their Mac, and then later ports it to Win or Linux. Barring that, you can get him/her a Thinkpad of some kind, running Linux. You may be able to find a Thinkpad T450 for $800 Finally, he's actually going to be taking his laptop to class, don't make him cart around a 15" laptop all day. 13 or 13.3" is a humane sized laptop to give you a student.
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Hadlock posted:Macs are sort of the lingua franca of writing code these days. I would get him a 13" Macbook Air at that price range. Isn't the air horribly out of date at this point, and is it wise to buy any apple product with their september event coming up in five days?
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I used to think the air was out of date, but if you look at the Macbook (non air/pro) out has a tiny cellphone like Intel chip. The Air actually outperforms it in cpu. Battery life is comparable too. The Macbook is more like an Apple Chromebook. Also the keyboard on the new MacBook is terrible compared to the Air and Pro. So that's reason enough, for me.
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KillHour posted:Acer just made the world's dumbest loving laptop. I would pay good money to see Jonathan Ive's look on his face when somebody plops this down in front of him with a smug face. A 8kg 21" laptop with a mechanical keyboard and a curved screen. Now I feel guilty for giving Asus poo poo about their watercooling docking station. Do people actually buy these things or are they just halo/marketing excerises á la Bugatti Veyron?
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Mr E posted:I'm looking at this laptop for when I travel for work or vacation. I just want it to be able to play games at 1080p at medium-high settings, and right now it'll just be used for WoW gaming wise, or I'd wait for the 10 series mobile cards. I do have a question for Xotic's "instant rebate" - is that rebate already applied, or is it like a normal rebate where I"ll pay the 799 and then get the 200 back instantly? Terrible deal either way, the 960m is an awful card. if you're really only paying $600 for it then it's not the worst deal, but it will not be able to play games at 1080p at medium high settings. the 960m struggles to maintain 30 FPS on low settings at 1080p, and i've had to turn settings down on multiple games.
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The Iron Rose posted:Terrible deal either way, the 960m is an awful card. Man, standards have suddenly gotten way higher now that the mobile 10xx GPUs are so powerful. I've got an AMD 8790M in my big fat heavy work laptop and a 960m would be a huge step up from this garbage.
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Twerk from Home posted:Man, standards have suddenly gotten way higher now that the mobile 10xx GPUs are so powerful. I've got an AMD 8790M in my big fat heavy work laptop and a 960m would be a huge step up from this garbage. to be fair i've been bitching about the 960m for a year now it was a bad buy even compared to the 970m/980m. With pascal out, it's even worse in comparison. I know Maxwell really made large strides in improving dGPUs, but Pascal has taken the crown.
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The Iron Rose posted:to be fair i've been bitching about the 960m for a year now It almost feels like the 960m should be on the productivity side of things and not the "GTX Gaming!" side.
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Hadlock posted:Macs are sort of the lingua franca of writing code these days. I would get him a 13" Macbook Air at that price range. Thanks! I'll start looking into MBA's, the refurb store has a couple of 2015 MBPr's up around his budget. Are they worth looking at?
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Well, I had settled on getting the new (new new) Razer Blade 14" with a 1060, and everything about it was what I wanted: 1080 screen, 16GB RAM, 512 SSD (and NVMe to boot), Pascal 1060, and in budget. Pre-orders had a ship date of September 30. Okay, fine. They sold out already. 
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Alienware announced new laptops with Pascal GPU's. http://www.theverge.com/2016/9/2/12757830/alienware-gaming-laptops-ifa-2016 i7 6820HK in 17 and 15 inch models. It's all great and all, but I also heard they reduced battery capacity to similar levels of their competitors. What the gently caress are they doing? That's battery life cut in half pretty much if true. Edit: http://www.notebookcheck.net/Alienware-launches-new-Gaming-Notebooks.173070.0.html Oh, thankfully it seems to be optional, but if they are going to sacrifice extra M.2 slots or sata interface for it I will be very sad. Sininu fucked around with this message at 22:39 on Sep 2, 2016 |
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SinineSiil posted:Alienware announced new laptops with Pascal GPU's. http://www.theverge.com/2016/9/2/12757830/alienware-gaming-laptops-ifa-2016 Gaming laptops are mobile desktops, not actual laptops.
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blowfish posted:Gaming laptops are mobile desktops, not actual laptops. And that means they should get inappropriately small battery? I don't play on the go, but I care about battery life while doing light stuff and current AW15 has amazing battery life for what it is.
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The Iron Rose posted:Terrible deal either way, the 960m is an awful card. (Also, yeah, reasonable at $600, not reasonable at $800.)
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Anyone with experience with Razer have any idea how long they are likely to delay before 1. opening up orders again and 2. actually shipping product? I know I'm being petulant, but I feel like they're selling the idea of a 14" Razer Blade with a 1060 rather than an actual thing.
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That Acer gaming laptop is pretty cool. If only it weren't so drat ugly. And expensive. I've thought of doing similar stuff with a small gaming desktop pc, but for much less than 2-4 grand.
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Dirty Needles posted:My brother in law is starting a comp Sci degree in a couple of weeks and is looking for a laptop. Hadlock's reply is wrong in that for anything that isn't webdev, stuff works better on Linux way more. And the webdev stuff works on linux too. Linux is the "just works" platform and OS X is a bizarro-land where things are often broken. You can always run Linux in a VM whether you get a Mac or PC. I'd say a 13" Mac versus a 13-14" Thinkpad is a crapshoot -- the main reason I'd go for a Thinkpad is that a Mac keyboard has a hard landing and that's bad for the joints in the fingers (the way I type). sarehu fucked around with this message at 06:16 on Sep 3, 2016 |
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sarehu posted:Hadlock's reply is wrong in that for anything that isn't webdev, stuff works better on Linux way more. And the webdev stuff works on linux too. Linux is the "just works" platform and OS X is a bizarro-land where things are often broken. What was wrong with my suggestion of a Thinkpad running Linux in the next sentence? It's debatable as to what tools work best for what systems. Think we can agree they both eclipse windows. I don't think buying a Mac is the "wrong" choice though.
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Nothing! I'm sperging out, man.Hadlock posted:Macs are sort of the lingua franca of writing code these days. You even had the right qualifier in there.
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Hey I was thinking of buying the Razer Blade Stealth qhd 250something gigs. I don't need a gaming laptop and want something fast so I dont get frustrated when it gets choppy and I have like 20 tabs open. I also like it because its keys can glow and do funny things, can someone talk me out of this before I spend 1500 (CAD) on it? I'm also not interested in the 4k screen because of the battery life drain, massive price increase, and I have a 2 TB external to use for portable storage of media so I dont need the memory. People were talking about new graphic cards coming out soon, Im assuming that doesnt apply to this purchase cause I think they use onboard graphics without the core and I dont really need graphics, I have my own gaming desktop thats p. nice. The activities I'll be doing? Chrome, p2p, watching videos, office stuff (in school still), maybe some dungeon crawls. Anyways if there's anything thats really strikingly bad about this choice does anyone have any input? I tried to look back like 10 pages but gave up, people seem to only talk about the Razer Blades. Thanks!
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