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Haven't played Destiny 2, but in general I don't think Tales games lend themselves well to sequels. I'd prefer they just wash their hands of the whole thing and start with something new.
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tales of destiny 2 pretty much just exists because leon magnus makes them all of the money in the world
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Sep 4, 2016 03:06
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the tales of the abyss sequel takes place in the period between the last boss and the ending of the game you control luke as he must survive on his own until he can fully grow out his hair
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Sep 4, 2016 03:07
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Maybe Tales of Berseria 2 will star your pirate crew as they go on adventures while Velvet's team does whatever. I don't know if that actually works with Beseria's story or anything since I haven't played it, but from what everyone's said your crew is cool and stuff. So that sounds vaguely fun.
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Sep 4, 2016 03:17
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I would absolutely play a game about the NPCs from Berseria. Most of them even already have fighting styles/weapons of choice.
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Sep 4, 2016 04:22
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Okay, I might be in the minority here, but how about The Adventures Of Long-Haired Mikleo and Older Seraph Sorey?
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Sep 4, 2016 04:31
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How about a Tales game where you play as Dhaos who crosses over into the Xillia Dimension and becomes friends with Dhaos Milla and they wander the world dropping huge lasers on nerds. I really just want a good crossover Tales game. Like there's room for parts of the themes of some Tales games to crossover in interesting ways. Luke hanging out with Graces F crew. Yuri hanging out with Sorey. Edna and Jade trolling the UNIVERSE.
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Sep 4, 2016 04:43
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is that not what the tales of the world games are like
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Sep 4, 2016 04:46
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Speaking of Leon, who got Leon'd in Berseria? Or is it somehow not part of their costume DLC?
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Decus posted:Speaking of Leon, who got Leon'd in Berseria? Or is it somehow not part of their costume DLC? Nobody.
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Sep 4, 2016 05:12
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OneDeadman posted:How about a Tales game where you play as Dhaos who crosses over into the Xillia Dimension and becomes friends with Dhaos Milla and they wander the world dropping huge lasers on nerds. A villain crossover game. But only the villains who did nothing wrong.  So Dhaos, Gaius, maybe Van.
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Sep 4, 2016 05:28
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master van did something wrong
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Sep 4, 2016 05:30
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CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK posted:A villain crossover game. Gaius did a lot of things wrong.
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Sep 4, 2016 05:32
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The Colonel posted:master van did something wrong He had the right idea, just went about it the wrong way  Hunt11 posted:Gaius did a lot of things wrong. Lies! gently caress Elympios, let them all die.
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Sep 4, 2016 05:33
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CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK posted:He had the right idea, just went about it the wrong way His idiotic ideas would have doomed Rieze Maxia as well.
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Sep 4, 2016 05:51
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Wasn't Duke basically operating on the idea that he had to wipe out humanity to save everything else and the protagonists' idea was a gamble to save everything but also risk everything?
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Sep 4, 2016 05:56
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CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK posted:A villain crossover game. I forget, did Duke actually do anything evil for the whole of Vesperia? I just remember him being all cryptic and enigmatic on the sidelines for most of the game until he went "all right, that's quite enough of that" and went off to hit the end-of-the-world button.
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Sep 4, 2016 05:57
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CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK posted:A villain crossover game. Van was really terrible and awful to my good friend Luke. Also the whole murdered an entire town and tried to kill everyone in the world thing. But mostly all that manipulation of Luke. It was really mean of him.
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Sep 4, 2016 05:58
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I guess Lambda/Richard could fit in somewhere? Also, Tales of the Abyss 2 : Oracle Knight Boogaloo
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Sep 4, 2016 06:23
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Hahaha goddammit Berseria Phoenix shows up to call Eizen out for neglecting Edna, and after you beat him, Eizen asks him to protect her, and Phoenix agrees on the condition that Eizen write her a proper letter. After he leaves, Eizen says outright "he showed me not to give up without doing a thing." I'm having an incredibly hard time not reading into that.
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Hunt11 posted:His idiotic ideas would have doomed Rieze Maxia as well. Let them all die THEN tear down the wall. A Sometimes Food posted:Wasn't Duke basically operating on the idea that he had to wipe out humanity to save everything else and the protagonists' idea was a gamble to save everything but also risk everything? Oxxidation posted:I forget, did Duke actually do anything evil for the whole of Vesperia? I just remember him being all cryptic and enigmatic on the sidelines for most of the game until he went "all right, that's quite enough of that" and went off to hit the end-of-the-world button. Sounds about right. I barely remember what happened at the end, but I remember it got really stupid.
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Vespy 2 would be rad to me if they were to go for a premise where the magical system is in fact stable and non-intrusive to the rest of the plot. Build another story on politics and hit the moral dilemmas harder, and then once that's wrapped up you just play with the post-game building up your guild. Sodia needs to be playable. Ristelle is a given.
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Oxxidation posted:I forget, did Duke actually do anything evil for the whole of Vesperia? I just remember him being all cryptic and enigmatic on the sidelines for most of the game until he went "all right, that's quite enough of that" and went off to hit the end-of-the-world button. Well geez it's been like nearly ten years but I think he needed more than blastia to destroy the adephagos, so because he's a broken war veteran who became disillusioned with humanity he wanted to sacrifice humanity to get the power Other than that, not really. He's just a broken war veteran
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Sep 4, 2016 07:05
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He's also the only villain in a jrpg i've ever seen take the protagonist's "it's not too late" offer, so there's that I guess.
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Sep 4, 2016 07:06
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Pretty much Duke went around being mysterious for most of the game. But was clearly on the good guys side and helped them out a lot. Even givening them the item they needed to save the world. When in the end the world eating eldritch monster came forth anyway. He decided to use an ancient weapon to destroy it. But in order to power it enough to destroy the beast he would need suck the life energy out of all humanity. (This would kill him as well.) Yuri and gang got another way but Duke felt it would not work. (He was actually correct in this regard they needed a bit more power which Duke supplied after changing his mind.)
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Sep 4, 2016 07:51
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CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK posted:Let them all die THEN tear down the wall. Are you forgetting his brilliant idea to grab the lance of Kresnik back when all he knew was that it was a weapon that could quite easily destroy the world.
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How is the co-op in Berseria? E: Hell, how's the combat in Berseria, speaking as someone who really only played Vesperia and Abyss?
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Hunt11 posted:Are you forgetting his brilliant idea to grab the lance of Kresnik back when all he knew was that it was a weapon that could quite easily destroy the world. That reminds me that Gaius has apparently given exactly zero thought to succession. Given that he's the one that united Auj Oule (and later Rieze Maxia), I don't see how his country could possibly not fragment and/or explode into civil war the moment he died. Clearly, it's important to hoard as many magic WMDs as possible! Nothing could possibly go wrong.
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This week Zestiria the retcon: -With the bridge hosed, ufotable replaces another scene with Alisha being active and searching for an alternate route to Mariland. -Earth Form is immediately used without fuss. -Ouroborus is just a regular hellion, not a seraph in disguise. I think he just got one-punched and that's it. -The drake boss appears and attacks Ouroborus, I don't remember Drakes being the stage of dragons that can still be purified. -Atakk meets up with Mikleo as they journey on to Mariland, skipping the whole haunted house quest. -Sorey makes the bridge to mariland, there's no speech at all about "People will hate and fear you!" decision at all. To be fair, he made the bridge hastily to chase the drake when the other soldiers were basically knocked out from Ouroboros. -No Lucas at all. It's pretty much dying people, Sorey+Crew, and Alisha for a short while until the drake fight. -There's a whole elaborate plan to try and get the drake on the ground, culminating in Mikleo's last minute fusion with Sorey which highlights their bond instead of atakk boosting their arrow in a calm night in-game. Tons of changes as usual, some for time (Lucas) and some smart reorganization of characters without losing too much (Atakk).
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TheKingofSprings posted:How is the co-op in Berseria? Also, if you've only played Vesperia and Abyss, it'll be the best combat by a mile. It's very fast and very focused on offense, but it's a lot of fun. Soul management is a really cool gimmick and everyone has a fun mechanic unique to them, Velvet and Eizen especially.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1sLtgnFz-go Here's some 4 player.
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Staltran posted:That reminds me that Gaius has apparently given exactly zero thought to succession. Given that he's the one that united Auj Oule (and later Rieze Maxia), I don't see how his country could possibly not fragment and/or explode into civil war the moment he died. Clearly, it's important to hoard as many magic WMDs as possible! Nothing could possibly go wrong. The successor is the one who can cook the best Gaius dumplings.
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Well, his successor is clearly his and Muzet's child.
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Okay, I'm sort of curious about something. Does anyone here have any interesting ideas for a gameplay mechanic for the next tales game? Pure speculation and ideas, just asking out of curiosity and hope that Nam-Ban is reading (but I know they aren't).
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The problem with Tales Combat is that there are so many moving interlocking parts that they can't really use the system to its fullest. If you look at action games with good combat systems (KH2, Platinum games), their components are a lot more modular. Save maybe a small handful of core actions you could remove any mechanic or skill and the game would still work, even if it reduces your options and makes some of the tougher fights harder. Tales has this weird problem where there are so many moves and mechanics they're either worthless or part of some insane ad-hoc web of weaknesses and counters that changes the way it operates for each game. I don't know if their combat system having a new gimmick is important, I'd rather they minify the combat system; strip it down, and only retain what they really need. Fewer but more meaningful parts.
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I want a Final Fantasy X2 plot, where it's after the crew saves the world and we get to see people rebuilding and loving the heroes. From what I understand Xillia 2 doesn't do that much.
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Jsor posted:The problem with Tales Combat is that there are so many moving interlocking parts that they can't really use the system to its fullest. If you look at action games with good combat systems (KH2, Platinum games), their components are a lot more modular. Save maybe a small handful of core actions you could remove any mechanic or skill and the game would still work, even if it reduces your options and makes some of the tougher fights harder. Tales has this weird problem where there are so many moves and mechanics they're either worthless or part of some insane ad-hoc web of weaknesses and counters that changes the way it operates for each game.
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voltcatfish posted:He's also the only villain in a jrpg i've ever seen take the protagonist's "it's not too late" offer, so there's that I guess. And he was a fantastic final boss and that moment where he straight up steals all of your fell arms to become even more super powered was fantastic. He was a really fun fight.
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Endorph posted:bring back narikiri dolls and the eleth mixer Basically use Graces F as a template for everything but make the story good. Maybe make the crafting a bit less obtuse too. Skychrono posted:I want a Final Fantasy X2 plot, where it's after the crew saves the world and we get to see people rebuilding and loving the heroes. From what I understand Xillia 2 doesn't do that much. The Xillia 2 heroes are loving to murder the poo poo out of fractured dimensions  Also everyone loves King Gaius.
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