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Does anyone know offhand how many episodes of TOS actually had the entire main cast in them? I know Chekov doesn't even show up until season two.
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egon_beeblebrox posted:Does anyone know offhand how many episodes of TOS actually had the entire main cast in them? I know Chekov doesn't even show up until season two. If you include the Cage, it was just Nimoy to appear in every episode. Memory Alpha has actor biographies which tell you how many episodes people appeared in... Kirk was in every episode Uhura was in 69 Scotty was in 63 Chekov was in 36 Sulu was in 52 But then I can't tell you how many had both Chekov and Sulu
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Sep 3, 2016 23:13
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WickedHate posted:I've always thought if you cut away every bad to mediocre TOS episode you'd have maybe one season worth of material, but with Enterprise you'd have at least two, so Enterprise always beats TOS in terms of objective quantifiable quality. Thoughts?
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Sep 4, 2016 00:12
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I'm just saying, regardless of it being a result of what's already been established and an extra season, I can't ever really see ranking TOS above it.
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Sep 4, 2016 00:15
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HD DAD posted:Threshold could have been good if it was about the mental repercussions of seeing all of time and space at once. The funny thing about Threshold is just how solid the string of episodes immediately after it are.
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Sep 4, 2016 00:49
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HD DAD posted:Threshold could have been good if it was about the mental repercussions of seeing all of time and space at once. NOOOOOOOOOOO But, yeah. This is totally right. "Threshold" should be some rad psycho-sci fi that turns Tom Paris into Muad'dib for at least one episode. Instead, we get lizard sex.
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Sep 4, 2016 00:59
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If it was 'rapidly evolving to fit its environment' they could have pivoted to 'what type of environment is a human best suitable for' as a philosophical trek episode.
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Sep 4, 2016 01:03
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Enterprise might be more consistent than TOS (although outside season 3 of TOS I am skeptical of that) but it clearly doesn't match the heights that TOS achieved.
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Sep 4, 2016 02:24
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More consistently poo poo, maybe e: loving lol someone in this world thinks there are thirty good episodes in Enterprise
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Sep 4, 2016 02:53
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I'm betting there are less than 10 good episodes of Enterprise
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Sep 4, 2016 03:15
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Anything with the andorians is decent.
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Sep 4, 2016 03:20
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If you're comparing it to the good episodes of TOS, then yeah, of course it isn't going to measure up. Those loving episodes are iconic for a reason. But if you're using the TNG/DS9 metric of good, then yes, there are at least 20-30 good episodes of Enterprise. You can't compare two completely different eras of tv and be surprised when one or the other doesn't measure up.
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Sep 4, 2016 04:10
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Rhyno posted:So do we have confirmation that souls don't exist in Trek other than Thomas Riker? Because I was thinking about Quantum Dupe Harry and Naomi again and it dawned on me that when the crew of Voyager dies there's already a dead version of each of them in the afterlife. There's also dozens of dead Next Gen characters after "Cause and Effect"...
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Sep 4, 2016 04:24
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Angry Salami posted:There's also dozens of dead Next Gen characters after "Cause and Effect"... But on the plus side, they gained Captain Frasier and his crew! Niles is First Officer, I presume.
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Sep 4, 2016 04:27
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Angry Salami posted:There's also dozens of dead Next Gen characters after "Cause and Effect"... There's a DC comics called the Kingdom that involves a villain killing Superman then traveling back in time to the previous day and doing it again and a gain hundreds of times. I imagine dying and going to heaven to find dozens of your own ghost might be slightly unsettling.
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Sep 4, 2016 04:33
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Baka-nin posted:I finished watching the Animated Series, and I really like it. I first saw a couple episodes on Saturday morning as a young child. Shortly after seeing a few episodes of TOS. It was very weird for a child, that and the cheapness of the show, (a couple of times they cropped out the speaking characters mouth with a ridiculously close, close up) I can see why ratings were poor when it first aired. One of the great things about TAS that often gets overlooked is how it was such a direct continuation of TOS. The opening credits, the voice actors, the writers--it was one of the most straightforward cartoon adaptations of an existing property wtihout jazzing it up or rebooting it. I appreciated that. It's the closest we have to a TOS S4 (besides Star Trek Continues).
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Sep 4, 2016 04:34
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Rhyno posted:There's a DC comics called the Kingdom that involves a villain killing Superman then traveling back in time to the previous day and doing it again and a gain hundreds of times. I imagine dying and going to heaven to find dozens of your own ghost might be slightly unsettling. Let's not even get started on the unlimited alternate-universe versions of you.
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Sep 4, 2016 04:37
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OneThousandMonkeys posted:It drops off a cliff at season three. I don't know. For all the poo poo Spock's Brain gets, it kinda mostly narratively hangs together, at least if you don't think about the back story too hard. As for The Alternative Factor... man, I still don't even know what the hell happened in that one. Something about an antimatter universe and one of the Lazari is insane and there's like a false-color doorway universe, and they have Spaceman Spiff's little ship, but I don't know what the hell any of it meant or why it happened.
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Sep 4, 2016 04:55
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Powered Descent posted:I don't know. For all the poo poo Spock's Brain gets, it kinda mostly narratively hangs together, at least if you don't think about the back story too hard. I unironically love The Alternative Factor because it is incomprehensible nonsense.
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Sep 4, 2016 04:57
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When you die, your ghost merges with all your quantum duplicates, you become one with the collective experience.
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Sep 4, 2016 04:59
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bull3964 posted:When you die, your ghost merges with all your quantum duplicates, you become one with the collective experience. * Powered Descent spontaneously dies in a random accident  Hello, Powered Descent! I'm the you that got hit by a car, in what you think of as that near-miss when you were fourteen! Hello, Powered Descent! I'm the you that accepted the invitation to go out with that weird girl Jenny and then got hooked on crack with her and died. Hello, Powered Descent! I'm the you that majored in engineering instead of underwater basket weaving and went on to a lifetime of fortune and fame! I died of natural causes on the Mars Colony in 2089! Hello, Powered Descent! I'm the you that went to McDonald's instead of Subway and didn't get killed crossing the street just now!
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Sep 4, 2016 05:15
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It has its comfort. You don't have to worry about wasting your life because surely one on your incarnations did something great and you'll get to experience it when you pass on.
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Sep 4, 2016 05:36
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Big Mean Jerk posted:If you're comparing it to the good episodes of TOS, then yeah, of course it isn't going to measure up. Those loving episodes are iconic for a reason. But if you're using the TNG/DS9 metric of good, then yes, there are at least 20-30 good episodes of Enterprise. All of this will happen again with Discovery, too. Circle of life.
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Sep 4, 2016 05:39
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bull3964 posted:When you die, your ghost merges with all your quantum duplicates, you become one with the collective experience. 
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Sep 4, 2016 06:44
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If Enterprise had 30 good episodes, I feel like I would have seen one of them at some point. Only Enterprise I remember at all are the bad pilot, A Night in Sickbay, the one where T'Pol gets some space virus, the alien nazi two-parter, and the (admittedly pretty fun) mirror universe one. Of course, it's possible I was one of the millions of UPN viewers who had given up on Trek by then and I'm sure there are tons of episodes I never saw or only half watched, but I did try and I feel like if I'd seen even one or two episodes that approached the quality of The Corbomite Maneuver, Balance of Terror, or Journey to Babel, I would have kept watching.
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Sep 4, 2016 10:16
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quote:UPN viewers If you're bad, you go to a place where the dead believe they're still livin' and they pray for death, but death won't come.
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Sep 4, 2016 11:37
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skasion posted:More consistently poo poo, maybe loving lol you can't count OR detect a Futurama reference. I was clearly referring to TOS, which had 79 episodes, and to "Where No Fan Has Gone Before" with Fry talking to Leonard Nimoy's (RIP) head.
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Sep 4, 2016 11:38
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Come to think of it, it's pretty sad that the Earthican government apparently didn't bother to ban the animated series.
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Sep 4, 2016 13:15
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bull3964 posted:When you die, your ghost merges with all your quantum duplicates, you become one with the collective experience. So chances are one of my duplicates has touched a booby and I'll get to remember that experience when I'm dead.
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Sep 4, 2016 13:45
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Cojawfee posted:So chances are one of my duplicates has touched a booby and I'll get to remember that experience when I'm dead. Hahaha, no. Some things do strain credulity.
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After The War posted:I need to know that there are stories featuring Sarcastic Native American Guy and Lt. Dangle from Reno 911!. I need to. BTW Sarcastic Native American Guy is actually a woman. Her name is Spring Rain on Still Water. Do what you will with this info. 
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Sep 4, 2016 17:17
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Baka-nin posted:Cool, any details, or has the iron fist of CBS got you under some kind of bind? Come to think of it, they didn't make us sign anything and they sent an agency wide email about it... NASA filmed a bunch of little group "happy 50th" group things. I'm in one of them.
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Sep 4, 2016 17:20
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I'm on season two of TOS now, and I hate Chekov. He is The Worst.
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Sep 4, 2016 18:26
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Halfway through season four of Voyager and Belana is pregnant as gently caress isn't she?
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Sep 4, 2016 19:36
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Rhyno posted:Halfway through season four of Voyager and Belana is pregnant as gently caress isn't she? If she's wearing the weird coat with the pocket full of useless looking tools then yes.
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Sep 4, 2016 19:38
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8one6 posted:If she's wearing the weird coat with the pocket full of useless looking tools then yes. And some sort of badges for some reason? I'm at the Hirogen Holodeck episode.
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Sep 4, 2016 19:41
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Rhyno posted:And some sort of badges for some reason? I'm at the Hirogen Holodeck episode. No those are the tools.
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Sep 4, 2016 19:52
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Apollodorus posted:No those are the tools. These are tools? 
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Sep 4, 2016 19:57
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Looks like a pair of magneton calipers, an isolinear probe, a modulating rectifier and a pencil. Checks out.
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Rhyno posted:These are tools? Yeah it has narrow pockets that open at the color line. Most of the tool is on the black part that you can't see easily in SD (which is why they had her wear the jacket to hide the pregnancy).
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