Fighting Games: the casuals are coming for your niche and you better be afraid

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Fereydun: May 9, 2008

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# ? Sep 5, 2016 05:27

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# ? Apr 25, 2024 06:36

WorldIndustries: Dec 21, 2004

Fereydun posted:

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omg this is the most tabs thing ever

# ? Sep 5, 2016 05:29

mycot: Oct 23, 2014; "It's okay. There are other Terminators! Just give us this one!"; Hell Gem

Fereydun posted:

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This seems extremely specific!

# ? Sep 5, 2016 05:31

Faffel: Dec 31, 2008; A bouncy little mouse!

Fereydun posted:

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# ? Sep 5, 2016 05:33

Pomp: Apr 3, 2012; by Fluffdaddy

Fereydun posted:

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# ? Sep 5, 2016 05:35

bhsman: Feb 10, 2008; by exmarx

Fereydun posted:

https://a.pomf.cat/bpsjzf.webm

I still like SFV but :golfclap:

# ? Sep 5, 2016 05:39

Commissar Ken: Dec 9, 2006; Children STILL love me, dammit!

Fereydun posted:

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The hero we deserve.

# ? Sep 5, 2016 05:49

anime was right: Jun 27, 2008; death is certain
keep yr cool

Fereydun posted:

https://a.pomf.cat/bpsjzf.webm

# ? Sep 5, 2016 05:53

General Morden: Mar 3, 2013; GOTTA HAVE THAT PAX BISONICA

i don't think anything can surpass that one tbh

# ? Sep 5, 2016 05:53

Maluco Marinero: Jan 18, 2001; Damn that's a
fine elephant.

General Morden posted:

i don't think anything can surpass that one tbh

A model/texture swap for the ages.

# ? Sep 5, 2016 05:55

anime was right: Jun 27, 2008; death is certain
keep yr cool

General Morden posted:

i don't think anything can surpass that one tbh

honestly that might be the best fg post ever made on sa

# ? Sep 5, 2016 05:55

bad metaphors: Nov 6, 2014

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RAeI0S-FQaw&t=84s

# ? Sep 5, 2016 06:02

punk rebel ecks: Dec 11, 2010; A shitty post? This calls for a dance of deduction.

anime was right posted:

honestly that might be the best fg post ever made on sa

# ? Sep 5, 2016 06:16

Zand: Jul 9, 2003; ~ i'll take you for a ride ~ ride on a meteorite ~

Goetta posted:

SFV isn't as bad as the thread here makes it out to be,

yes, yes it actually absolutely is

SFV is one of the most egregiously bad fighters in a long time. other than the complete absence of any fun in the game, it also has failed to deliver on simple things like implementing directinput support for PC, which they said they were working on over a year ago during beta. please do not buy this game and give capcom the idea that they have done a good thing (they havent)

basically, what fereydun said

# ? Sep 5, 2016 06:30

bhsman: Feb 10, 2008; by exmarx

SFV is pretty fun in spite of its issues.

# ? Sep 5, 2016 06:53

Captain Baal: Oct 23, 2010; I Failed At Anime 2022

I am on mobile and won't be on PC until Tuesday, paint me a picture of what tabs posted

# ? Sep 5, 2016 06:55

General Morden: Mar 3, 2013; GOTTA HAVE THAT PAX BISONICA

Baal posted:

I am on mobile and won't be on PC until Tuesday, paint me a picture of what tabs posted

sorry you'll just have to see for yourself in person

its brilliance can't be properly conveyed with words

# ? Sep 5, 2016 06:57

Captain Baal: Oct 23, 2010; I Failed At Anime 2022

GOD DAMMIT

# ? Sep 5, 2016 06:58

bhsman: Feb 10, 2008; by exmarx

Baal posted:

I am on mobile and won't be on PC until Tuesday, paint me a picture of what tabs posted

I tried to find a funny gif or video but it's honestly worth the wait.

EDIT:

General Morden posted:

sorry you'll just have to see for yourself in person

its brilliance can't be properly conveyed with words

EDIT2: if you really want to know it's Dante using Virgil's sword to destroy the monolith in the city from DMC4 but it's been modded to look like the box for SFV

bhsman fucked around with this message at 07:03 on Sep 5, 2016

# ? Sep 5, 2016 07:01

WeedlordGoku69: Feb 12, 2015; by Cyrano4747

Zand posted:

yes, yes it actually absolutely is

SFV is one of the most egregiously bad fighters in a long time. other than the complete absence of any fun in the game, it also has failed to deliver on simple things like implementing directinput support for PC, which they said they were working on over a year ago during beta. please do not buy this game and give capcom the idea that they have done a good thing (they havent)

basically, what fereydun said

wait, why do you need directinput? aren't the vast majority of sticks and pads nowadays XInput?

# ? Sep 5, 2016 07:04

S.J.: May 19, 2008; Just who the hell do you think we are?

LORD OF BOOTY posted:

wait, why do you need directinput? aren't the vast majority of sticks and pads nowadays XInput?

Either way, point is that fight sticks, even the officially branded SFV ones, are not plug and play with SF5.

# ? Sep 5, 2016 07:05

Remilia: Jan 4, 2013

Fereydun posted:

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# ? Sep 5, 2016 07:16

Pomp: Apr 3, 2012; by Fluffdaddy

LORD OF BOOTY posted:

wait, why do you need directinput? aren't the vast majority of sticks and pads nowadays XInput?

Only xbox and (only within the past half year, because of capcoms incompetence) madcatz ps4 sticks.

# ? Sep 5, 2016 07:21

Zand: Jul 9, 2003; ~ i'll take you for a ride ~ ride on a meteorite ~

bhsman posted:

SFV is pretty fun in spite of its issues.

translation: sfv is pretty fun because i have no context for what a fun fighting game is actually like

LORD OF BOOTY posted:

wait, why do you need directinput? aren't the vast majority of sticks and pads nowadays XInput?

ps3 and ps4 are the fg consoles, and they use direct input. even the shittiest japanese doujin fighters support directinput. the stick i use most is directinput. also they said this was a known issue back in beta 2 like a year ago and said they would add it in.

the official branded SFV controllers had to be patched so that SFV PC would support them. yes, the controllers were patched before the game.

# ? Sep 5, 2016 07:39

bhsman: Feb 10, 2008; by exmarx

Zand posted:

translation: sfv is pretty fun because i have no context for what a fun fighting game is actually like

It's fun for me to play or watch, but I understand that how I feel personally isn't the same for everyone. :buddy:

Edit: https://twitter.com/yahooesports/status/772615899023015936

bhsman fucked around with this message at 08:06 on Sep 5, 2016

# ? Sep 5, 2016 07:51

Maluco Marinero: Jan 18, 2001; Damn that's a
fine elephant.

Zand posted:

translation: sfv is pretty fun because i have no context for what a fun fighting game is actually like

ps3 and ps4 are the fg consoles, and they use direct input. even the shittiest japanese doujin fighters support directinput. the stick i use most is directinput. also they said this was a known issue back in beta 2 like a year ago and said they would add it in.

the official branded SFV controllers had to be patched so that SFV PC would support them. yes, the controllers were patched before the game.

Holy poo poo Capcom must have trouble doing software if this is a problem. You've coded a whole game, surely you can program like a whole extra control adapter. Reminds me of early Konami PC ports with hard coded references to graphics cards and things.

# ? Sep 5, 2016 07:53

SuccinctAndPunchy: Mar 29, 2013; People are supposed to get hurt by things. It's fucked up to not. It's not good for you.

i have played indie games made years ago that had proper support for DirectInput and XInput with no issues, Capcom really has gently caress all excuse on that one.

and so does every other oval office in this industry that considers only supporting XInput acceptable. gently caress you all and the horse you rode in on.

# ? Sep 5, 2016 09:11

Saoshyant: Oct 26, 2010

KOF14 fixed the underwater netcode? Did they roll GGPO when nobody was watching or it's still their own solution?

# ? Sep 5, 2016 09:13

WeedlordGoku69: Feb 12, 2015; by Cyrano4747

Zand posted:

ps3 and ps4 are the fg consoles, and they use direct input. even the shittiest japanese doujin fighters support directinput. the stick i use most is directinput. also they said this was a known issue back in beta 2 like a year ago and said they would add it in.

the official branded SFV controllers had to be patched so that SFV PC would support them. yes, the controllers were patched before the game.

SuccinctAndPunchy posted:

i have played indie games made years ago that had proper support for DirectInput and XInput with no issues, Capcom really has gently caress all excuse on that one.

and so does every other oval office in this industry that considers only supporting XInput acceptable. gently caress you all and the horse you rode in on.

i am not denying that it is really goddamn stupid of them to not support it

i'm just a little surprised it actually affects anyone. my understanding was that DS4Windows was the main way to use a ps3/4 controller with windows, and that that emulated an xinput pad. if I'm wrong though, fair enough, I just use a 360 pad with everything (which is probably part of why I am very bad at fighters :v:

) so I don't tend to pay attention to other stuff

# ? Sep 5, 2016 09:44

In Training: Jun 28, 2008

Saoshyant posted:

KOF14 fixed the underwater netcode? Did they roll GGPO when nobody was watching or it's still their own solution?

Idk what their netcode is but I was playing someone with a one bar rated connection yesterday and it somehow worked near flawlessly. They've got some miracle code in there

# ? Sep 5, 2016 13:43

Smoking Crow: Feb 14, 2012; *laughs at u*

Saoshyant posted:

KOF14 fixed the underwater netcode? Did they roll GGPO when nobody was watching or it's still their own solution?

It's still delay based, but it's pretty good

# ? Sep 5, 2016 15:31

Pomp: Apr 3, 2012; by Fluffdaddy

LORD OF BOOTY posted:

i am not denying that it is really goddamn stupid of them to not support it

i'm just a little surprised it actually affects anyone. my understanding was that DS4Windows was the main way to use a ps3/4 controller with windows, and that that emulated an xinput pad. if I'm wrong though, fair enough, I just use a 360 pad with everything (which is probably part of why I am very bad at fighters ) so I don't tend to pay attention to other stuff

The dualshock programs don't work with PlayStation fightsticks, which scared me for about 10 seconds two years ago before I found out every fg I owned supported them natively.

# ? Sep 5, 2016 16:42

Jokerpilled Drudge: Jan 27, 2010; by Pragmatica

LORD OF BOOTY posted:

i'm just a little surprised it actually affects anyone. my understanding was that DS4Windows was the main way to use a ps3/4 controller with windows, and that that emulated an xinput pad. if I'm wrong though, fair enough, I just use a 360 pad with everything (which is probably part of why I am very bad at fighters ) so I don't tend to pay attention to other stuff

Incorrect

# ? Sep 5, 2016 16:51

Zand: Jul 9, 2003; ~ i'll take you for a ride ~ ride on a meteorite ~

LORD OF BOOTY posted:

i am not denying that it is really goddamn stupid of them to not support it

i'm just a little surprised it actually affects anyone. my understanding was that DS4Windows was the main way to use a ps3/4 controller with windows, and that that emulated an xinput pad. if I'm wrong though, fair enough, I just use a 360 pad with everything (which is probably part of why I am very bad at fighters ) so I don't tend to pay attention to other stuff

with "accessibility" being a major theme of SFV, having to get third party programs to use your controller with the game is just ridiculous. its also incredibly amateurish that they have claimed to have been working on this issue for a year.

also I want to use this post as a reminder that SFV also resets all of your training mode options every time you leave training mode.

# ? Sep 5, 2016 17:16

In Training: Jun 28, 2008

KOFXIV does that too, sadly

# ? Sep 5, 2016 18:45

Pomp: Apr 3, 2012; by Fluffdaddy

It's easier to only be slightly annoyed by that when the game is otherwise complete and good

# ? Sep 5, 2016 18:50

A.o.D.: Jan 15, 2006; The Suffering of the Succotash.

Zand posted:

with "accessibility" being a major theme of SFV, having to get third party programs to use your controller with the game is just ridiculous. its also incredibly amateurish that they have claimed to have been working on this issue for a year.

also I want to use this post as a reminder that SFV also resets all of your training mode options every time you leave training mode.

A quick remider that Dantarion made DInput drivers for SFV in less than a day. These were done back in April, in case you were thinking Capcom might actually be working on a fix for any of the busted features in this game. At this point I'm convinced that the game is hosed up because they want it to be that way. gently caress this company, I'm done buying their crap.

If you're not tired of their poo poo yet you can grab those drivers here: https://github.com/dantarion/SF5DInput/releases/tag/valpha-0.0.1

# ? Sep 5, 2016 19:01