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Thanqol
Feb 15, 2012

because our character has the 'poet' trait, this update shall be told in the format of a rap battle.
They could release $10 horse armour for this game and I'd preorder it without looking.

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alex314
Nov 22, 2007

I love the "chaos is dead" endgame switch. Dwarves on normal I've lucked out with good friendly factions and weak Empire. Greenskins were weak and fell quickly. Got armies north in the last moments to save northern Dwarves, confederate and resettle. Had the best battle yet with my 2 stacks of veteran quarellers and warriors with some artillery fought a bloody stalemate against 3 chaos posterboys. Replenish, finish them and their birdy friend and then poo poo hits the fan! It turns out the rest of order factions love me and have some cool deals (vassal included) but hate each other guts! Why does my dwaven bros of Karak Zhufbar feel the need to attack Border Princes? Empire goes about my Northland vassals and I intervene, but not before standing for the Empire against Brettonia!
I love it! It's waaay better than unstoppable snowball of Rome 2 and more logical than Realm Divide of Shogun 2.

Vlex
Aug 4, 2006
I'd rather be a climbing ape than a big titty angel.



There is something so Warhammer about an event titled "An age of peace?" snowballing into a clusterfuck of backstabs and broken alliances across the board. About as much fun as the actual Chaos invasions to be honest!

Cardiac
Aug 28, 2012

Thanqol posted:

They could release $10 horse armour for this game and I'd preorder it without looking.

:same:
Also, as a point of reference the F2P game World of Tanks is currently selling a tank pack consisting of 4 premium tanks for the meagre price of 75 USD.
So, yeah, I am perfectly fine with the DLC price as is anyone with an actual salary.

Pornographic Memory
Dec 17, 2008

Cardiac posted:

:same:
Also, as a point of reference the F2P game World of Tanks is currently selling a tank pack consisting of 4 premium tanks for the meagre price of 75 USD.
So, yeah, I am perfectly fine with the DLC price as is anyone with an actual salary.

WoT's pricing is pretty amazing, once that game has people by the balls it's like they become completely oblivious to the idea of contextualizing premium tanks as DLC and comparing the prices to outside games, because they sell premium tanks that cost $50 like hotcakes, on top of selling premium currency and various boosts/items for real money.

pnutz
Jan 5, 2015

Pornographic Memory posted:

WoT's pricing is pretty amazing, once that game has people by the balls it's like they become completely oblivious to the idea of contextualizing premium tanks as DLC and comparing the prices to outside games, because they sell premium tanks that cost $50 like hotcakes, on top of selling premium currency and various boosts/items for real money.

premium time: make the game fun again!

source: someone that's thrown >$200 at wot and is looking at throwing more money at wows later this week :negative:

Endorph
Jul 22, 2009

pnutz posted:

premium time: make the game fun again!

source: someone that's thrown >$200 at wot and is looking at throwing more money at wows later this week :negative:
here's an intervention: don't

at least when you buy dlc for warhammer you only have to buy it one time, instead of having to buy a newer tank/bote in 6 months when they add better ones

1st_Panzer_Div.
May 11, 2005
Grimey Drawer

TipsyMcStagger posted:

how does AI assassinate work? I've reloaded a game about 8 times and it makes no difference on the auto-save for critical success assassination on my lord.

I don't want to encourage save scum, but after you reload, do some stuff, destroy a building, fight a battle, something. This will give you a new RNG figure. Your lord can die, it's part of the fun, deal with the fun of it :) It'll be more fun in the long run.

xthetenth
Dec 30, 2012

Mario wasn't sure if this Jeb guy was a good influence on Yoshi.

Endorph posted:

here's an intervention: don't

at least when you buy dlc for warhammer you only have to buy it one time, instead of having to buy a newer tank/bote in 6 months when they add better ones

That's literally the same model as having to buy the new hotness campaign DLC. Both the premium metal box and the campaign eventually get old.

Meme Poker Party
Sep 1, 2006

by Azathoth

Thanqol posted:

They could release $10 horse armour for this game and I'd preorder it without looking.

Endorph
Jul 22, 2009

xthetenth posted:

That's literally the same model as having to buy the new hotness campaign DLC. Both the premium metal box and the campaign eventually get old.
beastmen will never be replaced by beastmen 2.0: beastmen but better, tho. i mostly play multiplayer.

xthetenth
Dec 30, 2012

Mario wasn't sure if this Jeb guy was a good influence on Yoshi.

Endorph posted:

beastmen will never be replaced by beastmen 2.0: beastmen but better, tho. i mostly play multiplayer.

Premium tanks generally don't get replaced by that, if anything, there's a few metal boxes from partway through the games' lifespans that everyone acknowledges aren't going to get outdone.

madmac
Jun 22, 2010
There's nothing sadder than seeing the AI Empire get exterminated by the pitiful one-third stacks of phase one Chaos. Franz just can't get his poo poo together even with Volkmar joining the party. Estalia otoh...

It'll be interesting to see how the faction dynamics play out once another 4-5 races get added. Right now Orcs/Dwarves seem pretty 50/50, Beastmen never really do anything but make pests of themselves, Chaos seems to crush Empire even earlier with every patch, and Brettonia is forever getting backstabbed by Estalia.

Arc Hammer
Mar 4, 2013

Got any deathsticks?
The Age of Peace is way more fun than the Storm of Chaos because you can go about your merry rampage without dealing with bullshit attrition that only affects you.

Ammanas
Jul 17, 2005

Voltes V: "Laser swooooooooord!"
Thats why i recommend people try a 'no chaos invasion' mod. Feels like a more traditional TW game and can be a ton of fun.

xthetenth
Dec 30, 2012

Mario wasn't sure if this Jeb guy was a good influence on Yoshi.

Free company militia are so ridiculously good in the early game as Empire.

Cardiac
Aug 28, 2012

xthetenth posted:

That's literally the same model as having to buy the new hotness campaign DLC. Both the premium metal box and the campaign eventually get old.

All games get old.
At least TWW doesn't make me hate humanity for every update. After five years of WoT I am more than happy with the Dlc model of TWW.

Also hoping for Skaven next.
I looked at their army list and they seem to have the potential for an army with more war machines and artillery than the other factions.

Arc Hammer
Mar 4, 2013

Got any deathsticks?
Warpstone gunlines.

John Charity Spring
Nov 4, 2009

SCREEEEE

xthetenth posted:

Free company militia are so ridiculously good in the early game as Empire.

Agreed. They're amazing just as flanking light infantry but their vanguard deployment comes in handy sometimes too. I beat an orc stack which had a doom diver and would definitely have destroyed my garrison+lord+single militia unit if I hadn't been able to take out the artillery with the free company and then flank the archers with them afterwards.

Triskelli
Sep 27, 2011

I AM A SKELETON
WITH VERY HIGH
STANDARDS


Arcsquad12 posted:

Warpstone gunlines.

Skaven are going to be weird since their fun toys like the poison grenades and machine guns are technically upgrades for your standard units of clanrats, like Night Goblins and the fanatics. Maybe they'll be implemented halfway between say Fanatics and Irondrakes where the ratling gun is an "artillery piece" that can mostly keep up with the line infantry, and the extra thirty guys in the gun crew wade into combat with the rest.

Living Image
Apr 24, 2010

HORSE'S ASS

Free company make starting Empire a lot more versatile. They're a very good addition.

madmac posted:

It'll be interesting to see how the faction dynamics play out once another 4-5 races get added. Right now Orcs/Dwarves seem pretty 50/50, Beastmen never really do anything but make pests of themselves, Chaos seems to crush Empire even earlier with every patch, and Brettonia is forever getting backstabbed by Estalia.

I've rarely seen Estalia do much of anything, but in my Beastmen game I skipped past Tilea and pushed all the way up through the Border Princes. The Tileans followed me up, snapping up razed settlements all the way to Akendorf, and ended up being the only human faction left in the game. It was pretty cool.

Trujillo
Jul 10, 2007
They need to make the leadership penalty you take from not having any ground units cumulative because either it resets every time they land or it's not enough. I've had a few fights now that have been me wiping out the whole enemy army except for a flying Karl Franz or flying Louen who then will land, graze my units taking no damage themselves, use their mass to push out and fly away, repeat for 10 minutes and their decisive defeat turns into a draw. It's really dumb.

Dramicus
Mar 26, 2010
Grimey Drawer

Cardiac posted:

Also hoping for Skaven next.

I think its almost guaranteed that the next faction will be either Wood Elves or Bretonnia(which i think is the free race).

madmac
Jun 22, 2010
They have so far not deviated from the FLC schedule at all, which means next DLC should be a new race +new free lore/hero, almost certainly wood elves+Lore of Life or Shadow, then a Greenskin/Dwarf Lordpack+Wurrzag.

The free race is after that, so we should get Brettonia in three months, or around Nov/Dec.

The real mystery is what paid DLC gets bundled with Brettonia, if anything and what comes with the last lore of magic, since Skaven and Tomb Kings aren't really associated with Life or Shadow.

Arc Hammer
Mar 4, 2013

Got any deathsticks?
Just to prove my point about the Age of Peace being loving awesome, my current greenskin game has turned into an epic war between The Empire and the Vampire Counts where I've been sending in Waaghs from the bordering mountains to back up the zombie hordes against an ascendant Empire.

alex314
Nov 22, 2007

I'd like to see a mod that removes Everfailure and pals and launches Age of Peace on turn 50. It'd be something nice to try once a while.

Cardiac
Aug 28, 2012

madmac posted:

They have so far not deviated from the FLC schedule at all, which means next DLC should be a new race +new free lore/hero, almost certainly wood elves+Lore of Life or Shadow, then a Greenskin/Dwarf Lordpack+Wurrzag.

The free race is after that, so we should get Brettonia in three months, or around Nov/Dec.

The real mystery is what paid DLC gets bundled with Brettonia, if anything and what comes with the last lore of magic, since Skaven and Tomb Kings aren't really associated with Life or Shadow.

I know the schedule, but I rather have Skavens than Wood Elves/Brettonia.
With Skaven, GW actually managed to invent a race that rivals the Orks in crazy mayhem.

Anyway, I started my first Empire campaign and I didn't realise there were so many non-humans to fight in the early parts of the game.
Regiments of renown are great, since you end up getting units before you have reached them in the tech tree.
Is it possible for a Regiment of renowned to be wiped out? I recruited the Flagellants, who then got murdered holding down Kazrak, and now I can't recruit them anymore.

Babe Magnet
Jun 2, 2008


Stephen9001
Oct 28, 2013

Cardiac posted:

Is it possible for a Regiment of renowned to be wiped out? I recruited the Flagellants, who then got murdered holding down Kazrak, and now I can't recruit them anymore.

Usually when that happens at most you have to wait a few turns before you can recruit them again. At least, that's been my experience.

I can have moments of... eccentricity and sometimes be quite curious about things. Please forgive me if I do something foolish or rude.

Living Image
Apr 24, 2010

HORSE'S ASS

Stephen9001 posted:

Usually when that happens at most you have to wait a few turns before you can recruit them again. At least, that's been my experience.

Yeah this is how it works. Not sure how long it is but they do eventually reappear.

NewMars
Mar 10, 2013
So, I just got a 100mb download. New Patch?

The Lone Badger
Sep 24, 2007

You can only hire one unit of a Regiment, right? It doesn't seem like one unit would be enough to be able to really exploit their special ability.

Stephen9001
Oct 28, 2013

The Lone Badger posted:

You can only hire one unit of a Regiment, right? It doesn't seem like one unit would be enough to be able to really exploit their special ability.

Depends on what the ability is really. The Tempelhof Luminarks ability to use the net from the lore of light as an ability rather than a spell is really good for example, as is the chillgeist's slowdown aura that lets them catch pretty much any cavalry.

I can have moments of... eccentricity and sometimes be quite curious about things. Please forgive me if I do something foolish or rude.

Grumio
Sep 20, 2001

in culina est
Game just patched and now my coop campaign with a friend won't work- "different versions" it says. But the game version on the loading screen is exactly the same and we've turned mods off.

Anyone else have a similar problem? Any suggestions?

Flakey
Apr 30, 2009

There's no need to speak. You must only concentrate and recall all your past life. When a man thinks of the past, he becomes kinder.
Maybe both verify your install in Steam and also double check that you both definitely have all your mods disabled? I've only seen this happen when it was caused by mods, hope the new patch didn't break anything.

e: If nothing else works you can also try rolling back to the previous version, if you're feeling adventurous: https://forums.totalwar.com/discussion/183847/the-grim-the-grave-hotfix-update-06-09-2016

Flakey fucked around with this message at 12:31 on Sep 6, 2016

madmac
Jun 22, 2010

NewMars posted:

So, I just got a 100mb download. New Patch?

It's just a hotfix for broken saved games caused by the last update.

Soup du Journey
Mar 20, 2006

by FactsAreUseless
loving middenheim triggered my ocd something fierce by taking over some random bret minor. if i raze their holdings over there, middenheim and friends will be upset, but not-france won't hate me somehow, right?

Onmi
Jul 12, 2013

If someone says it one more time I'm having Florina show up as a corpse. I'm not even kidding, I was pissed off with people doing that shit back in 2010, and I'm not dealing with it now in 2016.

Doctor Schnabel posted:

loving middenheim triggered my ocd something fierce by taking over some random bret minor. if i raze their holdings over there, middenheim and friends will be upset, but not-france won't hate me somehow, right?

Yeah just raze it and release it, or keep it as a Foothold for when Bret pisses you off.

Endorph
Jul 22, 2009

The Lone Badger posted:

You can only hire one unit of a Regiment, right? It doesn't seem like one unit would be enough to be able to really exploit their special ability.
The direpack from the vampires are great. They're fast as heck and anti-large. Send them at a cavalry unit, tie them up, then have your blood knights circle around to their back. Bam, dead cavalry.

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ZearothK
Aug 25, 2008

I've lost twice, I've failed twice and I've gotten two dishonorable mentions within 7 weeks. But I keep coming back. I am The Trooper!

THUNDERDOME LOSER 2021


And the Trujillo Vs ZearothK matches are done!

Match 1
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Common theme here is that practice makes perfect.

Congrats to Trujillo, he really earned these victories, good luck on ahead on the finals!

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