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PallasAthene
Dec 6, 2010

Why, vixen, have you again set the gods by the ears in the pride and haughtiness of your heart?

Booblord Zagats posted:

On the other side of the road is the White trash containment zone that features...

I used to use that exact same phrase in Tacoma to describe the plaza that has Bass Pro shops, Goodwill, a laundromat, recreational weed shop, regular smoke shop, pizza place, and Hustler store all in the same area.

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glowstick party tonight
Oct 4, 2003

by zen death robot
what is a Hustler store?

PallasAthene
Dec 6, 2010

Why, vixen, have you again set the gods by the ears in the pride and haughtiness of your heart?
The storefront of the one there looked like it sold lifestyle gear for folks who like to read Larry Flynt's fine publication.

So porn, sex toys, and women's versions of Affliction shirts with brass knuckles that said "TALK poo poo GET HIT."

edit: (nsfw)http://hustlerhollywoodstores.com/hustler-hollywood-tacoma/

Return Of JimmyJars
Jun 24, 2006

by FactsAreUseless
Somebody brought up the oil and gas thing a few pages ago so I thought I should fill in:

According to Houston Business Journal approx 600k sq ft of unused office space has hit the market every month for the last year. This doesn't count the millions in sublease space from bigger companies stuck in long lease agreements.

I know of four 20-30 story buildings that are brand new within a mile of each other that have no occupants.


There are a whole shitload of REITs and investors who are about to get absolutely face hosed on speculative building they will never be able to fill unless we go back to $150/barrel oil.

Carrion Luggage
Nov 24, 2006

Return Of JimmyJars posted:

Somebody brought up the oil and gas thing a few pages ago so I thought I should fill in:

According to Houston Business Journal approx 600k sq ft of unused office space has hit the market every month for the last year. This doesn't count the millions in sublease space from bigger companies stuck in long lease agreements.

I know of four 20-30 story buildings that are brand new within a mile of each other that have no occupants.


There are a whole shitload of REITs and investors who are about to get absolutely face hosed on speculative building they will never be able to fill unless we go back to $150/barrel oil.

if we go back to $150 ill have to start robbing banks again

Islam is the Lite Rock FM
Jul 27, 2007

by exmarx

Return Of JimmyJars posted:

Somebody brought up the oil and gas thing a few pages ago so I thought I should fill in:

According to Houston Business Journal approx 600k sq ft of unused office space has hit the market every month for the last year. This doesn't count the millions in sublease space from bigger companies stuck in long lease agreements.

I know of four 20-30 story buildings that are brand new within a mile of each other that have no occupants.


There are a whole shitload of REITs and investors who are about to get absolutely face hosed on speculative building they will never be able to fill unless we go back to $150/barrel oil.

I know I'm cold and heartless saying this but gently caress em'. Fossil fuels must die.

Cliff Racer
Mar 24, 2007

by Lowtax
Well, Houston is still a desirable city to live in. If cost of business gets low enough that space will be filled by some other kind of white collar work. People who built it might never see the money they wanted though.

blugu64
Jul 17, 2006

Do you realize that fluoridation is the most monstrously conceived and dangerous communist plot we have ever had to face?

Cliff Racer posted:

Houston is a desirable city to live in

:lol: forever and ever

Ellie Crabcakes
Feb 1, 2008

Stop emailing my boyfriend Gay Crungus

mrwuss posted:

if we go back to $150 ill have to start robbing banks again
There are legal ways to get sperm.

Tiny Brontosaurus
Aug 1, 2013

by Lowtax

Cliff Racer posted:

Well, Houston is still a desirable city to live in.

FlamingLiberal
Jan 18, 2009

Would you like to play a game?



:stare:

mod saas
May 4, 2004

Grimey Drawer
even if that's just a bad angle and there's a beautiful downtown just out of frame, the fact that angle exists at all is :smith:

KiteAuraan
Aug 5, 2014

JER GEDDA FERDA RADDA ARA!



I am from loving Phoenix and Houston fills even I with an existential dread and horror.

unpacked robinhood
Feb 18, 2013

by Fluffdaddy
"Houston, you are a problem"

90s Solo Cup
Feb 22, 2011

To understand the cup
He must become the cup




Houston is a parking deck masquerading as a major city.

In other words, the perfect American city.

Iron Prince
Aug 28, 2005
Buglord
I am from Houston. Do I need to make another thread about it? You guys don't seem to be getting it still.

CubanMissile
Apr 22, 2003

Of Hulks and Spider-Men
Houston is a big dirty shopping mall and heaven help you if you ever get told to go to the wrong airport and try to get to the right one in time.

jenny jones fan
Dec 24, 2007

Cliff Racer posted:

Well, Houston is still a desirable city to live in. If cost of business gets low enough that space will be filled by some other kind of white collar work. People who built it might never see the money they wanted though.

NYC has quite possibly the highest cost of business yet there are zero empty buildings/an incredibly high employment rate.

If the cost of business meant anything, Kansas would be booming and not the flaming shitshow that it currently is.

jenny jones fan
Dec 24, 2007
I don't want to bring up Wal-Mart chat but there definitely is some credence to the argument that they get shipped shittier versions of things other places get. I was just reading an article on that peanut company that knowingly shipped deadly peanuts to people, and years earlier they had shipped peanut butter candies that far exceeded some FDA limit to Wal-Mart stores only, instead of throwing them away. lol

Krispy Wafer
Jul 26, 2002

I shouted out "Free the exposed 67"
But they stood on my hair and told me I was fat

Grimey Drawer

Tubesock Holocaust posted:

Houston is a parking deck masquerading as a major city.

In other words, the perfect American city.

Parking decks would be an improvement. Jeez, people maximize your space.

Maybe there's a stadium just off frame? I know we still have an inexplicable number of regular parking lots near our baseball field that could've been consolidated into a nice deck.

jenny jones fan
Dec 24, 2007
"It is with profound regret that we must report that ITT Educational Services, Inc. will discontinue academic operations at all of its ITT Technical Institutes permanently after approximately 50 years of continuous service. With what we believe is a complete disregard by the U.S. Department of Education for due process to the company, hundreds of thousands of current students and alumni and more than 8,000 employees will be negatively affected.”


lol

Iron Crowned
May 6, 2003

by Hand Knit

cuck cuck im gay posted:

"It is with profound regret that we must report that ITT Educational Services, Inc. will discontinue academic operations at all of its ITT Technical Institutes permanently after approximately 50 years of continuous service. With what we believe is a complete disregard by the U.S. Department of Education for due process to the company, hundreds of thousands of current students and alumni and more than 8,000 employees will be negatively affected.”


lol

I'm guessing that was the email sent to the AP when everyone showed up to locked doors this morning?

Professor Shark
May 22, 2012

cuck cuck im gay posted:

If the cost of business meant anything, Kansas would be booming and not the flaming shitshow that it currently is.

I made a Kansas! thread a while back after reading an article about their terrible schools and it taught me that no matter how bad things seem, they can always be worse

Lime Tonics
Nov 7, 2015

by FactsAreUseless

Iron Crowned posted:

I'm guessing that was the email sent to the AP when everyone showed up to locked doors this morning?

Here is the full statement,

http://www.ittesi.com/2016-09-06-ITT-Educational-Services-Inc-to-Cease-Operations-at-all-ITT-Technical-Institutes-Following-Federal-Actions

How long till the website goes down? I'm guessing a week at best.

edit :

FlamingLiberal
Jan 18, 2009

Would you like to play a game?



The AP was saying 40,000 students would be affected by this, seems a little off from the 8,000 they are claiming

eric
Apr 27, 2004
Lipstick Apathy

FlamingLiberal posted:

The AP was saying 40,000 students would be affected by this, seems a little off from the 8,000 they are claiming

8,000 employees. Looking forward to the rest of the for profit colleges dying as the education bubble continues to deflate.

Spazzle
Jul 5, 2003


The EDF keeping up the good work.

Jastiger
Oct 11, 2008

by FactsAreUseless

cuck cuck im gay posted:

"It is with profound regret that we must report that ITT Educational Services, Inc. will discontinue academic operations at all of its ITT Technical Institutes permanently after approximately 50 years of continuous service. With what we believe is a complete disregard by the U.S. Department of Education for due process to the company, hundreds of thousands of current students and alumni and more than 8,000 employees will be negatively affected.”


lol

Targeting Private PRisons and for profit colleges. Obama's second term looking fuckin good.

jenny jones fan
Dec 24, 2007

Iron Crowned posted:

I'm guessing that was the email sent to the AP when everyone showed up to locked doors this morning?

The one sent to students was even better. Over the weekend they told students "we thought about how important labor day is so we're extending the holiday to include Tuesday, so don't come in on Tuesday" lol

Really sucks for people who were nearing the end of their degree as I am assuming no schools accept ITT credits.

I am very glad these scummy schools are being reprimanded but lets not kid ourselves. A good portion of the population will decry this as "Obama's war on businesses".


Professor Shark posted:

I made a Kansas! thread a while back after reading an article about their terrible schools and it taught me that no matter how bad things seem, they can always be worse

They call it Brownbackistan for a reason.

Jastiger
Oct 11, 2008

by FactsAreUseless

cuck cuck im gay posted:

NYC has quite possibly the highest cost of business yet there are zero empty buildings/an incredibly high employment rate.

If the cost of business meant anything, Kansas would be booming and not the flaming shitshow that it currently is.

Yes yes Iowa blah blah, but Iowa has had the highest rax rate of all surrounding states except Minnesota and Illinois, yet Iowa boasts far more corporate hqs than all bordering states except Illinois and Minnesota. Its almost as if tax rates isnt the main driver of business or something. Theres a reason Des Moines has a huge insurance hub and higher taxes vs Topeka or Sioux Falls.

gently caress Brownback and his state is definitely circling the drain.

Moridin920
Nov 15, 2007

by FactsAreUseless
Tax rates matter but infrastructure and job market and all kinds of other things matter, too. Sometimes more; doesn't matter what the tax is if the required infrastructure to operate the business doesn't exist - fiber wire for tech companies, for example. It's not coincidence that Silicon Valley and Oregon were/are the centers of the tech boom.

Kansas, for example, slashed their education budgets so much to justify their tax cuts that they lost tons of factory jobs when the owners of an auto factory (forgot the company) said 'these people literally can't follow printed English instructions - we had to make picture instructions and they still couldn't do that.'

Brownback is a retard and Kansas sucks.

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pants in my pants
Aug 18, 2009

by Smythe
People also probably want to work for a company in a good state, like Illinois or Minnesota, than some flyover fuckhole like Iowa or Kansas or Nebraska.

Iron Crowned
May 6, 2003

by Hand Knit

two forty posted:

People also probably want to work for a company in a good state, like Illinois or Minnesota, than some flyover fuckhole like Iowa or Kansas or Nebraska.

Kansas is really cheap, and they have better strip clubs than Ohio :shrug:

Moridin920
Nov 15, 2007

by FactsAreUseless
if the employment choice is between Kansas or Ohio I think I'd rather just be homeless

C-SPAN Caller
Apr 21, 2010



Moridin920 posted:

Tax rates matter but infrastructure and job market and all kinds of other things matter, too. Sometimes more; doesn't matter what the tax is if the required infrastructure to operate the business doesn't exist - fiber wire for tech companies, for example. It's not coincidence that Silicon Valley and Oregon were/are the centers of the tech boom.

Kansas, for example, slashed their education budgets so much to justify their tax cuts that they lost tons of factory jobs when the owners of an auto factory (forgot the company) said 'these people literally can't follow printed English instructions - we had to make picture instructions and they still couldn't do that.'

Brownback is a retard and Kansas sucks.

Incidentally Nebraska has a much higher tax rate and far better jobs and is starting to experience a tech boom because they're actually building fiber and are in the middle of the country

also nebraska has far better education and no charter schools

HUH

Jastiger
Oct 11, 2008

by FactsAreUseless

Moridin920 posted:

if the employment choice is between Kansas or Ohio I think I'd rather just be homeless

Happy Medium is available. Just click the link in my snazzy new avatar.

C-SPAN Caller
Apr 21, 2010



two forty posted:

People also probably want to work for a company in a good state, like Illinois or Minnesota, than some flyover fuckhole like Iowa or Kansas or Nebraska.

lol if you think Nebraska and Iowa are as hosed in the rear end as Kansas

Moridin920
Nov 15, 2007

by FactsAreUseless
Kansas really is on some death spiral because they've destroyed their economy but they think they're actually fixing it and all the voters keep voting for more because all they really give a poo poo about is idiot religious issues like abortion and teaching creationism in schools.

Watch this documentary: https://vimeo.com/107525994 then realize it is from 2009 and poo poo has only gotten worse.



there's only like 2 redeeming people in that whole thing and one of them is just a fat farmer dude going 'i really dunno why people can't just live and let live all these religious folks have taken over and gotten rabid and nuts and my Kansas is gone :( '

Proud Christian Mom
Dec 20, 2006
READING COMPREHENSION IS HARD
Your dream is jobs for middle/upper class white collar workers except those people usually have a choice in their employment and if they have children they arent moving to states with absolutely loving abysmal education, like Kansas. If they do theyre going to want another 25k a year or something to send their children to private school and suddenly all those cost of living savings you business was counting on disappear because you're paying through the nose to get the people you want

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Krispy Wafer
Jul 26, 2002

I shouted out "Free the exposed 67"
But they stood on my hair and told me I was fat

Grimey Drawer
When did ITT become a 'bad' school? I mean, it was never a good one, but it's been in business for half a century. As much as everyone hates for-profit education, the very nature of their business model means there has to be some value to the degrees. It's the quality/convenience/cost model where you can only pick 2. But you still get 2 out of 3.

Did all that sweet government backed debt make them toss their already suspect standards in an attempt to maximize student rolls?

Moridin920 posted:

Tax rates matter but infrastructure and job market and all kinds of other things matter, too. Sometimes more; doesn't matter what the tax is if the required infrastructure to operate the business doesn't exist - fiber wire for tech companies, for example. It's not coincidence that Silicon Valley and Oregon were/are the centers of the tech boom.

Kansas, for example, slashed their education budgets so much to justify their tax cuts that they lost tons of factory jobs when the owners of an auto factory (forgot the company) said 'these people literally can't follow printed English instructions - we had to make picture instructions and they still couldn't do that.'

Brownback is a retard and Kansas sucks.

Kansas hasn't been cutting it's education budgets long enough for companies to see stupider workers. But yeah, tax cuts will only get you so far.

Some industries live and die by tax breaks. Studios look for excuses to film in Georgia because of it's tax credits, but they also import their most highly trained workers. That's not going to work for most businesses.

Also Kansas was hosed regardless. Kansas with cheap taxes and MadMax infrastructure actually sounds better than Kanas with normal taxes and regular infrastructure. At least one is a little more exciting.

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