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RedHotKick posted:I really like Lost Worlds aesthetic even if it is cribbing entirely off Mario. I don't think I prefer it to Unleashed though, those levels were absolutely gorgeous and I want a return to that, which might be happening with 2017? I agree, and more importantly, the Lost World aesthetic would let them make massive 3D levels with a lot less effort than the over-detailed Unleashed Day art style, which has always been a major issue for them. They should stick to it just so they can make expansive runs.
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MikeJF posted:I agree, and more importantly, the Lost World aesthetic would let them make massive 3D levels with a lot less effort than the over-detailed Unleashed Day art style, which has always been a major issue for them. They should stick to it just so they can make expansive runs. Yeah, a simplified art style would help speed up development and fit well with the characters.
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Sep 6, 2016 10:17
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Generations is so, so nice looking yeah. I wouldn't mind playing a 3d Sonic as per Generations or Unleashed in Lost World's environments though. It's actually a very nice looking game, at least on PC.
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RedHotKick posted:I really like Lost Worlds aesthetic even if it is cribbing entirely off Mario. one of my first thoughts upon playing mario galaxy (especially during a yoshi level) was man this is how they should've moved into 3d for sonic. Dabir posted:Those goalposts aren't too heavy, are they? and just to explain how that aint goal post moving - it's like how the new doom is a good game but it's certainly not a good doom game. it plays pretty much nothing like the original dooms (and certainly lacks the same aesthetic) which doesn't make it a bad game but isn't what someone who wants an update to doom/doom 2 is looking for.
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Groovelord Neato posted:and just to explain how that aint goal post moving - it's like how the new doom is a good game but it's certainly not a good doom game. it plays pretty much nothing like the original dooms (and certainly lacks the same aesthetic) which doesn't make it a bad game but isn't what someone who wants an update to doom/doom 2 is looking for. aaaaand you lost me
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The 2D games are an evolutionary dead end and I don't really care if the 3D games do or don't feel "authentic" as long as they're good.
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Sonic Generations is a great F-Zero game.
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PaletteSwappedNinja posted:The 2D games are an evolutionary dead end and I don't really care if the 3D games do or don't feel "authentic" as long as they're good. You lost me too. Someone in this thread had better start making sense and soon!
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No matter what the new Sonic Project ends up being, I hope it brings back Chao Garden (it won't, but I can dream)
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Ah, the infamous "no true Sonic" fallacy
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Augus posted:You lost me too. 2D Sonic is fine but it's never going to get that one new game that transforms it into a wholly better experience the way Mario did from SMB to SMB3, for instance. "Classic" 2D Sonic has already given us everything it has to give.
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If a sonic game is 3D it will be garbage without Chao hope this helps Sega!
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i think 3d sonic games are garbage even with chao
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Shindragon posted:Not to hijack the thread a little, I noticed they haven't done much. What happen? somebody set us up the bomb 
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PaletteSwappedNinja posted:"Classic" 2D Sonic has already given us everything it has to give. So someone isn't feeling the sonic mania, I take it?
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It's kinda silly to say that Sonic 2, CD, and 3+Knuckles can't be improved upon two decades later. They absolutely can. And getting something a bit on the safe side feels a lot better to me right now than waiting for SEGA to push the boundaries of 3D Sonic at a loving snail's pace. Generations came out 5 years ago and we've pretty much gone nowhere. Waiting for that big transformative experience that finally makes 3D Sonic good is getting pretty tiring.
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Yorkshire Tea posted:Sonic Generations is a great F-Zero game. The best 3D Sonic game I've ever played is Trackmania.
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This made me irrationally angry the first time I saw it.
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VikingofRock posted:In Sonic Mania, has it been confirmed whether the villain will be referred to as Robotnik or Eggman? This is very important. They have been fused into a single being...called Eggrobo.
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I want playable Big the Cat DLC for Sonic Mania
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El Mido posted:i think 3d sonic games are garbage even with chao hah but that would mean you don't think SA2 battle is the great, i don't understand.
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Augus posted:aaaaand you lost me it plays nothing like a doom game (except for being an fps). it's a bunch of arena battles where the enemies drop pick ups.
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If you want a game that plays exactly like Doom 2 you are more than catered to by the still thriving wad screen. The new Doom invoked enough of the original's speed and non-reliance on hitscan bullshit to be the best single player fps of this decade.
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Groovelord Neato posted:it plays nothing like a doom game (except for being an fps). it's a bunch of arena battles where the enemies drop pick ups. Yeah, it really needed some awful Sandy Peterson maps to make it super pro good.
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Just watched this Polygon demo of Sonic Mania and it looks like Sonic 3's giant rings are back. Or something. The person playing dicked around and looked for secrets, when they pushed a rock in Green Hill they fell into a chamber with a giant wireframe ring. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fEfKC4sxTG8 It's not clear whether it's like that because it's deactivated for the demo build or because they didn't have 50 rings or something. I hope this is the emerald method, I prefer it to the "have 50 rings and hit checkpoint/finish stage" one. E: They found one in Studiopolis too with over 50 rings and it was still wireframe so it was probably deactivated for the demo build, or there's some other esoteric criterion. Linear Zoetrope fucked around with this message at 10:12 on Sep 7, 2016 |
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Dabir posted:Vector! This. Vector looks so good in Chaotix, more lithe and bouncy then in Heroes, where he just looks kind of boxy.
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Mr Phillby posted:The new Doom invoked enough of the original's speed and non-reliance on hitscan bullshit to be the best single player fps of this decade. wolfenstein was better but yeah it's probably second best.
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Elfgames posted:hah but that would mean you don't think SA2 battle is the great, i don't understand. lol if you play 3d sonic after the credits.
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Groovelord Neato posted:it plays nothing like a doom game (except for being an fps). it's a bunch of arena battles where the enemies drop pick ups. You're silly.
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Discendo Vox posted:
A joke so nice, I get to use it in both the mega man and sonic threads.
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Discendo Vox posted:A joke so nice, I get to use it in both the mega man and sonic threads. I don't get it.
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elf help book posted:I don't get it. That's the fun part- I apparently massively miscalculated and it requires much too much obscure knowledge of both franchises, so it doesn't work for either audience!  Megaman has its own lengthy history of conflict over the names of characters. Names in the classic series were all styled "Thing Man". The X series started getting weird, starting with a convention of "Thing" + "Animal name". This hit its peak with a game where the translators renamed all the bosses to be references to Guns'n'Roses. Independently, Mega Man X1 had a boss named "Boomer Kuwanger" who is actually some sort of beetle, a fact that confused everyone back in the day-weird translation again. What kind of animal is a "Kuwanger"? Later series, like the one from which the robot in the image come from, are more and more incomprehensible.The robot pictured spits and creates eggs as its attacks. Its actual name is "Popla Cocapetri", which sounds like a kind of food-borne illness. Also it let me write "robowang". I guess what I'm saying is however bad sonic fans have it, don't forget what Mega Man fans deal with. Discendo Vox fucked around with this message at 16:25 on Sep 7, 2016 |
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at least we can stand in solidarity at having to put up with your posting
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Dabir posted:at least we can stand in solidarity at having to put up with your posting There, too, count your blessings- I have 5 pages of posts in the mega man thread.
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Every post I make is sonic related
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beep by grandpa posted:Every post I make is sonic related After analyzing your entire post history, I conclude this is a true fact.
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Jsor posted:It's not clear whether it's like that because it's deactivated for the demo build or because they didn't have 50 rings or something. I hope this is the emerald method, I prefer it to the "have 50 rings and hit checkpoint/finish stage" one. But I basically like everything sonic 3 changed from sonic 2 so I'm biased
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One thing I like about sonic 3 were the sheer amount of special stages in s3&k. Was the only other 2D sanic to have non-chaos emerald/ring special stages just for lives/funsies Knuckles' Chaotix??
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I know this is heresy but I'd be okay with lives being in Sonic Mania if it has unique special stages just for rings & lives 
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