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Mr Dog posted:the more ppl customize they linux the less interesting poo poo they do with it just lmao if the default shell is not sh
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carry on then posted:just lmao if the default shell is not sh isn't sh actually bash on linux?
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prefect posted:isn't sh actually bash on linux? not always, it depends on the linux
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prefect posted:isn't sh actually bash on linux? it's often a symlink, but if you invoke bash as sh, you get an sh-emulation mode.
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Loving Africa Chaps posted:Someone itf had a really nice zsh skin plz advise http://git.grml.org/?p=grml-etc-core.git;a=blob_plain;f=etc/zsh/zshrc;hb=HEAD
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Sep 11, 2016 01:12
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prefect posted:isn't sh actually bash on linux? In Ubuntu it's Dash, which is a lovely version of Bash.
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ratbert90 posted:In Ubuntu it's Dash, which is a lovely version of Bash. dash is the debian fork of the almquist shell, a bsd-flavored variant of sh (nobody actually uses ubuntu though so this matters approximately never)
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:dash is the debian fork of the almquist shell, a bsd-flavored variant of sh Quite interesting! It's still terrible because it's almost like bash but not quite so bash scripts might not work properly.
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:(nobody actually uses ubuntu though so this matters approximately never) Wait what? In my experience Ubuntu is far and away the most popular linux
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VikingofRock posted:Wait what? In my experience Ubuntu is far and away the most popular linux all zeros are the same though
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Sep 11, 2016 06:11
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ratbert90 posted:Quite interesting! It's still terrible because it's almost like bash but not quite so bash scripts might not work properly. you should never, ever, write a bash script for any purpose, so this is irrelevant
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Sep 11, 2016 09:23
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hobbesmaster posted:all zeros are the same though -- someone who isn't familiar with ieee 754
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Sep 11, 2016 09:24
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Mr Dog posted:the more ppl customize they linux the less interesting poo poo they do with it could not agree more a riced up zsh is the shell equivalent of an anime wallpaper
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Soricidus posted:you should never, ever, write a bash script for any purpose, so this is irrelevant
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Sep 11, 2016 11:15
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welp i travelled back in time
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Sep 11, 2016 11:41
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ratbert90 posted:In Ubuntu it's Dash, which is a lovely version of Bash. dash is only used for init scripts and stuff, not for users shells thankfully
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Sep 11, 2016 11:44
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Tankakern posted:could not agree more who cares
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Sep 11, 2016 11:49
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spankmeister posted:dash is only used for init scripts and stuff, not for users shells thankfully In 12.04 it's the default shell for users.
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Sep 11, 2016 14:45
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ratbert90 posted:In 12.04 it's the default shell for users. 
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Sep 11, 2016 14:46
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VikingofRock posted:Wait what? In my experience Ubuntu is far and away the most popular linux get a real job, i guess? centos/rhel dominates the united states and much of the rest of the world sles owns europe ubuntu is an also-ran that attracts a few weird startups and that's it
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Sep 11, 2016 15:07
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:sles owns europe
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spankmeister posted:what? where exactly? germany and france e.g. it is the default choice on for groupe bull victims^wcustomers
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Sep 11, 2016 15:14
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Suse has a mainstay in Germany since the 90s. First Distro where you could buy boxed copies in bookshops. With a nice 300 page manual.
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:germany and france ok so germany and france, biggest markets sure but it doesn't "own europe"
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spankmeister posted:ok so germany and france, biggest markets sure but it doesn't "own europe" well i assume it probably owns the rest of europe too, but i'm not a european. i have never had the privilege of being exposed to linux market conditions in, say, slovenia i can tell you the only part of yurop i have seen rhel or ubuntu in use is the uk but that's hardly surprising, is it? (does the uk even count as part of yurop anymore?)
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Sep 11, 2016 15:17
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mind sharing where you pull these stats from? unless it's your rear end
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mike12345 posted:mind sharing where you pull these stats from? unless it's your rear end it's my rear end
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here's an easier way to think about it though. global revenues:
ubuntu is very popular with kids who post on forums but that's about it
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SLES definitely has a decent market share in Europe but it really depends on the country which is more popular. In northwest Europe, sans Germany, it's all RHEL and some Ubuntu on desktops or w/e. Europe is not a country.
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ok so it's all rhel then
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ironically i currently work in a group that, for mysterious reasons, has set a firm requirement for ubuntu, such that everyone throughout the company has bend over backwards to support our weird and terrible poo poo every time i mention we're on ubuntu at a conference most people look at me like i grew a third arm some of them just look at me like i farted. (i'm not sure why my unfortunate technology choices should inspire such disgust tho)
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startups use ubuntu because theres no reason to pay for linux when you don't have a product they should be using centos though
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MALE SHOEGAZE posted:startups use ubuntu because theres no reason to pay for linux when you don't have a product a year or two ago i wrote a very long post to explain exactly why ubuntu is bad and i am not gonna re-phrase that to be more specific to this thread instead, here's my quote bomb Notorious b.s.d. posted:The problem with Ubuntu isn't a matter of taste. It's not that I don't like Unity, or I have bad feelings about Shuttleworth, or that the logo doesn't agree with me. It's much more fundamental: The Ubuntu model for development is broken.
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:a year or two ago i wrote a very long post to explain exactly why ubuntu is bad and i am not gonna re-phrase that to be more specific to this thread i reference this post every time the topic distros comes up in my professional life, fyi
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:ironically i currently work in a group that, for mysterious reasons, has set a firm requirement for ubuntu, such that everyone throughout the company has bend over backwards to support our weird and terrible poo poo I have a friend that has become a multi-millionaire making a time sheet web site company that now has over 50 employees. He thinks RHEL is the devil and uses Ubuntu. It's the most baffling thing and I point out his hypocrisy every time I he brings it up. His eyes just glaze over and he changes the subject.
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RHEL is really good and if you ara a poor CentOS is really good. Everyrhing else is garbage tier
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spankmeister posted:RHEL is really good and if you ara a poor CentOS is really good. RHEL in the streets. Fedora in the sheets.
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ratbert90 posted:RHEL in the streets.
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MALE SHOEGAZE posted:i reference this post every time the topic distros comes up in my professional life, fyi flattering
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MALE SHOEGAZE posted:i reference this post every time the topic distros comes up in my professional life, fyi Same. Ubuntu is dumpster fire garbage and I am ashamed I used it for a few years.
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