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END ME SCOOB posted:I'll defend the first, but that second, whoof. oh yea the first is miles better than the second, I'm just an 'apologist' in the sense that I think it was ok rather than a complete dumpster fire. I think the first was legitimately a very solid Spider-Man origin and unironically liked Garfield for the role. Though the new guy seems good too, looking forward to Homecoming.
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# ? Sep 11, 2016 06:37 |
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I actually think the second one is better than the first. Simply because the entire first half is the retelling of Peter's origin that goes on far too long, the you have Uncle Ben's stupid stupid death scene, and the Richard Parker stuff that goes no where. Not that the second one isn't terrible in its own right.
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# ? Sep 11, 2016 06:42 |
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One of the best things to come from ASM 2 (And the Sony hack) are those studio notes from Kevin Feige, which it looks like they promptly ignored: quote:There are too many story lines and we need to choose which ones we are focusing on and lift out the other ones, ie; could reduce father arc to just Roosevelt?
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# ? Sep 11, 2016 17:16 |
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Happy 9/11. Spider-man needs to feel more directly responsible for preventing the planes from crashing.
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# ? Sep 11, 2016 17:38 |
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Speaking of crashing planes, the finale prompted me to watch Con Air (to my recollection, the first time I've ever watched it; certainly the first time it's ever been on and I was paying attention) With a few tall glasses of water it really is a tremendously good movie, as good as Face/Off even. Malkovich is loving incredible ("Welcome to Con Air" and he nails it). Everyone is loving incredible. Even Colm "I swear I dinnae have an accent" Meaney. e: I love how they find a copy of The Anarchist Cookbook in Cyrus' cell, because gently caress you it's 1997 precision fucked around with this message at 00:20 on Sep 12, 2016 |
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I'll be honest. WHen it comes to the glut of Super Hero films, only the Disney/Marvel ones have any interest for me. Their the only ones that have been consistently good. Also, I keep hearing how the idea of the "Cinematic Universe" Is dead because it's peak has come and gone. The only movie universe that ever worked were the Avenger Movies. Every other attempt at it has been a huge failure because no one else is willing to put in the work Marvel Studios has done in building it up.
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# ? Sep 12, 2016 02:26 |
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DrVenkman posted:One of the best things to come from ASM 2 (And the Sony hack) are those studio notes from Kevin Feige, which it looks like they promptly ignored: "Kevin Feige? What's that guy no about making superhero movies?" - Someone who's probably unemployed right now.
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# ? Sep 12, 2016 04:20 |
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I'm totally with them on the idea of this whole universe of films has gotten pretty ridiculous, and the need for every one of them to be interconnected kind of hurts them due to the need to set up future events and wink at comic fans. Admittedly I still watch all of them because they aren't terrible movies (Marvel, not DC) and we're all pretty invested at this point, it would just be nice though if we could get a modern comic movie that didn't waste time on the origin (every person in the world knows Batman at this point, its straight up filler to show the Waynes' deaths) and had a decent story from start to finish without all the easter eggs and whatnot. I actually didn't realize ASM2 had that many easter eggs besides the wall of the villain costumes at the end. Hearing Andrew sigh at each one was hilarious.
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# ? Sep 12, 2016 04:26 |
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I love the last 'don't show new yorkers looting'. Like this last little 'come on guys can you be cool?' on top of all this good fix suggestion.
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# ? Sep 12, 2016 05:25 |
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precision posted:Speaking of crashing planes, the finale prompted me to watch Con Air (to my recollection, the first time I've ever watched it; certainly the first time it's ever been on and I was paying attention) Even without enhancements, I still feel it's a capital G Good movie. At least on the same level as The Rock or Face/Off. In that you need to know what kind of movie you're getting yourself into because it's going to commit 200% and you better be on board for that.
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# ? Sep 12, 2016 05:38 |
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They show the Wayne deaths every time because it's recontextualized for each individual Batman. BvS's interpretation was absolutely not filler.
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# ? Sep 12, 2016 06:04 |
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Detective No. 27 posted:They show the Wayne deaths every time because it's recontextualized for each individual Batman. BvS's interpretation was absolutely not filler.
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# ? Sep 12, 2016 06:48 |
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Detective No. 27 posted:They show the Wayne deaths every time because it's recontextualized for each individual Batman. BvS's interpretation was absolutely not filler. Now I want the Rashomon style version of Wayne parents' death where it turns out that Thomas and Martha are horrible people who were beating up a homeless Joe Chill who asked them for money and, when Thomas pulled a gun to finish him off, Chill fought him and accidentally shot both of them.
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# ? Sep 12, 2016 07:50 |
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Young Freud posted:Now I want the Rashomon style version of Wayne parents' death where it turns out that Thomas and Martha are horrible people who were beating up a homeless Joe Chill who asked them for money and, when Thomas pulled a gun to finish him off, Chill fought him and accidentally shot both of them. That would certainly punch up Batman's "the world only makes sense if you force it to" line.
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# ? Sep 12, 2016 14:40 |
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BigRed0427 posted:I'll be honest. WHen it comes to the glut of Super Hero films, only the Disney/Marvel ones have any interest for me. Their the only ones that have been consistently good. I don't think it's dead, it's just that Marvel was the only one that lucked into pulling it off. Marvel started with characters most people knew the name of, but little else. The origin stories are fairly fresh to people who aren't comic book people, most people know how Batman, and Superman came about, and we really don't need them rehashed every 15 years. They also had a semi-self awareness that allowed them to have fun without being a comedy. On top of that, all of them that I've seen have been fairly self contained. You can drop in and out of them without missing much more than some minor offhanded references. They're essentially perfect for how I always see them, killing time on a Saturday.
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Detective No. 27 posted:They show the Wayne deaths every time because it's recontextualized for each individual Batman. BvS's interpretation was absolutely not filler. People are always saying that they should just do the hero's origin over the opening credits, which is what they did in BvS. The problem is they then showed chunks of the scene two or so more times throughout the movie, and considering the movie is overstuffed as it is, it starts to get old. That and it tied into the "Martha!" bit everybody hates (I like the idea in theory, it was just handled very badly).
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# ? Sep 12, 2016 15:13 |
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I think the Marvel CU took off because, and bear with me here, the movies in it are actually good (even the exceptions like Thor are not that bad). Like, I really genuinely enjoyed Suicide Squad, way more than I thought I would, but it doesn't hold a candle to Civil War or even Ant-Man.
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# ? Sep 12, 2016 17:49 |
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The MCU varies from decent blockbusters(Guardians of the Galaxy, Iron Man) to insulting trash(Winter Soldier, Thor 2)
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# ? Sep 12, 2016 19:42 |
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The Vosgian Beast posted:The MCU varies from decent blockbusters(Guardians of the Galaxy, Iron Man) to insulting trash(Winter Soldier, Thor 2) Yeah, the only one on my list of "must see" is definitely GotG2, but I may see Dr. Strange if I have a boring Saturday to fill.
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# ? Sep 12, 2016 19:55 |
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Iron Crowned posted:Yeah, the only one on my list of "must see" is definitely GotG2, but I may see Dr. Strange if I have a boring Saturday to fill. Dr. Strange is looking better and better really. I'm hyped. The Vosgian Beast posted:The MCU varies from decent blockbusters(Guardians of the Galaxy, Iron Man) to insulting trash(Winter Soldier, Thor 2) I mean I know, different opinions and all that, but drat.
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# ? Sep 12, 2016 20:05 |
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precision posted:
In my experience the people who reacted really negatively to Winter Soldier were the people who thought that one side of the central conflict re: registration and oversight was obviously and objectively correct and were annoyed that either their side wasn't portrayed well enough or that the other side was portrayed too well or that it wasted too much time on a conflict with such an "obvious" answer.
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# ? Sep 12, 2016 20:15 |
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Guy Mann posted:In my experience the people who reacted really negatively to Winter Soldier were the people who thought that one side of the central conflict re: registration and oversight was obviously and objectively correct and were annoyed that either their side wasn't portrayed well enough or that the other side was portrayed too well or that it wasted too much time on a conflict with such an "obvious" answer. Are you talking about Civil War and not Winter Soldier?
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# ? Sep 12, 2016 20:17 |
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precision posted:Dr. Strange is looking better and better really. I'm hyped. It's not ASM2 levels of incompetent but this scene sums up what's wrong with it for me. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E486XjhYHh8 You have a Nazi scientist preserved in tape decks in a US bunker which is a creepy and cool image, and then he exposits some of the dumbest poo poo I've ever heard. The occasional flashes of a decent conspiracy film are all instantly choked by comic book bullshit and what sounds like a suburban 12 year old's summary of the problems with the war on terror. And not a very smart 12 year old either. So very, very clunky, hamhanded, and monotonous. Especially because someone, somewhere, made the call that all blockbusters have to be over two hours now for some goddamn reason.
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# ? Sep 12, 2016 20:40 |
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You know, as savvy as the WHM guys are, I'm surprised they didn't cotton on to two things in the Con Air episode: - The "flamboyant" character. Yes, he's a cliche to such a degree that I legitimately didn't realize he was a man until the scene with the dress. But key here is that at no point is he dogged on for his proclivities. When he slow-mo runs into the camp with the dress on, he's greeted by unironic catcalls and the film itself is telling us "this person is attractive, and it doesn't matter what their gender is". For 1997 that's pretty good. - Steve Buscemi's field trip. It seemed obvious to the point of ham-handed that this was meant to show that Green is aware he is a monster, not happy about it, and delighted to find someone that treats him as a normal human being (even if he knows he isn't). He gets the innocent acceptance he has always secretly craved, so he keeps the Ken doll (a reminder that even he can be "normal" sometimes) and very clearly doesn't kill her. The shot of her waving goodbye wasn't a pickup, it was a stinger - "You people watching this movie, you think this smart analytical nerd is the worst monster on this plane, well guess what? He's not." This is all foreshadowed and enhanced by his early scenes - the first time he talks, he psychoanalyzes (probably correctly) another Con, and Cage and Bubba's reaction is "That guy must be hosed up", because intelligence is bad. This is a Hollywood blockbuster full of the most broad cliches imaginable, so of course the one "nerdy intellectual" is presented as the "ultimate monster". Not only all that, but the film seems to actually endorse "politically correct" values, rather than celebrating redneck awfulness. I mean this is the whole key to Cage's character, who is the most redneck thing on film but still knows you don't rape women, you don't kill innocents, and you walk it like you talk it. I'm this close to making a scene-by-scene watchthrough thread for this movie. It's just got so much going on.
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# ? Sep 12, 2016 21:51 |
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They didn't even bring up the scene where the marshals are checking Cyrus' cell and John Cusack dodges a hilarious CG door being exploded at him
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# ? Sep 13, 2016 03:21 |
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I tweeted them about this but I really loving hope they eventually release audio of Suburban Commando. I've called it in for LRM at least once and I can't justify ~$25 for one podcast episode that'll only be available for 30 days.
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# ? Sep 13, 2016 09:20 |
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I listened to the ASM2 episode and I swear there was a point where Andrew called him "Jamie Lee Foxx."
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# ? Sep 13, 2016 19:32 |
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This is one of my favorite recent podcasts and I've been plowing through the back catalog. However I really don't like how in the newer episodes it takes FOREVER to get to the actual meat of the podcasts. They got that long rear end intro song, then they plug an upcoming gig or special. I get why they do it, but it's like 6 or 7 minutes of intro the last few episodes. What's your guys favorite episodes? The Ms Doubtfire episode is what got me hooked, and the rerun of silver bullet reminded me of one of my favorite lines "Cripple this, cripple that, up on cripple creek"
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# ? Sep 14, 2016 05:49 |
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TheDon01 posted:However I really don't like how in the newer episodes it takes FOREVER to get to the actual meat of the podcasts. They got that long rear end intro song, then they plug an upcoming gig or special. I get why they do it, but it's like 6 or 7 minutes of intro the last few episodes. If I had a gun to my head and couldn't fast forward to the intro music, I'd be grumpy about it, but it's trivial to skip ahead regardless of what platform you're using to listen to it. Favorite episode now is probably Seventh Son, if only for the constant goofy exclamations of, "He built it outta scraps! In a cave!"
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# ? Sep 14, 2016 06:09 |
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Tiny Brontosaurus posted:I got the 8. I love their star trek impressions. Is there an easy way to move episodes from Patreon to my podcasts app? I don't want to have to download mp3s and put them in the music app like it's pioneer times or something. Patreon just implemented patron-specific RSS feeds so hopefully the WHM crew can get that working.
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# ? Sep 14, 2016 13:05 |
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If their promos were boilerplate it'd be one thing but you get some good gags out of them. I think Sadjak being killed by Jack Ruby was born from one and it's one of my hardest laughs.
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# ? Sep 14, 2016 14:02 |
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I'm partial to the discussion on neckbeards becoming "Neck! Where are you!"
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# ? Sep 14, 2016 14:39 |
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weekly font posted:If their promos were boilerplate it'd be one thing but you get some good gags out of them. I think Sadjak being killed by Jack Ruby was born from one and it's one of my hardest laughs. Which episode was this? I've gotta hear it.
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# ? Sep 14, 2016 14:42 |
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weekly font posted:If their promos were boilerplate it'd be one thing but you get some good gags out of them. I think Sadjak being killed by Jack Ruby was born from one and it's one of my hardest laughs. Some of their Harry's ads have gotten stale but on the whole their intros are pretty solid. One step down from the genius that is Bill Burr's "Club W" reads.
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# ? Sep 14, 2016 15:46 |
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Gonz posted:Which episode was this? I've gotta hear it. Sabotage.
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# ? Sep 14, 2016 16:25 |
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Just listened to the Substitute 2 episode. Was anyone else disappointed that they referred to Guru as a middling rapper and didn't seem to realize that he died a few years ago?
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# ? Sep 14, 2016 16:45 |
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JackBobby posted:Just listened to the Substitute 2 episode. Was anyone else disappointed that they referred to Guru as a middling rapper and didn't seem to realize that he died a few years ago? Wait, so the "Don't worry about X" curse works posthumously?
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# ? Sep 14, 2016 17:16 |
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JackBobby posted:Just listened to the Substitute 2 episode. Was anyone else disappointed that they referred to Guru as a middling rapper and didn't seem to realize that he died a few years ago? I didn't, mainly because I have no idea who Guru is, and my Googling finger doesn't need the workout right now.
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# ? Sep 14, 2016 17:34 |
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JackBobby posted:Just listened to the Substitute 2 episode. Was anyone else disappointed that they referred to Guru as a middling rapper and didn't seem to realize that he died a few years ago? You gotta give them credit for even knowing who guru is considering they are the whitest men in America.
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# ? Sep 14, 2016 17:59 |
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JT Smiley posted:You gotta give them credit for even knowing who guru is considering they are the whitest men in America. Not too much credit, as Gangstarr is from Brooklyn.
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