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Karate Bastard
Jul 31, 2007

Soiled Meat
Classy. Though they missed the "Make Me Forget", which you get by mixing: Booze.

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Mr Ice Cream Glove
Apr 22, 2007


value-brand cereal
May 2, 2008


I'm curious if the name is to lure in jackasses to teach them that identifying as a asian fetishizing term is a horrible idea, or if they're unironically missing the point. :psyduck: How do you get that far, but not realize anything?

Len
Jan 21, 2008

Pouches, bandages, shoulderpad, cyber-eye...

Bitchin'!


Wedemeyer posted:

I'm curious if the name is to lure in jackasses to teach them that identifying as a asian fetishizing term is a horrible idea, or if they're unironically missing the point. :psyduck: How do you get that far, but not realize anything?

Probably not. Nerds are the worst. I'm phone posting but I have a picture of a discussion panel from Gencon called "Cosplay is not consent" and it was a mediated discussion about how nerds need to back off and respect sexily dressed men/women.

mind the walrus
Sep 22, 2006

What gets me about the whole "cosplay is not consent" thing is that if you've ever actually been to a Con and seen all the sexy-dressed women in revealing clothes, you'd have to be a borderline sociopath to not immediately see them as human beings in a costume.

It's one thing to get aroused from third party footage like a photo or video on your computer the same way you would porn-- there's a dehumanizing barrier that lets fantasy take over--but once you're in person? I mean come the gently caress on. It's not even arousing. Ok at best you have a hard time looking at a girl's face when there's cleavage and an rear end in a thong on display, that's the most leash you can get to be awkward. How on earth do you fail at being socialized that badly?

Some Pinko Commie
Jun 9, 2009

CNC! Easy as 1️⃣2️⃣3️⃣!

mind the walrus posted:

What gets me about the whole "cosplay is not consent" thing is that if you've ever actually been to a Con and seen all the sexy-dressed women in revealing clothes, you'd have to be a borderline sociopath to not immediately see them as human beings in a costume.

It's one thing to get aroused from third party footage like a photo or video on your computer the same way you would porn-- there's a dehumanizing barrier that lets fantasy take over--but once you're in person? I mean come the gently caress on. It's not even arousing. How on earth do you fail at being socialized that badly?

You're talking about people that go to conventions centered around dressing up as fictional characters. The whole socialized angle goes out the window pretty quickly.

mind the walrus
Sep 22, 2006

A lot of cosplayers are really chill actually. It's usually the grognard fans that are the problem.

Paladinus
Jan 11, 2014

heyHEYYYY!!!
Anime is bad.

Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

sucks to be right

Len posted:

Probably not. Nerds are the worst. I'm phone posting but I have a picture of a discussion panel from Gencon called "Cosplay is not consent" and it was a mediated discussion about how nerds need to back off and respect sexily dressed men/women.

They put up posters now at pretty much every event that involves cosplay. The posters seem to get bigger and bigger every year.

jmistajay
Aug 28, 2012

Mango chutney salsa!

Wade Wilson posted:

You're talking about people that go to conventions centered around dressing up as fictional characters. The whole socialized angle goes out the window pretty quickly.

Join us in the cosplay creation thread! Building stuff and then wearing that stuff is fun!

Also, don't touch other people without their permission, it's pretty easy to stay within the bounds of acceptable social behavior!

Sinners Sandwich
Jan 4, 2012

Give me your friend's BURGERS and SANDWICHES, I'll put out the fire.

Snowglobe of Doom posted:

They put up posters now at pretty much every event that involves cosplay. The posters seem to get bigger and bigger every year.


What a lovely hat

spog
Aug 7, 2004

It's your own bloody fault.

Snowglobe of Doom posted:

They put up posters now at pretty much every event that involves cosplay. The posters seem to get bigger and bigger every year.


What poster?

w00tmonger
Mar 9, 2011

F-F-FRIDAY NIGHT MOTHERFUCKERS

Snowglobe of Doom posted:

They put up posters now at pretty much every event that involves cosplay. The posters seem to get bigger and bigger every year.


Knowing a few people like this it is definitely a 2 way street sometimes

Hackers film 1995
Nov 4, 2009

Hack the planet!

Snowglobe of Doom posted:

They put up posters now at pretty much every event that involves cosplay. The posters seem to get bigger and bigger every year.


lol at the dudes in the background.

John Lee
Mar 2, 2013

A time traveling adventure everyone can enjoy

Wedemeyer posted:

I'm curious if the name is to lure in jackasses to teach them that identifying as a asian fetishizing term is a horrible idea, or if they're unironically missing the point. :psyduck: How do you get that far, but not realize anything?

Since when is weeaboo an 'asian fetishizing' term?

Data Graham
Dec 28, 2009

📈📊🍪😋



Well it's a term about Asian fetishizing, close enough right?

The MSJ
May 17, 2010

I think it's just another name for "anime fans" now.

Sponge Baathist
Jan 30, 2010

by FactsAreUseless

ryonguy
Jun 27, 2013

w00tmonger posted:

Knowing a few people like this it is definitely a 2 way street sometimes

"Don't grope people."

"Look, I agree, but, devil's advocate here, [endless :spergin:]"

Say Nothing
Mar 5, 2013

by FactsAreUseless

Ellie Crabcakes
Feb 1, 2008

Stop emailing my boyfriend Gay Crungus

mind the walrus posted:

What gets me about the whole "cosplay is not consent" thing is that if you've ever actually been to a Con and seen all the sexy-dressed women in revealing clothes, you'd have to be a borderline sociopath to not immediately see them as human beings in a costume.

It's one thing to get aroused from third party footage like a photo or video on your computer the same way you would porn-- there's a dehumanizing barrier that lets fantasy take over--but once you're in person? I mean come the gently caress on. It's not even arousing. Ok at best you have a hard time looking at a girl's face when there's cleavage and an rear end in a thong on display, that's the most leash you can get to be awkward. How on earth do you fail at being socialized that badly?
Never underestimate the ability of people to fail to grasp basic concepts.

bawk
Mar 31, 2013

The signs aren't just for creepy dudes, either. There's a weird lack of social awareness/skills with some doing the cosplaying where groping other cosplayers as a "joke" for being your favorite character, related to your cosplay, etc. is considered appropriate to them. A friend of mine who cosplays anime characters has a lot of stories of girls in cosplays from the show her cosplay is from trying to cop a feel or poke her chest because their characters were best friends on the show and did something similar.

The creepy dude stories are usually "dude asked to take photo with me, touched my rear end instead of putting his hand on my waist" or "dude took a surprise picture without asking" while the cosplayer stories are more like "girl photobombed a picture by coming up behind me and full-on hand-bra'd my boobs" or "asked to take picture with me, did funny pose from anime where the joke is she pokes the character's boobs because they're big"

computer angel
Sep 9, 2008

Make it a double.

John Big Booty posted:

Never underestimate the ability of people to fail to grasp basic concepts.



Huh, never considered curling my eyelashes with a straightening iron but here we are.

SulfurMonoxideCute
Feb 9, 2008

I was under direct orders not to die
🐵❌💀

John Big Booty posted:

Never underestimate the ability of people to fail to grasp basic concepts.



But what if my house's hair needs straightening :confused:

Megillah Gorilla
Sep 22, 2003

If only all of life's problems could be solved by smoking a professor of ancient evil texts.



Bread Liar

thecluckmeme posted:

"dude took a surprise picture without asking"

I was in a public place and a person took my photo, the monster!


I agree with all the other scenarios - not touching people without their permission should go without saying - but if you're standing in a public place then people can take all the photos they loving want.

Cacafuego
Jul 22, 2007

cosplaying is the new 'they were asking for it'

Proteus Jones
Feb 28, 2013



Gorilla Salad posted:

I was in a public place and a person took my photo, the monster!


I agree with all the other scenarios - not touching people without their permission should go without saying - but if you're standing in a public place then people can take all the photos they loving want.

Heh. You do that at DefCon and guaranteed there will be someone who will lose their poo poo. Every year, I see one person standing like a deer in the headlights being yelled at by a "hacker" in full-on 2-year-old-has-a-tantrum mode, because he took a picture of his friend while the hallway is full of people.

Choco1980
Feb 22, 2013

I fell in love with a Video Nasty

w00tmonger posted:

Knowing a few people like this it is definitely a 2 way street sometimes

I'd like an elaboration on this please. I'm honestly not sure what it means.

bawk
Mar 31, 2013

Gorilla Salad posted:

I was in a public place and a person took my photo, the monster!


I agree with all the other scenarios - not touching people without their permission should go without saying - but if you're standing in a public place then people can take all the photos they loving want.

When the photo thing is a problem it's usually in the same vein as if somebody would walk up to a girl in a bikini on the beach and snap a photo of them, only instead of a bikini it's a Cammie cosplay or something. Still creepy.

BrigadierSensible
Feb 16, 2012

I've got a pocket full of cheese🧀, and a garden full of trees🌴.

Yeah. It's not cool to take photos of strangers without asking first.

I mean, it's rude to do it to a random on the street, so it's also rude do it to the weirdo dressed as Sephiroth.

w00tmonger
Mar 9, 2011

F-F-FRIDAY NIGHT MOTHERFUCKERS

Choco1980 posted:

I'd like an elaboration on this please. I'm honestly not sure what it means.

Not to be a bad-touch apologist or anything, but for all the wierd gropey nerds there are definitely socially unaware cosplayers who dress in poo poo that would never get a pass under any other circumstance.

Your taking a bunch of socially weird neckbeards and cranking things up to 11.

Opposite ends of the same spectrum. For the same reason that it would be weird to show up to a convention in pasties and a G-string

life is a joke
Mar 7, 2016

w00tmonger posted:

Not to be a bad-touch apologist or anything, but for all the wierd gropey nerds there are definitely socially unaware cosplayers who dress in poo poo that would never get a pass under any other circumstance.

youre disgusting

bawk
Mar 31, 2013

w00tmonger posted:

Not to be a bad-touch apologist or anything, but for all the wierd gropey nerds there are definitely socially unaware cosplayers who dress in poo poo that would never get a pass under any other circumstance.

Your taking a bunch of socially weird neckbeards and cranking things up to 11.

Opposite ends of the same spectrum. For the same reason that it would be weird to show up to a convention in pasties and a G-string

Uhhhhhhhhhhh

Let's stop talking about this now

Field Mousepad
Mar 21, 2010
BAE
Eh he has a point though. You should be able to dress up or cosplay or whatever as a character and have fun but let's be realistic here, if you're practically naked in public you're going to get some unwanted attention. That's just something that is going to happen regardless of your gender.

BrigadierSensible
Feb 16, 2012

I've got a pocket full of cheese🧀, and a garden full of trees🌴.

Ok Fella posted:

Eh he has a point though. You should be able to dress up or cosplay or whatever as a character and have fun but let's be realistic here, if you're practically naked in public you're going to get some unwanted attention. That's just something that is going to happen regardless of your gender.

So, the organizers understand this sort of UNWANTED attention will happen, and use signs to inform the socially retarded would-be gropers to not do it.

I don't see what is so bad about a place putting up a "Hey, don't grope people or invade their space" sign in a place where people don't want to be groped of have their space invaded.

Rumda
Nov 4, 2009

Moth Lesbian Comrade

Ok Fella posted:

Eh he has a point though. You should be able to dress up or cosplay or whatever as a character and have fun but let's be realistic here, if you're practically naked in public you're going to get some unwanted attention. That's just something that is going to happen regardless of your gender.

So they are asking for it?

Field Mousepad
Mar 21, 2010
BAE
Do you honestly think people that behave like that give a poo poo about a sign?

I'm not defending it trust me. It's gross and shouldn't happen but realistically it will.

Choco1980
Feb 22, 2013

I fell in love with a Video Nasty
I'm sorry I asked for clarification. This conversation is quickly turning gross regardless of how right or wrong you are.

Field Mousepad
Mar 21, 2010
BAE

Rumda posted:

So they are asking for it?

No not at all. Nice try though.

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Rumda
Nov 4, 2009

Moth Lesbian Comrade

Ok Fella posted:

Do you honestly think people that behave like that give a poo poo about a sign?

I'm not defending it trust me. It's gross and shouldn't happen but realistically it will.

So if they don't want to be groped they should dress so slutty? Because men can't help it?

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